Quote from: JVPrice on November 08, 2018, 10:51:11 amQuote from: Aristocrat on November 08, 2018, 10:29:20 amQuote from: JVPrice on November 08, 2018, 09:53:03 amOhhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.WHY AM I HERE!?!? This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?How is memorize and recite dialogue any different from your standard Korean "speaking test"?It's not about them being different, it's the fact that I'm not even grading them. My CTs are doing everything. I thought the whole point of us NETs was to teach and evaluate listening and speaking skills. When you relegate that to the CTs, it really reinforces the fact that we're all just here for show.I hear you and realized after my 1st year that ESL teachers are pretty much just here for show (I still think you can make a positive impact on students)... after my 2nd year, I stopped feeling guilty and useless when I realized that Korean teachers are also here for show (they really have no authority and their grades mean nothing). My 3rd year, I realized that pretty much the entirety of Korean culture revolves around one giant show or farce.
Quote from: Aristocrat on November 08, 2018, 10:29:20 amQuote from: JVPrice on November 08, 2018, 09:53:03 amOhhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.WHY AM I HERE!?!? This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?How is memorize and recite dialogue any different from your standard Korean "speaking test"?It's not about them being different, it's the fact that I'm not even grading them. My CTs are doing everything. I thought the whole point of us NETs was to teach and evaluate listening and speaking skills. When you relegate that to the CTs, it really reinforces the fact that we're all just here for show.
Quote from: JVPrice on November 08, 2018, 09:53:03 amOhhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.WHY AM I HERE!?!? This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?How is memorize and recite dialogue any different from your standard Korean "speaking test"?
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.WHY AM I HERE!?!? This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?
I have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself. The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face". Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.
^ haha. well, i just had 2 days of open classes for my after school program. a grand total of 0 parents and 0 teachers showed up, which shows just how little anyone cares about any of it
Quote from: MaximusPrime on November 08, 2018, 12:12:45 pmI have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself. The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face". Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.Interesting! I didn't know that about Canada. You can fail every year in USA including kindergarten (unless that's changed since I was a kid).
Quote from: hayleebb87 on November 08, 2018, 01:10:34 pmQuote from: MaximusPrime on November 08, 2018, 12:12:45 pmI have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself. The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face". Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.Interesting! I didn't know that about Canada. You can fail every year in USA including kindergarten (unless that's changed since I was a kid). It also used to be like that till recently from what I have heard. When I was young I knew a bunch of kids who had failed grades and then did really well after they had repeated. I just don't see the benefit for the child. But what do I know... Just in a system that does that and see how unmotivated some students can be with no consequences for their actions.
Quote from: MaximusPrime on November 08, 2018, 02:21:42 pmQuote from: hayleebb87 on November 08, 2018, 01:10:34 pmQuote from: MaximusPrime on November 08, 2018, 12:12:45 pmI have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself. The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face". Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.Interesting! I didn't know that about Canada. You can fail every year in USA including kindergarten (unless that's changed since I was a kid). It also used to be like that till recently from what I have heard. When I was young I knew a bunch of kids who had failed grades and then did really well after they had repeated. I just don't see the benefit for the child. But what do I know... Just in a system that does that and see how unmotivated some students can be with no consequences for their actions.In elementary school, they called it "social promotion".Every few years it goes in or out of vouge depending on the latest (irreproducable) research.One of daughters repeated a year. It was good for her.
A recent variation on repeating is a new "grade" called Primary. It goes between kindergarten and first grade. They swore by it in the elementary of my old school back home.
I liked it better when I didn't see a million threads about American politics on the front page
No joke...
1) If you have a Skype number, and it forwards to your cellphone, the call and the forward count as 2 calls in a row for the purposes of bypassing "do not disturb" on an iPhone.2) if you have a Skype number from the USA, and live in Seoul, this is not a good thing.
Quote from: JNM on November 09, 2018, 07:34:56 am1) If you have a Skype number, and it forwards to your cellphone, the call and the forward count as 2 calls in a row for the purposes of bypassing "do not disturb" on an iPhone.2) if you have a Skype number from the USA, and live in Seoul, this is not a good thing.3) If you regularly use Skype in 2018, this is also not a good thing.