Can you imagine if "Are foreigners completely immune to cold?" or some such nonsense became a thing on the Korean interwebs? In fact, some of those things get turned into regular issues like "Can foreigners not handle spicy food?" And guess what? People LOATHE that stuff. Yet the same kinds of people who complain about that, turn around and do the same kinds of generalizations. Incredible.
the thing is with demartian is that he doesn't understand banter. 9 out of 10 times on here, it is just what we call banter about Korea. the thing is, demartian likes to talk about 'banter' when it suits him, and he has his idea of what 'banter' is, but he has zero idea about what it really is. as soon as he sees a bit of banter about Korea, he goes red in the face and then bashes his keyboard, defending any slight against Koreans.
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on April 03, 2019, 07:20:58 AMthe thing is with demartian is that he doesn't understand banter. 9 out of 10 times on here, it is just what we call banter about Korea. the thing is, demartian likes to talk about 'banter' when it suits him, and he has his idea of what 'banter' is, but he has zero idea about what it really is. as soon as he sees a bit of banter about Korea, he goes red in the face and then bashes his keyboard, defending any slight against Koreans. Very important point in understanding the mind of Martin.
Quote from: zola on April 03, 2019, 07:52:23 AMQuote from: Ronnie Omelettes on April 03, 2019, 07:20:58 AMthe thing is with demartian is that he doesn't understand banter. 9 out of 10 times on here, it is just what we call banter about Korea. the thing is, demartian likes to talk about 'banter' when it suits him, and he has his idea of what 'banter' is, but he has zero idea about what it really is. as soon as he sees a bit of banter about Korea, he goes red in the face and then bashes his keyboard, defending any slight against Koreans. Very important point in understanding the mind of Martin.Um, who gives a flying f*** about understanding his mind?
as soon as he sees a bit of banter about Korea, he goes red in the face and then bashes his keyboard, defending any slight against Koreans. it's his inbred nationalism.
you'd have thought that someone who ruined Daves
the OP's first three words on this thread are 'semi serious question' finishing off with 'You know you've always wanted to do it too!'. to me, that's just a banter thread, as in have you ever had that thing where you really wanted to do something about about something that was annoying you. thing is, the OP is in Korea, and has described something that almost all of use have encountered here, even if we wouldn't think about reacting like that. it's a harmless internet thread. it's not racist, it's just a thread. it's just his ultra-sensitivity that needs to change and to stop taking himself so seriously.
In my remaining time in Korea I hope to explore the depths of the man, Martin. I want to truly know him. Perhaps even in the biblical sense.
There's a difference between generalising about people on the internet or in conversation and letting those ideas dictate the way you behave to individuals. No one minds if Koreans think foreigners can't handle spicy food or talk about it on the internet, it's only when they tell foreigners to their face they can't, that it begins to grate a bit.
Yes, I'm sure he'd claim this was just banter. QuoteNormally the condescending arrogant way British people use the term 'proper' is really grating. (Seriously, what are you guys? The lords of the f*cking Earth who get to dictate what is and isn't proper? We showed what is and isn't 'proper' in 1776)
Normally the condescending arrogant way British people use the term 'proper' is really grating. (Seriously, what are you guys? The lords of the f*cking Earth who get to dictate what is and isn't proper? We showed what is and isn't 'proper' in 1776)
Yes, I'm sure he'd claim this was just banter. QuoteNormally the condescending arrogant way British people use the term 'proper' is really grating. (Seriously, what are you guys? The lords of the f*cking Earth who get to dictate what is and isn't proper? We showed what is and isn't 'proper' in 1776)Uh, you left out the part where I said "I'll allow it" which adds some context to the whole thing and makes it clear it's part of a joke. Hence the 'Normally' part..
WRONG. That's your confirmation bias. There's lots that gets said about Koreans or Korea that I don't respond to you. It's just your mind doesn't register the times I DON'T respond, only when I do, so it interprets that as "as soon as he sees..."
Dude, you're the one that needs to chill.
QuoteNormally the condescending arrogant way British people use the term 'proper' is really grating. (Seriously, what are you guys? The lords of the f*cking Earth who get to dictate what is and isn't proper? We showed what is and isn't 'proper' in 1776)
And we still haven't gotten to the issue of when are a Korean's actions due to "culture" and when is it because of who they are as an individual.
If we hear examples of the same behaviour over and over again from lots of different people then I think it's fair to start thinking about culture instead of the individual. I mentioned shoving on the subway because stories of that are so prolific in Korea. Surely you can't believe that it's purely down to who the "shover" is as an individual? Every single time?
Quote from: alexisalex on April 03, 2019, 09:21:57 AMIf we hear examples of the same behaviour over and over again from lots of different people then I think it's fair to start thinking about culture instead of the individual. I mentioned shoving on the subway because stories of that are so prolific in Korea. Surely you can't believe that it's purely down to who the "shover" is as an individual? Every single time?So every time you get bumped or pushed its because of culture? Does that apply to every other "negative" behavior in Korea? If someone has a car accident is that because of Korean "culture"? What about the people who don't shove? Is that because of Korean culture? And is this same level of scrutiny being applied to foreigners in Korea? If I see some American or British person acting like a knob, is that because of American or British culture? If you make a mistake preparing your lessons is that because of your culture? Would you do the same thing to people of a Muslim or Jewish or Hispanic background?If not, then that's prejudice.
So normally you're prejudiced against British people, except when they talk about beer? Or were you joking about that as well? You see, sometimes it's difficult to tell.
cool banter. so we're condescending and arrogant. so what? people who take exception and get het up about condescending remarks are usually the ones who have some sort of inferiority complex.
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on Yesterday at 11:05:27 AMQuotethe statistics are there. go look for them. i don't need to. Statistics without context are just statistics.Statistics will tell you that the murder rate is different in France vs. Spain. They don't necessarily tell you why or whether that is due to culture. You are making an unproven assumption- That the statistical differences prove a cultural explanation or are an explanation for a single incident.bbbbut muh stutistics!https://blogs.worldbank.org/transport/want-dramatic-road-safety-results-look-south-koreastudies and statistics can show lots of things. im sure we all know about the correlation between ice cream sales and homicide rates...
Quotethe statistics are there. go look for them. i don't need to. Statistics without context are just statistics.Statistics will tell you that the murder rate is different in France vs. Spain. They don't necessarily tell you why or whether that is due to culture. You are making an unproven assumption- That the statistical differences prove a cultural explanation or are an explanation for a single incident.
the statistics are there. go look for them. i don't need to.
