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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9060 on: November 06, 2018, 12:33:05 pm »
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Samuel L. Jackson is an actor, his entire career is based on him trying to get us to relate to the emotions and feelings that he portrays on screen. We relate, and we use the GIF to show others how we feel.

'Black people are not there just for your entertainment'. Oh, I mean, apart from all the ones who are.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9061 on: November 06, 2018, 01:05:13 pm »
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Samuel L. Jackson is an actor, his entire career is based on him trying to get us to relate to the emotions and feelings that he portrays on screen. We relate, and we use the GIF to show others how we feel.

'Black people are not there just for your entertainment'. Oh, I mean, apart from all the ones who are.

Don't you know that any entertainers that you see that are black are kept in cages and prodded with stun guns? Also, they get fed two bowls of oatmeal, a banana and 3 maxim sticks every day as rations.

They certainly aren't like white entertainers. They're basically indentured servants.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9062 on: November 06, 2018, 01:05:32 pm »
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Samuel L. Jackson is an actor, his entire career is based on him trying to get us to relate to the emotions and feelings that he portrays on screen. We relate, and we use the GIF to show others how we feel.

'Black people are not there just for your entertainment'. Oh, I mean, apart from all the ones who are.

She showed a picture of a white eoman with dreads.  Does that mean black people shouldn't straighten their hair?
She frowned on black people (and Michael Jackson)being usef in memes by white folk.  Does that mean black folk can't use memes of white people (and Rachel Dolezal) in memes?

I smell hypocrisy here....


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9063 on: November 06, 2018, 01:08:14 pm »
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Samuel L. Jackson is an actor, his entire career is based on him trying to get us to relate to the emotions and feelings that he portrays on screen. We relate, and we use the GIF to show others how we feel.

'Black people are not there just for your entertainment'. Oh, I mean, apart from all the ones who are.

She showed a picture of a white eoman with dreads.  Does that mean black people shouldn't straighten their hair?
She frowned on black people (and Michael Jackson)being usef in memes by white folk.  Does that mean black folk can't use memes of white people (and Rachel Dolezal) in memes?

I smell hypocrisy here....
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"Success kid", "Most Interesting Man", and "Willy Wonka": same!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9064 on: November 06, 2018, 04:42:44 pm »
Nearly 2 billion children – about 93 percent of the world’s children under the age of 15 – breathe toxic, putrid air that’s so polluted it puts their health and well-being at serious risk, a new report said.

Many of the children die: The United Nations' World Health Organization (WHO) estimates 600,000 children died in 2016 from lower respiratory infections caused by dirty air.

“Polluted air is poisoning millions of children and ruining their lives,” said Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the WHO. “This is inexcusable. Every child should be able to breathe clean air so they can grow and fulfill their full potential.”

Air pollution can affect children's cognitive ability and can also trigger asthma as well as cancer. Children who have been exposed to high levels of air pollution may be at greater risk for chronic illnesses such as cardiovascular disease later in life.

The problem is most severe in low- and middle-income countries, the report said, primarily nations in Africa, Southeast Asia, the eastern Mediterranean and western Pacific.

Park Won-soon, mayor of Seoul, South Korea, said "the WHO report clearly shows that adults' daily behaviors are threatening the health of innocent children. No single adult on the planet can be free from the pain suffered by our children due to air pollution."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/30/air-pollution-93-percent-worlds-children-breath-polluted-air/1811587002/


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« Reply #9065 on: November 06, 2018, 04:53:07 pm »
Nearly 2 billion children – about 93 percent of the world’s children under the age of 15 – breathe toxic, putrid air that’s so polluted it puts their health and well-being at serious risk, a new report said.

Many of the children die: The United Nations' World Health Organization (WHO) estimates 600,000 children died in 2016 from lower respiratory infections caused by dirty air.

“Polluted air is poisoning millions of children and ruining their lives,” said Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the WHO. “This is inexcusable. Every child should be able to breathe clean air so they can grow and fulfill their full potential.”

Air pollution can affect children's cognitive ability and can also trigger asthma as well as cancer. Children who have been exposed to high levels of air pollution may be at greater risk for chronic illnesses such as cardiovascular disease later in life.

The problem is most severe in low- and middle-income countries, the report said, primarily nations in Africa, Southeast Asia, the eastern Mediterranean and western Pacific.

Park Won-soon, mayor of Seoul, South Korea, said "the WHO report clearly shows that adults' daily behaviors are threatening the health of innocent children. No single adult on the planet can be free from the pain suffered by our children due to air pollution."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/30/air-pollution-93-percent-worlds-children-breath-polluted-air/1811587002/

There's a thread right below this on pollution


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9066 on: November 08, 2018, 09:53:03 am »
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.

My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.

Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.

WHY AM I HERE!?!?  :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?
« Last Edit: November 08, 2018, 09:59:22 am by JVPrice »
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9067 on: November 08, 2018, 10:13:08 am »
^ haha. well, i just had 2 days of open classes for my after school program. a grand total of 0 parents and 0 teachers showed up, which shows just how little anyone cares about any of it


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9068 on: November 08, 2018, 10:19:30 am »
^ haha. well, i just had 2 days of open classes for my after school program. a grand total of 0 parents and 0 teachers showed up, which shows just how little anyone cares about any of it

This year, my open class was cancelled. And my co-teacher said, it's pointless to change it to another date, because at our school, parents never show up for the foreign teachers class.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9069 on: November 08, 2018, 10:28:01 am »
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.

My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.

Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.

WHY AM I HERE!?!?  :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?

This is pretty standard. I mean, it's annoying. But it's not really surprising.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9070 on: November 08, 2018, 10:29:20 am »
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.

My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.

Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.

WHY AM I HERE!?!?  :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?

How is memorize and recite dialogue any different from your standard Korean "speaking test"?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9071 on: November 08, 2018, 10:42:06 am »
^ haha. well, i just had 2 days of open classes for my after school program. a grand total of 0 parents and 0 teachers showed up, which shows just how little anyone cares about any of it

Or they know you're the boss!  8)
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9072 on: November 08, 2018, 10:51:11 am »
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.

My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.

Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.

WHY AM I HERE!?!?  :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?

How is memorize and recite dialogue any different from your standard Korean "speaking test"?

It's not about them being different, it's the fact that I'm not even grading them. My CTs are doing everything. I thought the whole point of us NETs was to teach and evaluate listening and speaking skills. When you relegate that to the CTs, it really reinforces the fact that we're all just here for show.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9073 on: November 08, 2018, 11:31:52 am »
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.

My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.

Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.

WHY AM I HERE!?!?  :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?

How is memorize and recite dialogue any different from your standard Korean "speaking test"?

It's not about them being different, it's the fact that I'm not even grading them. My CTs are doing everything. I thought the whole point of us NETs was to teach and evaluate listening and speaking skills. When you relegate that to the CTs, it really reinforces the fact that we're all just here for show.

I hear you and realized after my 1st year that ESL teachers are pretty much just here for show (I still think you can make a positive impact on students)... after my 2nd year, I stopped feeling guilty and useless when I realized that Korean teachers are also here for show (they really have no authority and their grades mean nothing). My 3rd year, I realized that pretty much the entirety of Korean culture revolves around one giant show or farce.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9074 on: November 08, 2018, 11:36:25 am »
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.

My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.

Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.

WHY AM I HERE!?!?  :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?

How is memorize and recite dialogue any different from your standard Korean "speaking test"?

It's not about them being different, it's the fact that I'm not even grading them. My CTs are doing everything. I thought the whole point of us NETs was to teach and evaluate listening and speaking skills. When you relegate that to the CTs, it really reinforces the fact that we're all just here for show.

I hear you and realized after my 1st year that ESL teachers are pretty much just here for show (I still think you can make a positive impact on students)... after my 2nd year, I stopped feeling guilty and useless when I realized that Korean teachers are also here for show (they really have no authority and their grades mean nothing). My 3rd year, I realized that pretty much the entirety of Korean culture revolves around one giant show or farce.

I use the word "fiction", as a lawyer (not a librarian) would use it.

Just as everybody knows that the dead person's name is not "John Doe", everybody knows that you did not really learn enough to get an A in that class; just like everybody else!


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« Reply #9075 on: November 08, 2018, 12:12:45 pm »
I have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself.

The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face".

Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9076 on: November 08, 2018, 01:10:34 pm »
I have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself.

The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face".

Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.

Interesting! I didn't know that about Canada. You can fail every year in USA including kindergarten (unless that's changed since I was a kid).


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9077 on: November 08, 2018, 02:09:44 pm »
Ohhhh man.... OHHH MAN you would not belieeeve what I just found out.

My second school told me I won't be doing speaking tests... at all.

Instead, they've opted to have the students memorize and recite dialogue.

WHY AM I HERE!?!?  :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

This literally means that everything I've taught this semester won't even be put to the test. WHAT THE ACTUAL @#$%!?!?

As terrible as this sounds, I would love to be rid of the speaking test responsibility. The system here is too flawed to make them beneficial outside of teachers' personal use and assessment. I'd rather they eliminate them altogether and replace them with projects that require speaking, something that the students can work on in teams.

Like I remember reading somewhere that someone was lucky enough to have students conduct skits and plays using the dialogue that they've learned during the semester in lieu of the speaking exams. Students had to write their own scripts and use them in some kind of scenario that everyone should be able to follow. I'd totally be up for that if my school would let me... but they won't, lmao.

^ haha. well, i just had 2 days of open classes for my after school program. a grand total of 0 parents and 0 teachers showed up, which shows just how little anyone cares about any of it

Can also depend on the local community mindset about it, and on how much curiosity they have over how the students interact with the NET (or about the NET in general). In the ONE open class that I had ever, there were so many parents who came to watch my class that there was basically no standing room. We were essentially boxed in by all of the parents. Some of the KTs said that they could relax more during their open classes because I apparently stole everyone, lol.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2018, 02:12:57 pm by Chinguetti »


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9078 on: November 08, 2018, 02:21:42 pm »
I have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself.

The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face".

Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.

Interesting! I didn't know that about Canada. You can fail every year in USA including kindergarten (unless that's changed since I was a kid).

It also used to be like that till recently from what I have heard. When I was young I knew a bunch of kids who had failed grades and then did really well after they had repeated. I just don't see the benefit for the child. But what do I know... Just in a system that does that and see how unmotivated some students can be with no consequences for their actions.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #9079 on: November 08, 2018, 02:31:12 pm »
I have now learned that they do the same thing in Canada now that Korea does (Ontario at least). Not fail a kid for any reason ( At elementary I know. Not sure about mid/high ). Instead of keeping them behind to get the building blocks they need at their own pace. Why not to send them up to the next level and it will all just fix itself.

The only reason I could come to terms with it here is the hierarchy of age and parents "saving face".

Guess this is something relatively new but I have no idea why it would be implemented and who it is supposed to help.

Interesting! I didn't know that about Canada. You can fail every year in USA including kindergarten (unless that's changed since I was a kid).

It also used to be like that till recently from what I have heard. When I was young I knew a bunch of kids who had failed grades and then did really well after they had repeated. I just don't see the benefit for the child. But what do I know... Just in a system that does that and see how unmotivated some students can be with no consequences for their actions.
In elementary school, they called it "social promotion".
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