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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9120 on: November 09, 2018, 01:09:10 pm »
Cheers fam. I won't forget this time i promise!  :wink:
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9121 on: November 09, 2018, 01:21:09 pm »
Probably would be having a mental breakdown right now if not for the reassurance I get to attend a concert this weekend. Still have two classes to go, but the worst is out of the way.

It's an Owl City concert by the way.
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I'm sorry that you're having a tough day. TGIF

Enjoy your concert back to sanity.

I appreciate it. Many of you on here are more reassuring than my CT who smiles and says "Don't worry! I feel like it's useless too!"
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9122 on: November 11, 2018, 01:37:45 pm »
Taleo job application systems are so frustrating!

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9123 on: November 12, 2018, 12:32:27 pm »
Posting on behalf of someone else

Wife just called me, in tears, to tell me about the final straw with her school. It's a big elementary school, with rather large classes and the behaviour has been rapidly getting out of control. Today, to boys were drawing penises on their desks and my wife and the CT told them to erase it, they refused. Another girl refused to stop playing on her phone, during class. I've never heard of elementary school students being this disrespectful. They swear at the CT, argue with them and refuse to listen.

All this as bad, but the final straw, the SCUM of the f*cking Earth is her CT. For the third time now, things have gotten really bad in class, students openly defying and laughing at my wife and CT, as things get more heated, what does the CT do? This f*cking coward leaves the class and runs away. No, she doesn't get help, she just runs away, leaving my wife alone to handle a bunch of very volatile students. My wife spotted the CT peeking around the corner of the corridor into the class. As said, this is the 3rd time the CT has simply run away with no concern for for anyone other than herself. When she does get back, she openly undermines my wife's authority, when my wife tries to discipline and reprimand them, by letting them off with not doing the writing out my wife gives them or simply taking their side.
What's the bloody other "side" of the argument when a student calls a teacher a bitch, in front of everyone, laughs and refuses to do anything they're told? What makes it worse, she's the head teacher too. Low and behold, one of the boys parents was actually called in, earlier this year, to discuss the problem with the VP. The mother flat out refused to accept that her child could be the only problem, and the meek little VP could do nothing but let her have her way.

My wife will be demanding a transfer to a new school for the start of the new school term. This type of non-confrontational, face saving cowardice is far too common in Korea to be called an isolated case. Though the degree varies, it's a cultural endemic. I don't care if I sound a bit racist, I've lived here long enough to earn an opinion, I'm more inclined to believe that the yellow Asian stereotype has its roots in the colour of the blood, not the skin.

Rant over


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9124 on: November 12, 2018, 01:11:35 pm »
Though the degree varies, it's a cultural endemic. I don't care if I sound a bit racist, I've lived here long enough to earn an opinion, I'm more inclined to believe that the yellow Asian stereotype has its roots in the colour of the blood, not the skin.
If that's the road you want to go down, I assume your own background and religion is fair game?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9125 on: November 12, 2018, 01:45:17 pm »
Though the degree varies, it's a cultural endemic. I don't care if I sound a bit racist, I've lived here long enough to earn an opinion, I'm more inclined to believe that the yellow Asian stereotype has its roots in the colour of the blood, not the skin.
If that's the road you want to go down, I assume your own background and religion is fair game?

Love it!

Student draws penises on the desk and refuses to stop when teacher tells them - Nothing
Student calls teacher a bitch - Nothing
Student refuses to put away phone - Nothing
Entire class structure has broken down - Nothing
CT runs away leaving NET and students in a potentially dangerous situation (student could have stabbed someone, a few months ago a student from this class actually did threaten another with a pair of scissors)... 3 times - Nothing
Someone blames Korean culture for making Koreans cowardly - Puts on cape and grabs pitchfork!

Korean culture, specifically the current interpretation of Confucianism, encourages cowardly behaviour.
I see no logical way that you can prove me wrong.

You assume correctly, my Faith is perfectly fair game. Criticize it all you want, it doesn't bother me as I simply employ logic to refute your arguments.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9126 on: November 12, 2018, 01:58:09 pm »
it doesn't bother me as I simply employ logic to refute your arguments.

all the people on this forum who refer to their own use of "logic" make me cringe so hard. i don't know why that's become a trend, but to me it comes off as so masturbatory.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9127 on: November 12, 2018, 02:18:07 pm »
it doesn't bother me as I simply employ logic to refute your arguments.

all the people on this forum who refer to their own use of "logic" make me cringe so hard. i don't know why that's become a trend, but to me it comes off as so masturbatory.

Yeah, just explain your point. We will get it.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9128 on: November 12, 2018, 02:29:06 pm »
it doesn't bother me as I simply employ logic to refute your arguments.

all the people on this forum who refer to their own use of "logic" make me cringe so hard. i don't know why that's become a trend, but to me it comes off as so masturbatory.

If you're going to say something like that, it would be helpful if you cited examples as to who you're referring to and when they employed said logic.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9129 on: November 12, 2018, 02:37:41 pm »
Korean culture, specifically the current interpretation of Confucianism, encourages cowardly behaviour.
I see no logical way that you can prove me wrong.
Is this the cowardice of North Koreans fighting in harsh conditions during the Korean War? Is it the student protests of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, when those people you rip on were getting teargassed and billyclubbed for democracy while you were just a speck in your parents' eye? Or maybe it was in Gwangju when they rebelled and took up arms?

The problem of out of control students and lawsuit culture exists around the world, particularly in developed areas. I don't see how it's a uniquely Korean problem.

For your statement of Korean culture being uniquely a factor here, we would have to prove that there were aspects that didn't exist in other parts of the world. However, as numerous examples of bad behavior that goes unconfronted exist around the world, as well as people unwilling to confront certain problems or brushing them under the carpet, I don't think you've met the standard of proof required for your claim.

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I see no logical way that you can prove me wrong.
Your lack of imagination or consideration of alternatives is not logical.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9130 on: November 12, 2018, 02:45:25 pm »
Korean culture, specifically the current interpretation of Confucianism, encourages cowardly behaviour.
I see no logical way that you can prove me wrong.
Is this the cowardice of North Koreans fighting in harsh conditions during the Korean War? Is it the student protests of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, when those people you rip on were getting teargassed and billyclubbed for democracy while you were just a speck in your parents' eye? Or maybe it was in Gwangju when they rebelled and took up arms?

The problem of out of control students and lawsuit culture exists around the world, particularly in developed areas. I don't see how it's a uniquely Korean problem.

For your statement of Korean culture being uniquely a factor here, we would have to prove that there were aspects that didn't exist in other parts of the world. However, as numerous examples of bad behavior that goes unconfronted exist around the world, as well as people unwilling to confront certain problems or brushing them under the carpet, I don't think you've met the standard of proof required for your claim.

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I see no logical way that you can prove me wrong.
Your lack of imagination or consideration of alternatives is not logical.

Can you post an example of bravery from this century?  Your most recent example was 30+ years ago, before many people working in schools were born. 


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9131 on: November 12, 2018, 02:47:36 pm »
it doesn't bother me as I simply employ logic to refute your arguments.

all the people on this forum who refer to their own use of "logic" make me cringe so hard. i don't know why that's become a trend, but to me it comes off as so masturbatory.

If you're going to say something like that, it would be helpful if you cited examples as to who you're referring to and when they employed said logic.

From now on, I'll be sure to point them out to you. Also, it's not the "employment of logic" itself that bothers me (that would be a really strange thing to be bothered about). What bothers me is the masturbatory "look at my sick logic" remark that usually comes at the end of an argument.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9132 on: November 12, 2018, 02:49:28 pm »
Posting on behalf of someone else

Wife just called me, in tears, to tell me about the final straw with her school. It's a big elementary school, with rather large classes and the behaviour has been rapidly getting out of control. Today, to boys were drawing penises on their desks and my wife and the CT told them to erase it, they refused. Another girl refused to stop playing on her phone, during class. I've never heard of elementary school students being this disrespectful. They swear at the CT, argue with them and refuse to listen.

All this as bad, but the final straw, the SCUM of the f*cking Earth is her CT. For the third time now, things have gotten really bad in class, students openly defying and laughing at my wife and CT, as things get more heated, what does the CT do? This f*cking coward leaves the class and runs away. No, she doesn't get help, she just runs away, leaving my wife alone to handle a bunch of very volatile students. My wife spotted the CT peeking around the corner of the corridor into the class. As said, this is the 3rd time the CT has simply run away with no concern for for anyone other than herself. When she does get back, she openly undermines my wife's authority, when my wife tries to discipline and reprimand them, by letting them off with not doing the writing out my wife gives them or simply taking their side.
What's the bloody other "side" of the argument when a student calls a teacher a bitch, in front of everyone, laughs and refuses to do anything they're told? What makes it worse, she's the head teacher too. Low and behold, one of the boys parents was actually called in, earlier this year, to discuss the problem with the VP. The mother flat out refused to accept that her child could be the only problem, and the meek little VP could do nothing but let her have her way.

My wife will be demanding a transfer to a new school for the start of the new school term. This type of non-confrontational, face saving cowardice is far too common in Korea to be called an isolated case. Though the degree varies, it's a cultural endemic. I don't care if I sound a bit racist, I've lived here long enough to earn an opinion, I'm more inclined to believe that the yellow Asian stereotype has its roots in the colour of the blood, not the skin.

Rant over
the kids in my after school program are like this, too. kids are bad, so i discipline them. kids complain to their parents that the teacher tells them off so it's not fun. parents quit the class. company manage blames me for being a "bad teacher"  :rolleyes: i absolutely ****** hate this job and it amazes me that parents are basically enabling their shitty kid's bad behaviour.

i feel sorry for & understand that native teacher's situation. basically just thrown under the bus


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9133 on: November 12, 2018, 02:52:13 pm »
Korean culture, specifically the current interpretation of Confucianism, encourages cowardly behaviour.
I see no logical way that you can prove me wrong.
Is this the cowardice of North Koreans fighting in harsh conditions during the Korean War? Is it the student protests of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, when those people you rip on were getting teargassed and billyclubbed for democracy while you were just a speck in your parents' eye? Or maybe it was in Gwangju when they rebelled and took up arms?

The problem of out of control students and lawsuit culture exists around the world, particularly in developed areas. I don't see how it's a uniquely Korean problem.

For your statement of Korean culture being uniquely a factor here, we would have to prove that there were aspects that didn't exist in other parts of the world. However, as numerous examples of bad behavior that goes unconfronted exist around the world, as well as people unwilling to confront certain problems or brushing them under the carpet, I don't think you've met the standard of proof required for your claim.

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I see no logical way that you can prove me wrong.
Your lack of imagination or consideration of alternatives is not logical.

Can you post an example of bravery from this century?  Your most recent example was 30+ years ago, before many people working in schools were born.

Steels' has previously championed the prowess of the Sewol Captain.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9134 on: November 12, 2018, 02:58:53 pm »
Can you post an example of bravery from this century?  Your most recent example was 30+ years ago, before many people working in schools were born.
Society has been relatively stable. Korea has a rather low rate of public violent crime and is not involved in any great wars. I suppose you could look at various skirmish actions along the NLL and minor news stories.

Steels' has previously championed the prowess of the Sewol Captain.
No I didn't. That is your hallucination. It's not my fault your brain is not developed enough to comprehend nuance.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9135 on: November 16, 2018, 01:24:10 pm »
Thoughts on other teachers in the office listening to music without headphones?

It makes me want to smash my head against my desk.  Or their desk.  Whichever  :laugh:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9136 on: November 16, 2018, 01:40:26 pm »
Thoughts on other teachers in the office listening to music without headphones?

It makes me want to smash my head against my desk.  Or their desk.  Whichever  :laugh:

I feel for you.  I have an @sshole neighbor that likes to turn it past 11 almost on a daily. 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9137 on: November 16, 2018, 01:54:32 pm »
I hate rat kids.

 :shocked: Teacher, Dogeons hands are in his desk.

 :shocked: Teacher, Minsu isn't looking at the board. He's looking outside.

 :shocked: Teacher, Minsu is playing with his eraser.

Like, seriously? Put your hand down and STFU, Christ.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9138 on: November 16, 2018, 02:00:46 pm »
I hate rat kids.

 :shocked: Teacher, Dogeons hands are in his desk.

 :shocked: Teacher, Minsu isn't looking at the board. He's looking outside.

 :laugh: Teacher, Minsu is playing with his eraser.

Like, seriously? Put your hand down and STFU, Christ.

Snitches get stitches!  :afro:
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9139 on: November 16, 2018, 02:06:56 pm »
I hate rat kids.

 :shocked: Teacher, Dogeons hands are in his desk.

 :shocked: Teacher, Minsu isn't looking at the board. He's looking outside.

 :laugh: Teacher, Minsu is playing with his eraser.

Like, seriously? Put your hand down and STFU, Christ.

Snitches get stitches!  :afro:

I just want to shake him and tell him "You are 50x more distracting than any of that other shit!"
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