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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9180 on: December 04, 2018, 08:17:24 am »
Update to the TV drama.

I've been told that the TV was installed by someone (company) in Seoul and only that person (company) can come and fix it.   :rolleyes:  Since no one else in the area can fix said TV, there it will sit until Winter break, because that's the ONLY time this special person can come and fix said TV.  **sigh**

Icing on the cake:  Now I have Winter camp.  I was exempt this year but apparently one of the teachers flaked so the PoE asked me to take their place.  I could have said no, but like the @ss I am, I agreed to do it. 

Cheery on top:  The teacher I'm taking over for is the a-hole that blasts their music till 11PM almost every night. 

Seriously!  I must have don't something to piss the Karma gods off!   :cry:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9181 on: December 04, 2018, 10:20:28 am »
Update to the TV drama.

I've been told that the TV was installed by someone (company) in Seoul and only that person (company) can come and fix it.   :rolleyes:  Since no one else in the area can fix said TV, there it will sit until Winter break, because that's the ONLY time this special person can come and fix said TV.  **sigh**

Icing on the cake:  Now I have Winter camp.  I was exempt this year but apparently one of the teachers flaked so the PoE asked me to take their place.  I could have said no, but like the @ss I am, I agreed to do it. 

Cheery on top:  The teacher I'm taking over for is the a-hole that blasts their music till 11PM almost every night. 

Seriously!  I must have don't something to piss the Karma gods off!   :cry:

Wow that really sucks and sounds like a garbagefire that was just made up so they didn't have to get it done now. "One special person" sounds like a load of garbage to me. What are they, apple TVs?

On a different note, why do you let someone blast music till 11PM in your apartment complex? After 10pm I knock on doors and get it to stop. No reason for anyone to have music on that loud. 


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9182 on: December 04, 2018, 10:55:50 am »
Agreed to renew with my current school for another year, but I'm regretting it.

Wow that really sucks and sounds like a garbagefire that was just made up so they didn't have to get it done now. "One special person" sounds like a load of garbage to me. What are they, apple TVs?

I'm guessing they purchased a service contract with that person because that person was cheap, and they don't want to spend MORE money on someone closer and more readily available.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9183 on: December 04, 2018, 10:57:47 am »
Agreed to renew with my current school for another year, but I'm regretting it.

Wow that really sucks and sounds like a garbagefire that was just made up so they didn't have to get it done now. "One special person" sounds like a load of garbage to me. What are they, apple TVs?

I'm guessing they purchased a service contract with that person because that person was cheap, and they don't want to spend MORE money on someone closer and more readily available.

Why are you regretting it? :o
If you didn't renew, would you transfer, reapply to try get a different province, or head to another country for a change of pace?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9184 on: December 04, 2018, 11:03:45 am »
Why are you regretting it? :o
If you didn't renew, would you transfer, reapply to try get a different province, or head to another country for a change of pace?

The bullshit levels have risen every year since I've gotten here, with this past year being a leap rather than a step thanks largely to the new VP (he's an incompetent manchild, and his influence has been rubbing off on the rest of the assholes in the school).

Had a couple of interactions this morning that kind of reminded me of that.  :cry:

But it's fine. I'll be fine.  :lipsrsealed:

I haven't really decided if I'll be staying in Korea or leaving for a different country altogether, yet, but if I stay I'll request a rural assignment and hope for the best.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9185 on: December 04, 2018, 12:48:57 pm »
Why are you regretting it? :o
If you didn't renew, would you transfer, reapply to try get a different province, or head to another country for a change of pace?

The bullshit levels have risen every year since I've gotten here, with this past year being a leap rather than a step thanks largely to the new VP (he's an incompetent manchild, and his influence has been rubbing off on the rest of the assholes in the school).

Had a couple of interactions this morning that kind of reminded me of that.  :cry:

But it's fine. I'll be fine.  :lipsrsealed:

I haven't really decided if I'll be staying in Korea or leaving for a different country altogether, yet, but if I stay I'll request a rural assignment and hope for the best.

Ahh, sorry to hear that.
Actually, in January, I have an interview for a public school position in Osaka, that would start in September.
I kind of want to stay where I am in Korea a bit longer, it's a nice rural school position but, the boredom is starting to get to me a bit too much, and at 1 of my travel schools the students are difficult at best (even if there are some great kids there).


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9186 on: December 04, 2018, 03:25:45 pm »
Update to the TV drama.

I've been told that the TV was installed by someone (company) in Seoul and only that person (company) can come and fix it.   :rolleyes:  Since no one else in the area can fix said TV, there it will sit until Winter break, because that's the ONLY time this special person can come and fix said TV.  **sigh**

Icing on the cake:  Now I have Winter camp.  I was exempt this year but apparently one of the teachers flaked so the PoE asked me to take their place.  I could have said no, but like the @ss I am, I agreed to do it. 

Cheery on top:  The teacher I'm taking over for is the a-hole that blasts their music till 11PM almost every night. 

Seriously!  I must have don't something to piss the Karma gods off!   :cry:

Wow that really sucks and sounds like a garbagefire that was just made up so they didn't have to get it done now. "One special person" sounds like a load of garbage to me. What are they, apple TVs?

On a different note, why do you let someone blast music till 11PM in your apartment complex? After 10pm I knock on doors and get it to stop. No reason for anyone to have music on that loud.

It's BS and I know it, but so long as the small TV works in my room, then so be it. 

As for the music prick, you can bang on the door, ceiling etc, and they wont turn it down.  ANd if they do, it goes from 11 to 10/ 1/2.    There are some weekends that it starts at 10AM and goes until 11PM  I shite you not!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9187 on: December 04, 2018, 04:43:20 pm »
Last night, my wife’s CT sent a message that there’d be no classes today. It’s a rural school, 40min drive away and this morning it started raining. We sent a message saying she’d be deskwarming at her main school, 10min walk from our apartment as we didn’t want to make the long drive for nothing. In typical “I can’t wipe my arse without asking the principal fashion” CT says he has to ask the principal. Eventually, we get the green light. My wife’s CT, at the rural school, is married to one of the tecachers at my wife’s main school. At 4:25pm today, she (CT’s wife), came to “visit” my wife to say goodbye... first time she’s “visited”. My wife didn’t leave early, she was planning camp.

How sad and pathetic must your life be that you call your wife to check that one of your co-workers hasn’t left early?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9188 on: December 04, 2018, 05:56:59 pm »
Update to the TV drama.

I've been told that the TV was installed by someone (company) in Seoul and only that person (company) can come and fix it.   :rolleyes:  Since no one else in the area can fix said TV, there it will sit until Winter break, because that's the ONLY time this special person can come and fix said TV.  **sigh**

Icing on the cake:  Now I have Winter camp.  I was exempt this year but apparently one of the teachers flaked so the PoE asked me to take their place.  I could have said no, but like the @ss I am, I agreed to do it. 

Cheery on top:  The teacher I'm taking over for is the a-hole that blasts their music till 11PM almost every night. 

Seriously!  I must have don't something to piss the Karma gods off!   :cry:

Wow that really sucks and sounds like a garbagefire that was just made up so they didn't have to get it done now. "One special person" sounds like a load of garbage to me. What are they, apple TVs?

On a different note, why do you let someone blast music till 11PM in your apartment complex? After 10pm I knock on doors and get it to stop. No reason for anyone to have music on that loud.

It's BS and I know it, but so long as the small TV works in my room, then so be it. 

As for the music prick, you can bang on the door, ceiling etc, and they wont turn it down.  ANd if they do, it goes from 11 to 10/ 1/2.    There are some weekends that it starts at 10AM and goes until 11PM  I shite you not!

Call the police


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9189 on: December 05, 2018, 02:15:31 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9190 on: December 05, 2018, 02:29:15 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.
they are just children....please understand them


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9191 on: December 05, 2018, 03:12:42 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.
they are just children....please understand them

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9192 on: December 05, 2018, 03:25:22 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

I have university students who turn up to their final exams without pens or pencils, and not just freshmen.  Every semester at least 3 students sit like lemons, and WAIT until i ask is they have a pan or pencil before they say "no".  i even remind them in the class before the exam that they must bring a pen or pencil.  This semester, if they sit silently, i am just going to leave them, if they don't have the gumption to ask, let them fail!  I am surprised these "adults" know how to wipe their arses sometimes.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9193 on: December 05, 2018, 08:26:07 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

Sucks, bro. My CT was spot on when she said "I'm worried about the future of this country."

Today, I played movies since I was pretty damn sick. Before dismissing the students (I always make them stand up straight, face the front and greet), I caught a boy frantically trying to erase what he scribbled on the desk.
I walked over and found he'd filled the desk with scribbles and had drawn a penis across the desk. I made him clean every desk during the intermission between classes, I also made him come back during lunch to clean the whole class, alone and I gave him 200 lines to write out by Friday.

In my experience, the key to having the authority to discipline is to take it, not to ask for it. At first, my CT would try to persuade me not to discipline the students, but I insisted. I told her that this MY way of teaching an if anyone has any complaints, I'll take responsibility. It worked, and to all those people saying "Yeah, that's how you get fired", well, my contracts been renewed 3x for this school and I received a reward from the MOE this year of 2 extra vacation days... yah :rolleyes:, for getting perfect scores on my renewal for 3 years straight.

I haven't been able to create a perfect teaching environment, some students are just thicker than bricks and never learn from punishment, but outside these anomalies, the majority are well-behaved.



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9194 on: December 05, 2018, 08:27:39 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

I have university students who turn up to their final exams without pens or pencils, and not just freshmen.  Every semester at least 3 students sit like lemons, and WAIT until i ask is they have a pan or pencil before they say "no".  i even remind them in the class before the exam that they must bring a pen or pencil.  This semester, if they sit silently, i am just going to leave them, if they don't have the gumption to ask, let them fail!  I am surprised these "adults" know how to wipe their arses sometimes.

Is the university situation still like the old days, where some universities will pass students no matter how poorly they perform?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9195 on: December 05, 2018, 10:24:23 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

Sucks, bro. My CT was spot on when she said "I'm worried about the future of this country."

Today, I played movies since I was pretty damn sick. Before dismissing the students (I always make them stand up straight, face the front and greet), I caught a boy frantically trying to erase what he scribbled on the desk.
I walked over and found he'd filled the desk with scribbles and had drawn a penis across the desk. I made him clean every desk during the intermission between classes, I also made him come back during lunch to clean the whole class, alone and I gave him 200 lines to write out by Friday.

In my experience, the key to having the authority to discipline is to take it, not to ask for it. At first, my CT would try to persuade me not to discipline the students, but I insisted. I told her that this MY way of teaching an if anyone has any complaints, I'll take responsibility. It worked, and to all those people saying "Yeah, that's how you get fired", well, my contracts been renewed 3x for this school and I received a reward from the MOE this year of 2 extra vacation days... yah :rolleyes:, for getting perfect scores on my renewal for 3 years straight.

I haven't been able to create a perfect teaching environment, some students are just thicker than bricks and never learn from punishment, but outside these anomalies, the majority are well-behaved.

One of my students (I am not in Korea) made a penis fight Obama in Puppet Pals. This was supposed to be his Parents' Day project!

He changed it to a picture of George W. Bush, called him "Trump"- dear god, he might actually be a genius- and then it ended with Obama running a tank over TrumBush while yelling I LOVE TO EAT CHOCOLATE DONUTSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Honestly, Hollywood could not improve on this.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9196 on: December 05, 2018, 11:39:35 pm »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

I have university students who turn up to their final exams without pens or pencils, and not just freshmen.  Every semester at least 3 students sit like lemons, and WAIT until i ask is they have a pan or pencil before they say "no".  i even remind them in the class before the exam that they must bring a pen or pencil.  This semester, if they sit silently, i am just going to leave them, if they don't have the gumption to ask, let them fail!  I am surprised these "adults" know how to wipe their arses sometimes.

Is the university situation still like the old days, where some universities will pass students no matter how poorly they perform?

I have (NET) co-workers who think kind of like that.  Everyone who makes it to the end, no matter what they have or haven't done will get a passing grade, even if their score is single figures.  Some will say: "A C grade feels like a fail to them", they don't even give D grades.  Most of them are afraid of the students (fairly meaningless) evaluations.  What they don't consider is the Students who work hard, get pissed off by the slackers, and as such may give lower evaluations when they see that you are weak when it comes to the slackers.   

I designed my class so that the exams make up less than half the total score, so no-one can simply "do well in exams".  Homework and participation are equal to the exams, and there are other parts that make up the 100%.  I have no qualms failing a student, and below a certain score, i do, but due to the way my grading is setup, it is possible to have achieved that score before midterm exam, yet some students will do sweet FA and fail.

A few semesters ago, due to a lack of effort, and penalty points (late, absent etc) a student finished on minus points.  He sent an email begging for a pass, he couldn't fathom how he had failed.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9197 on: December 06, 2018, 07:12:26 am »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

Sucks, bro. My CT was spot on when she said "I'm worried about the future of this country."

Today, I played movies since I was pretty damn sick. Before dismissing the students (I always make them stand up straight, face the front and greet), I caught a boy frantically trying to erase what he scribbled on the desk.
I walked over and found he'd filled the desk with scribbles and had drawn a penis across the desk. I made him clean every desk during the intermission between classes, I also made him come back during lunch to clean the whole class, alone and I gave him 200 lines to write out by Friday.

In my experience, the key to having the authority to discipline is to take it, not to ask for it. At first, my CT would try to persuade me not to discipline the students, but I insisted. I told her that this MY way of teaching an if anyone has any complaints, I'll take responsibility. It worked, and to all those people saying "Yeah, that's how you get fired", well, my contracts been renewed 3x for this school and I received a reward from the MOE this year of 2 extra vacation days... yah :rolleyes:, for getting perfect scores on my renewal for 3 years straight.

I haven't been able to create a perfect teaching environment, some students are just thicker than bricks and never learn from punishment, but outside these anomalies, the majority are well-behaved.

One of my students (I am not in Korea) made a penis fight Obama in Puppet Pals. This was supposed to be his Parents' Day project!

He changed it to a picture of George W. Bush, called him "Trump"- dear god, he might actually be a genius- and then it ended with Obama running a tank over TrumBush while yelling I LOVE TO EAT CHOCOLATE DONUTSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Honestly, Hollywood could not improve on this.

Yup.. politics, nothing but a penis touching fight contest.  Smart kid! 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9198 on: December 06, 2018, 07:51:17 am »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

I have university students who turn up to their final exams without pens or pencils, and not just freshmen.  Every semester at least 3 students sit like lemons, and WAIT until i ask is they have a pan or pencil before they say "no".  i even remind them in the class before the exam that they must bring a pen or pencil.  This semester, if they sit silently, i am just going to leave them, if they don't have the gumption to ask, let them fail!  I am surprised these "adults" know how to wipe their arses sometimes.

Is the university situation still like the old days, where some universities will pass students no matter how poorly they perform?

A friend of mine emailed her professor (a British guy teaching an English Lit course as part of her master's degree) asking if he would change her grade because "Korean professors always do that and just give you 100%".  She also asked him if they could "skip the final exam" because "Koreans usually don't have to do that at uni".


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9199 on: December 06, 2018, 08:04:45 am »
I don't know why I bother having class rules when I'm not allowed to enforce any real consequences for breaking them. It'd be nice if my school had my back on it, but they absolutely do not. I'm seriously tempted to remove "No sleeping" and "Always bring your book and a writing utensil" from my classroom rules, because trying to enforce them is totally pointless. If the KETs and school administrators deal with disobedient students by just throwing their hands up and saying "Oh well, what're you gonna do, am I right?" then maybe I should, too.

I have university students who turn up to their final exams without pens or pencils, and not just freshmen.  Every semester at least 3 students sit like lemons, and WAIT until i ask is they have a pan or pencil before they say "no".  i even remind them in the class before the exam that they must bring a pen or pencil.  This semester, if they sit silently, i am just going to leave them, if they don't have the gumption to ask, let them fail!  I am surprised these "adults" know how to wipe their arses sometimes.

Is the university situation still like the old days, where some universities will pass students no matter how poorly they perform?

A friend of mine emailed her professor (a British guy teaching an English Lit course as part of her master's degree) asking if he would change her grade because "Korean professors always do that and just give you 100%".  She also asked him if they could "skip the final exam" because "Koreans usually don't have to do that at uni".

It is all part of English American Korean Exceptionalism.