RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

YAY!  Yet ANOTHER camp where my Co-Teacher does NOTHING but stands in the back shuffling her feet.  Didn't even help to translate what Iw as saying so the kids were lost....  **sigh**  Only three more days... Thank goodness!

These days when that happens I walk over to them and politely ask them if they could translate.  Shouldn't have to but that's our only option I suppose.

YAY!  Yet ANOTHER camp where my Co-Teacher does NOTHING but stands in the back shuffling her feet.  Didn't even help to translate what Iw as saying so the kids were lost....  **sigh**  Only three more days... Thank goodness!

These days when that happens I walk over to them and politely ask them if they could translate.  Shouldn't have to but that's our only option I suppose.

I did and I got the typical "huh"?  But, oh well...  Only three days.  No big deal I guess.

"Purpose of Form: Form 8802 is used to request Form 6166, a letter of U.S. residency certification for purposes of claiming benefits under an income tax treaty or VAT exemption."

Basically you don't pay Korean taxes because you are exempt and you pay taxes to the United States (which ends up being nothing / very small  since we don't make enough in Korea). This is to my understanding. It's my first year here, so my explanation may not be accurate. If you're not American or from a country that has a tax treaty with Korea, this doesn't apply to you. Even though I submitted form 6166, I still believe I have to file some sort of paperwork within Korea, right? Do I also have to submit paperwork? That's my question. I'm asking because my school sometimes waits until last minute and I don't want to be rushing to find paperwork.

Oh, I see now -- you're in your first year working in Korea, so you are exempt from paying taxes in Korea during your first 2 years of working in Korea (since you are a U.S. citizen). I've been working in Korea for many years now, so I do pay taxes in Korea.

As for your questions, I'm not sure -- when I used to work public schools jobs in Korea, I think the administration office at my schools would take care of filing the Korean tax forms/paperwork for me, so I don't think I had to submit/give them anything, but I suppose you could ask your co-teacher to ask your school's administration office to make sure/confirm whether you need to submit any paperwork for Korean tax stuff.

I asked my teacher if I had to submit anything and we went down to ask the person who deals with paychecks / taxes. He said I didn't have to submit anything because of the tax exemption. Hope this response helps other people in the same situation!

not really a rant.  i noticed that another political thread got locked again.      looks like chester got muted in the convo but not savant even though they were talking shit to each other.  two to tango yada yada.  just wondering how the mods determine who gets the mute when it's usually the same people calling each other names?  what's their breaking point to lock down threads?   why not mute everyone involved, maybe they all need a time out?  personally, i think politics needs to be banned.  religion is banned so why not ban something is also very divisive.

now i know we have the same group of people who do this every time on every thread.  it can be a thread about asking how to change the temperature on the thermostat  and *insert name of usual suspects* will somehow claim it's "racist" and that "emails" and that "change subject" to derail a topic.   

just trying to see the thought process of some of these mods.  it's happened on other threads from different mods on different topics.   i don't expect all of the mods to answer, not even sure if they are active or how active they are.  i just checked the mod list (old?) and some haven't been very active.  i'm also bored.   

not really a rant.  i noticed that another political thread got locked again.      looks like chester got muted in the convo but not savant even though they were talking shit to each other.  two to tango yada yada.  just wondering how the mods determine who gets the mute when it's usually the same people calling each other names?  what's their breaking point to lock down threads?   why not mute everyone involved, maybe they all need a time out?  personally, i think politics needs to be banned.  religion is banned so why not ban something is also very divisive.

now i know we have the same group of people who do this every time on every thread.  it can be a thread about asking how to change the temperature on the thermostat  and *insert name of usual suspects* will somehow claim it's "racist" and that "emails" and that "change subject" to derail a topic.   

just trying to see the thought process of some of these mods.  it's happened on other threads from different mods on different topics.   i don't expect all of the mods to answer, not even sure if they are active or how active they are.  i just checked the mod list (old?) and some haven't been very active.  i'm also bored.

I don't really have much of a process, but usually, what I do is delete all the off-topic name-calling and slap everybody with a 10% warning. Problem is, if there is a repeat offender, those 10% warnings quickly add up. When it reaches 80%, the system automatically mutes the poster. As warning percentages gradually decrease over time, the silence status affliction eventually wears off as well.
Insofar as I know, Mods don't actually directly mute a poster -- they just add warnings until the percentage reaches the mute point.

Other times (when I'm bored), I randomly mute people so that I can be entertained by the resulting drama.

thanks for the answer kyndo.  seems like warnings are being given to the same person instead of being distributed evenly then?  i say that because when i read these threads, i'm not seeing how both aren't being muted with the amount of poopoo they throw at each other.  i know it's pretty much impossible for a person to be non bias so they may give warnings to the person they disagree with.  thanos would not be pleased with the imbalance. 

still though, why not ban politics like they do religion? or at least find a better way to filter the front page? 

Other times (when I'm bored), I randomly mute people so that I can be entertained by the resulting drama.

 

still though, why not ban politics like they do religion? or at least find a better way to filter the front page? 

Modern puritanism rearing its ugly head again. People doing something on a website that has no effect on my life whatsoever, or maybe in an infinitesimal way, but I'm still going to call for it to be banned because I disapprove of it.

still though, why not ban politics like they do religion? or at least find a better way to filter the front page? 

Modern puritanism rearing its ugly head again. People doing something on a website that has no effect on my life whatsoever, or maybe in an infinitesimal way, but I'm still going to call for it to be banned because I disapprove of it.

I don’t think anybody is calling for a ban of discussing politics... just a ban on discussing it here, on a site which has a fairly narrow scope which doesn’t include that.

Much as how sex between consenting adults isn’t banned, but it will get you kicked out if IKEA.

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette. 

still though, why not ban politics like they do religion? or at least find a better way to filter the front page? 

I don’t think anybody is calling for a ban of discussing politics... just a ban on discussing it here, on a site which has a fairly narrow scope which doesn’t include that.

Much as how sex between consenting adults isn’t banned, but it will get you kicked out if IKEA.

pretty much this.  if they aren't going to allow one topic of conversation, why is the other acceptable?  both being extremely sensitive subjects (especially if you look at the back and forth you all go through) that always results in bickering and shit talking.  there had to be a reason religion was banned.  pretty sure that reason can apply to politics as well

Modern puritanism rearing its ugly head again. People doing something on a website that has no effect on my life whatsoever, or maybe in an infinitesimal way, but I'm still going to call for it to be banned because I disapprove of it.

sure

my question was directed at what criteria the mods use to ban people and close down topics.  kyndo answered the banning people part.

i've made complaints about the front page before.  it needs an overhaul. 

edit.  messed up the quotes.  poo

still though, why not ban politics like they do religion? or at least find a better way to filter the front page? 

Modern puritanism rearing its ugly head again. People doing something on a website that has no effect on my life whatsoever, or maybe in an infinitesimal way, but I'm still going to call for it to be banned because I disapprove of it.

I don’t think anybody is calling for a ban of discussing politics... just a ban on discussing it here, on a site which has a fairly narrow scope which doesn’t include that.

Much as how sex between consenting adults isn’t banned, but it will get you kicked out if IKEA.

Sex in public is illegal and covered by indecency laws. A better analogy would be banning talking about politics in  IKEA. Why not? After all people go there to talk about furniture.

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette.

my biggest complaint about the front page is that new teachers come here and are looking for resources.  waygook helped me out when i was starting out.  it's just kind of shitty that the first thing they see is endless topics on us politics. 

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette.

Would you go to the teaching plans section on here and talk about politics? No, you do it in the forum created for talking about current affairs or specific countries. Pretty difficult to talk about those topoics without getting into politics occasionally, I'd have thought.

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette.

my biggest complaint about the front page is that new teachers come here and are looking for resources.  waygook helped me out when i was starting out.  it's just kind of shitty that the first thing they see is endless topics on us politics.

Considering most people read from the top of the page, the first thing they see is 'new in lesson plans' isn't it?

Modern puritanism rearing its ugly head again. People doing something on a website that has no effect on my life whatsoever, or maybe in an infinitesimal way, but I'm still going to call for it to be banned because I disapprove of it.

I know that when I see something online that I don't like, I make sure that no one else can do it either.

And I know that when two people get out of hand, you should just nike the whole thread. Why discipline badly behaving individuals when you can just erase everything? (OINK)

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette.

my biggest complaint about the front page is that new teachers come here and are looking for resources.  waygook helped me out when i was starting out.  it's just kind of shitty that the first thing they see is endless topics on us politics.

After the paywall appeared, people go to the other site for free resources.

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette.

my biggest complaint about the front page is that new teachers come here and are looking for resources.  waygook helped me out when i was starting out.  it's just kind of shitty that the first thing they see is endless topics on us politics.

After the paywall appeared, people go to the other site for free resources.

true but some people do still pay though.  mostly noobies.  just out of curiosity savant, what's your warning rating if you mind me asking?  if you saw what i originally wrote, i'm more or less curious about how some of the mods determine locking threads (not deleted at least, people can still read them,  good!) and muting people (kyndo answered this already).  you don't need to answer if you don't want to.

i just think the front page needs to be dedicated to the purpose of the site.  politics can be discussed just not displayed on the front page. 

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette.

my biggest complaint about the front page is that new teachers come here and are looking for resources.  waygook helped me out when i was starting out.  it's just kind of shitty that the first thing they see is endless topics on us politics.

After the paywall appeared, people go to the other site for free resources.

true but some people do still pay though.  mostly noobies.  just out of curiosity savant, what's your warning rating if you mind me asking?  if you saw what i originally wrote, i'm more or less curious about how some of the mods determine locking threads (not deleted at least, people can still read them,  good!) and muting people (kyndo answered this already).  you don't need to answer if you don't want to.

i just think the front page needs to be dedicated to the purpose of the site.  politics can be discussed just not displayed on the front page.

My warning rating is minimal. I saw what you wrote but chose not to respond.

I don't have any sway in how the forum is presented on the front page.

Exactly. Would you go to the Korea reddit forms and talk about a Western ad? It's irrelevant, meaning it's not nice to waste people's time crowding the space with that they don't want to read because it's unrelated. Bad manners. Maybe pester strangers in a pub if it's so important to you. You can join a discussion meet up then change the topic to Gillette.

my biggest complaint about the front page is that new teachers come here and are looking for resources.  waygook helped me out when i was starting out.  it's just kind of shitty that the first thing they see is endless topics on us politics.

After the paywall appeared, people go to the other site for free resources.

true but some people do still pay though.  mostly noobies.  just out of curiosity savant, what's your warning rating if you mind me asking?  if you saw what i originally wrote, i'm more or less curious about how some of the mods determine locking threads (not deleted at least, people can still read them,  good!) and muting people (kyndo answered this already).  you don't need to answer if you don't want to.

i just think the front page needs to be dedicated to the purpose of the site.  politics can be discussed just not displayed on the front page.

Those threads appear in the "Recent Activity" section.

What's your solution?  Do away with such a section--which would seem to irritate a lot of people looking for advice on whatr kind of stove to buy or whether korean toothpaste has fluoride--or change it to "Recent Activity Except in Threads tanis Doesn't Like"?

no.  not do away with it.  a while ago i suggested it should be this page http://www.waygook.org/index.php?action=forum

this should be the home page. 

savant-ah ok.  yeah, i'm still curious about how they mute people.  nothing personal.  with what kyndo said, it's probably just whoever the mods agree with before they hit the warning button.  just from where i'm at and how i read these threads, not really sure how they determine that. 

still, mods haven't answered why 1 particular subject is banned and not the other.  like i said, bored and curious.  i like this site.  it has helped who knows how many people.  despite the paywall, some people do still pay.  i even have adblock turned off for this site.   

What's your solution?  Do away with such a section--which would seem to irritate a lot of people looking for advice on whatr kind of stove to buy or whether korean toothpaste has fluoride--or change it to "Recent Activity Except in Threads tanis Doesn't Like"?

  ok bub.