April 05, 2019, 04:16:51 PM


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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2019, 01:01:01 PM »
The University of Birmingham was excellent. Pretty tough though.  I managed to just get a first.

Thanks for your reply. Yeah, I've heard about/looked into that school, I'm considering it. Assuming you are a non-UK citizen (I'm from the states), was the process long and drawn out or fairly easygoing? Thanks again.

I'm from the Uk but still had to pay the full tuition as I wasn't a resident.  The course was around two and half years. It was tough, the dissertation was probably the most challenging thing I have ever done. I did it on task based learning and which tasks produce which aspects of language production.

There is a lot of reading involved. However, it is a very well respected MA to have.

I've heard quite a bit about this program, even from reddit, I'll definitely keep my eye on this program. I will probably try to apply next year. I heard they pretty much give out a "glorified reading list" and I've even found some examples online. If you have a list of some of those publications, I would gladly appreciate it, just want to see what I'm getting into and prepare myself for the actual program (I know the list may change a bit from year to year, but just want to get an idea). If you can't or don't want to then that is fine, I understand. Thanks for the for regardless.

I did this five years ago so don't have any of the material. I do remember that after the first couple of modules I was going straight to the essay questions and reading around the ones I thought I would answer. There is an essay bank on the uni's site you can see sample essays on various topics.

Just getting a first means I only got 72%. Some of the others on the course managed to get high 80s and some were even published. Just getting a first is far from gloating.
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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2019, 01:04:08 PM »
Could I read your dissertation? I'm teaching TBA/GBA.

if you don't want it to be out there pubicly, plz email me at [email protected]
I throw away those mentor accounts anyway at the end of the year. :azn:

I've sent you my second draft and I can't find the final one I submitted, it is around 20,000 words though.
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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 03:52:35 AM »
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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 09:01:52 AM »
Here is a link to the essay bank.

https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/schools/edacs/departments/englishlanguage/research/resources/essays/index.aspx
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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 09:33:43 AM »
American College of Education

https://explore.ace.edu/masters/master-teaching-english-learners

Thanks for the info, I will check this program as well.

I've also heard some good things about ACE. They are fairly cheap, although they don't allow you to use FASFA (that's how they keep it so cheap). My friend finished the program and said it was fairly easy, and they also have a few options when it comes to Masters in Education, specifically ESL.

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« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 10:37:44 AM »
American College of Education

https://explore.ace.edu/masters/master-teaching-english-learners

Thanks for the info, I will check this program as well.

I've also heard some good things about ACE. They are fairly cheap, although they don't allow you to use FASFA (that's how they keep it so cheap). My friend finished the program and said it was fairly easy, and they also have a few options when it comes to Masters in Education, specifically ESL.
Website looks pretty legit. $8000 course fee certainly isn't bad.

Can anyone comment on the eligibility of online qualifications ? Are they universally recognized? What are people with advanced degrees in ESL doing these days? Heading to the Middle East?

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« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 11:19:52 AM »
American College of Education

https://explore.ace.edu/masters/master-teaching-english-learners

Thanks for the info, I will check this program as well.

I've also heard some good things about ACE. They are fairly cheap, although they don't allow you to use FASFA (that's how they keep it so cheap). My friend finished the program and said it was fairly easy, and they also have a few options when it comes to Masters in Education, specifically ESL.
Website looks pretty legit. $8000 course fee certainly isn't bad.

Can anyone comment on the eligibility of online qualifications ? Are they universally recognized? What are people with advanced degrees in ESL doing these days? Heading to the Middle East?

A lot of middle east countries don't accept online Masters, don't know which ones for sure. Besides which it isn't the cash cow it used to be. There was a job on here the other day in Saudi offering 2600 dollars a month

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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 11:58:28 AM »
The Birmingham program seems good--but it was so tough, with huge readings and that dissertation, that I dropped out and moved back to the US for a "brick and mortar" MA, which was a breeze by comparison to Bham.

Currently my wife is doing an MA TESOL with the University of Michigan Dearborn. Fantastic program. Expensive, but everything is online, including all materials, with a very good interface. Assessments are not overly difficult. If you're looking for a decent name MA that you can do from here, this might be the answer.

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« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 12:09:15 PM »
American College of Education

https://explore.ace.edu/masters/master-teaching-english-learners

Thanks for the info, I will check this program as well.

I've also heard some good things about ACE. They are fairly cheap, although they don't allow you to use FASFA (that's how they keep it so cheap). My friend finished the program and said it was fairly easy, and they also have a few options when it comes to Masters in Education, specifically ESL.
Website looks pretty legit. $8000 course fee certainly isn't bad.

Can anyone comment on the eligibility of online qualifications ? Are they universally recognized? What are people with advanced degrees in ESL doing these days? Heading to the Middle East?

My friend is a certified teacher, so it just helped her get a pay raise (in America). There are plenty of people in Korea who have online Master's degrees that are accepted to teach at universities. I guess it would vary by each country, but as long as it's notarized and legit, I can't see them not accepting it. Most universities don't put "online" on the diploma so it would be really difficult for them to know if you did it online unless you tell them or they look it up.

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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 12:44:10 PM »
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There are plenty of people in Korea who have online Master's degrees that are accepted to teach at universities.
Are there? Hmm, an assertion lacking evidence. I think that sounds more like wishful thinking than reality, but if you have some documentation to share...?
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Most universities don't put "online" on the diploma so it would be really difficult for them to know if you did it online unless you tell them or they look it up.
I think people on this forum are pretty naive about how employers check the background of their applicants. Do you actually think it is 'really difficult' to determine if a degree is likely to have been done online? Have you heard of Google? Virtually all online MATESOL degrees come from a relative handful of universities. Online MATESOLs advertise heavily as well. It's obvious.

It's like people who do TeacherReady or TeachNow who think 'my license is just as good as any other American license, how will the schools know?' Perhaps because you have zero experience teaching in FL or DC (or anywhere in the US!) yet have a FL or DC license? My University of Nottingham degree from Ningbo is the same as a Nottingham degree from Nottingham...of course it is. No one will ever know. Right.

If you take a course from a known online MATESOL factory, I mean program, you can just assume that anyone you apply to will know it was online. You will probably lose out on better jobs, yes. Do a real program at a real school or deal with the consequences of cheaping out.
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Website looks pretty legit. $8000 course fee certainly isn't bad.
That investment in a Web designer is already paying off, guys!
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Can anyone comment on the eligibility of online qualifications ? Are they universally recognized?
You will not get the best jobs with them. You might get a better job than you have now, though.

If you want an actually good teaching job, don't teach ESL.

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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 01:37:05 PM »
I know lots of people who found university teaching jobs after doing the Birmingham MA program. While the MA was done through distance learning Birmingham offer the exact same course at the physical university. There is no difference between the MA I have and one done on the campus.
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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 08:13:26 PM »
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Re: good MA TESOL program?
« Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 08:27:25 PM »
I know lots of people who found university teaching jobs after doing the Birmingham MA program. While the MA was done through distance learning Birmingham offer the exact same course at the physical university. There is no difference between the MA I have and one done on the campus.

I doubt Observer was lumping Bham in with the online degree mills. I know two people who did the MA with dissertation; both have taught at good universities in Seoul for years.

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« Reply #33 on: Today at 01:01:09 AM »
My MA was done online.
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