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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7880 on: May 02, 2018, 02:37:17 pm »
Yeah, I'm not trolling here. I genuinely think you're paranoid and interpret random things as an attack on women. It's unfortunate that you take that attitude to work.

Not called Neil.

No, you're not ready to make that claim, yet, and I'm not going to give you an opportunity to. Everyone else has already made it very clear that they know what you're all about, so it's pointless to clap back at your gaslighting. You are what you are.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7881 on: May 02, 2018, 02:38:38 pm »
I hate how anyone who says anything that the OP doesn't like is a troll.

What happened to this world?

Why is everyone a troll all of a sudden?

Why is cracking a joke or disagreeing with someone's opinion trolling?

Add in the fact that the way Americans pronounce troll/trolling it really does my ****** head in.

*no I'm not trolling.  :cry:

Trolling  :blank: :cry:

American pronunciation is like nails on a chalkboard for me sometimes.

Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7882 on: May 02, 2018, 02:40:39 pm »
I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7883 on: May 02, 2018, 02:43:23 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7884 on: May 02, 2018, 02:50:15 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?


That'd be my guess as well.  Though I feel it's more logical to pronounce "troll" in the same manner as "roll" so as not to confuse with trawling.  Whatever floats ya'lls boats. 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7885 on: May 02, 2018, 02:52:25 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7886 on: May 02, 2018, 02:53:28 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?


That'd be my guess as well.  Though I feel it's more logical to pronounce "troll" in the same manner as "roll" so as not to confuse with trawling.  Whatever floats ya'lls boats.

Well we do that too....but our pronunciation of roll is also better different.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7887 on: May 02, 2018, 02:54:37 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?


That'd be my guess as well.  Though I feel it's more logical to pronounce "troll" in the same manner as "roll" so as not to confuse with trawling.  Whatever floats ya'lls boats.

Well we do that too....but our pronunciation of roll is also better different.


Oh god I just listened to your pronunciation of TRAWL...it does sound like our troll.  :laugh:



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7888 on: May 02, 2018, 03:03:30 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7889 on: May 02, 2018, 03:15:07 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7890 on: May 02, 2018, 03:17:35 pm »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7891 on: May 02, 2018, 03:22:21 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D

Sorry. It's become one of my pet peeves over the years, I suppose, so I probably read too much in to it sometimes. Condescension from Brits, that is. Whether it's about American English, still using the Imperial measuring system, or our... uh... eating habits, I've just grown tired of people looking down their noses at us. Tired enough that even when it's done in jest, I let it get to me, apparently.

I actually used to really want to visit the UK again (I lived in Scotland when I was very young, my earliest memories are there), but then the internet came along and exposed me to all the things they think and have to say about us, and I'm just about cured of that desire.  :laugh:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7892 on: May 02, 2018, 03:32:20 pm »
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I actually used to really want to visit the UK again (I lived in Scotland when I was very young, my earliest memories are there), but then the internet came along and exposed me to all the things they think and have to say about us, and I'm just about cured of that desire.  :laugh:

Yeah I put off my trip to the States because of my less than perfect teeth.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7893 on: May 02, 2018, 03:33:45 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D

Sorry. It's become one of my pet peeves over the years, I suppose, so I probably read too much in to it sometimes. Condescension from Brits, that is. Whether it's about American English, still using the Imperial measuring system, or our... uh... eating habits, I've just grown tired of people looking down their noses at us. Tired enough that even when it's done in jest, I let it get to me, apparently.

I actually used to really want to visit the UK again (I lived in Scotland when I was very young, my earliest memories are there), but then the internet came along and exposed me to all the things they think and have to say about us, and I'm just about cured of that desire.  :laugh:

It could be that they were trying to be funny. We can be awkward to resort to "banter" which sometimes comes across a lot worse than we intend.

I don't think many Brits truly care about pronunciation differences or word differences, apart from a few... :laugh:
You're one of the biggest countries in the world and so you're a pretty easy target.   ;D

What to Brits say about your eating habits? I've never heard that one. 

Talking of built up resentment though...I do hate it when I have a school/teacher force the American pronunciations on me (I haven't had this for years thankfully but I know many British teachers do) and the students. I understand that is the language used here, however I don't feel that the kids should be told that the American way is the only *correct* way.
 If it is, why do they hire from different countries?   >:(
I think it's important to let them know there are many ways and I try my best to show them both American / British sounds where i can.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7894 on: May 02, 2018, 03:35:41 pm »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN

Fun fact, that was my nickname at my former school because apparently my "smile was full of energy." Though it took an explanation for me to realize what they were calling me because the pronunciation was different.   :laugh: 

Love the pokemon analogy.  I am fonder of cabbage's evolved forms than of cabbage itself.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7895 on: May 02, 2018, 03:39:23 pm »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN

Fun fact, that was my nickname at my former school because apparently my "smile was full of energy." Though it took an explanation for me to realize what they were calling me because the pronunciation was different.   :laugh: 

Love the pokemon analogy.  I am fonder of cabbage's evolved forms than of cabbage itself.

They called you Magikarp?  A little insensitive tbh.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7896 on: May 02, 2018, 03:41:48 pm »
Talking of built up resentment though...I do hate it when I have a school/teacher force the American pronunciations on me (I haven't had this for years thankfully but I know many British teachers do) and the students. I understand that is the language used here, however I don't feel that the kids should be told that the American way is the only *correct* way.
 If it is, why do they hire from different countries?   >:(
I think it's important to let them know there are many ways and I try my best to show them both American / British sounds where i can.


Or when they force a singular pronunciation in general (because even in the states there are varying pronunciations depending on which region you're from).  On the one hand, I get that that particular teacher was probably aiming for consistency, but for example, I pronounce "a" two different ways interchangeably and I see nothing wrong with letting the kids know either way is fine.  She even demanded I pronounce "aunt" like "ant" when I prefer the other variant. 

While I think I understand where she was coming from, I disliked that she was reinforcing the idea that there is only "one correct way." She did this in other ways too and I could see new students changing from eager to spit out any English they knew to being worried about spitting out the "wrong" answer. 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7897 on: May 02, 2018, 03:43:11 pm »
You know another word Americans pronounce better different?

"vitamin"

Only the difference is a bit more obvious.

I had no idea broccoli derived from cabbage.  (Along with misc other veggies.)

Fun fact, it's like real-life pokemon. Cabbage is basically magikarp. No one really knows what it's good for, BUT THEN

Fun fact, that was my nickname at my former school because apparently my "smile was full of energy." Though it took an explanation for me to realize what they were calling me because the pronunciation was different.   :laugh: 

Love the pokemon analogy.  I am fonder of cabbage's evolved forms than of cabbage itself.

They called you Magikarp?  A little insensitive tbh.

Lol, the bold.  You trawling?   :laugh:
Also, I would hesitate to describe a magikarp's "smile" as being "full of energy"  :undecided:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7898 on: May 02, 2018, 03:54:15 pm »
Picking on other people for having an accent is really low.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7899 on: May 02, 2018, 03:57:27 pm »
Wait, how do you pronunciation snobs pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard a non-American say it out loud, so I didn't know there was a difference.

Was just thinking this.

Like... trawling?
  :laugh:

God no...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/troll?q=trolling

The difference in pronunciation in those examples is honestly subtle enough that I probably wouldn't have even registered it as different if I heard it in casual conversation. Is the difference in real life more pronounced than in those recordings? They certainly don't sound drastic enough that I'd liken it to nails on a chalkboard or think it "does my head in," but I guess everyone has to be passionate about something.

Calm down Mr. Tim, it was clearly meant in jest. (From my side, don't know about Avec)

I also didn't say this pronunciation specifically,

Just that sometimes the American pronunciation of a words feels like nails on a chalkboard. One specific  example would be "Schedule".

I just prefer British pronunciation, it isn't a personal attack on you or your country.  ;D