RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

The fire alarm just went off but since it wasn't scheduled all the teachers were staring at each other in disbelief and kept saying "진짜?"  They didn't know whether to go outside or not. A voice came over the intercom which I assumed was telling us to evacuate. We go into the hall and all the little 3rd graders are calmly putting their backpacks away, and a 6th grader is  handing out the day's announcements like nothing is happening. We had to shepherd them outside and stop all the kids who are just arriving at school from coming inside. The alarm is going off this whole time.

I don't know why the alarm went off  but hopefully this school never has a real emergency because they have no idea what to do if every little detail isn't planned.               

Haha, nice try. The rant is: many, many people in the world are overly confident and think they know everything, when in fact they are woefully ignorant. That extends to waygook.org as well. Tons of vapid fools (Obama haters, etc.) who don't know what they're talking about...but think they do.

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -Bertrand Russell

So, you do know who World Traveler is?

in the school i work in for my ASP job, the school calendar only goes until november. NOVEMBER. of course, asking why this is, and asking how i can find out the winter holiday dates was met with, "nobody knows". i still can't, even after so many years in korea, understand how it's apparently acceptable for businesses/school/****** everything to be so completely incompetant and unorganised

My school was under construction during summer break, and was supposed to be finished by the time school started.

We're two weeks into the semester and it's still not finished, and doesn't look like it'll be finished particularly soon. Somehow it seems like the closer they get to finishing the slower they work.

Every week it's the same story "Oh yes, next week construction will be finished."

I'm stuck in construction hell forever.

Americans think the economy is in far worse shape than it is.

The U.S. unemployment rate is only 4.9%, but 57% of Americans believe it's a lot higher than that, according to a new survey by the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University.

The general public has "extremely little factual knowledge" about the job market and labor force, Rutgers found.

It's another example of how experts on Wall Street and in Washington see the economy differently than the regular Joe. Many of the nation's top economic experts say that America is "near full employment." The unemployment rate has actually been at or below 5% for almost a year -- millions of people have found jobs in what is the best period of hiring since the late 1990s.

But regular people appear to have their doubts about how healthy America's employment picture is. Nearly a third of those survey by Rutgers believe unemployment is actually at 9%, or higher.

Republican candidate Donald Trump has tapped into this confusion. He has repeatedly called the official unemployment rate a "joke" and a even "hoax."

It's not just the unemployment rate that people get wrong. Americans also greatly overestimate the number of workers who are represented by unions and how many workers are foreign born.

First, Steelrails and now, ladies and gentlemen, we have World Traveler. I understand. I mean since eslcafe banned conversation, there has to be somewhere to go, right?

   

Yep, that's him. Now that Dave's has gone down the tubes, they've migrated over here. This guy is just flat out weird..he posts about how the economy back in the US is so good(even though many people on here aren't from the US) and that teachers here simply don't make enough. He actually thinks people are going to go, " Damn, that Life Improvement guy is right. I'll drop my easy no stress gig and go back to the US because the government(corrupt as ****) says that the unemployment figure is so low". Said nobody ever. My guess is that he stayed in Korea for years, went back home and is either unemployed or working some shit office job.  And probably lives back home with mommy. Sucks to be you, Life Improvement. PS Obama sucks donkey ass.

My rant: I have nothing to do during my deskwarming today, and there aren't alot of interesting new threads to read here. :(
It looked like it was going to rain this morning, so I left my Japanese books at home, after getting to my travel school, the sun comes out and it starts getting warm.

I've mentioned either: earlier, or on another thread about why I probably won't learn Korean anymore. I might try learn the Korean word for 'yes' though, I learnt 'okay' this morning (from my students) - this is so I can start doing the Korean thing of saying "Yes, ok-ok" in Korean back to them haha.

Are you ****** kidding me.  In addition to summer and winter English camps that everyone has to do, *I* suffered through having to do a spring camp in May, and just found out I have to do fall camp in September and October.  I get paid extra, but Jesus Christ whose ****** idea is this shit.

Man I knew I should've kept my goddamn mouth shut about Chuseok plans. Although my school is giving us the entire week (woo!), apparently since I'm leaving the country, two of those days will be deducted from my winter vacation (boo/uh, what?).

I'm very angry with myself for being transparent about this. From now on, every vacation will be taken to the DMZ as far as anyone is concerned.

Are you ****** kidding me.  In addition to summer and winter English camps that everyone has to do, *I* suffered through having to do a spring camp in May, and just found out I have to do fall camp in September and October.  I get paid extra, but Jesus Christ whose ****** idea is this shit.

If it's extra, don't you have to agree to it? wouldn't it be considered overtime? or is it in place of your normal lessons?

Are you ****** kidding me.  In addition to summer and winter English camps that everyone has to do, *I* suffered through having to do a spring camp in May, and just found out I have to do fall camp in September and October.  I get paid extra, but Jesus Christ whose ****** idea is this shit.

If it's extra, don't you have to agree to it? wouldn't it be considered overtime? or is it in place of your normal lessons?

It's extra and it is overtime.  It's 4:50 - 6:20.  I wasn't asked, I was told.

Americans think the economy is in far worse shape than it is.

The U.S. unemployment rate is only 4.9%, but 57% of Americans believe it's a lot higher than that, according to a new survey by the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University.

The general public has "extremely little factual knowledge" about the job market and labor force, Rutgers found.

It's another example of how experts on Wall Street and in Washington see the economy differently than the regular Joe. Many of the nation's top economic experts say that America is "near full employment." The unemployment rate has actually been at or below 5% for almost a year -- millions of people have found jobs in what is the best period of hiring since the late 1990s.

But regular people appear to have their doubts about how healthy America's employment picture is. Nearly a third of those survey by Rutgers believe unemployment is actually at 9%, or higher.

Republican candidate Donald Trump has tapped into this confusion. He has repeatedly called the official unemployment rate a "joke" and a even "hoax."

It's not just the unemployment rate that people get wrong. Americans also greatly overestimate the number of workers who are represented by unions and how many workers are foreign born.

First, Steelrails and now, ladies and gentlemen, we have World Traveler. I understand. I mean since eslcafe banned conversation, there has to be somewhere to go, right?

   

Yep, that's him. Now that Dave's has gone down the tubes, they've migrated over here. This guy is just flat out weird..he posts about how the economy back in the US is so good(even though many people on here aren't from the US) and that teachers here simply don't make enough. He actually thinks people are going to go, " Damn, that Life Improvement guy is right. I'll drop my easy no stress gig and go back to the US because the government(corrupt as ****) says that the unemployment figure is so low". Said nobody ever. My guess is that he stayed in Korea for years, went back home and is either unemployed or working some shit office job.  And probably lives back home with mommy. Sucks to be you, Life Improvement. PS Obama sucks donkey ass.

The long post about how good the economy is in the states tipped me off.

Are you ****** kidding me.  In addition to summer and winter English camps that everyone has to do, *I* suffered through having to do a spring camp in May, and just found out I have to do fall camp in September and October.  I get paid extra, but Jesus Christ whose ****** idea is this shit.

If it's extra, don't you have to agree to it? wouldn't it be considered overtime? or is it in place of your normal lessons?

I'm pretty sure she has the right to refuse, but a lot of schools will have you believe otherwise. They make it difficult to say "no" and then throw a tantrum when you do it anyway, so a lot of teachers just go with it to maintain a good working relationship with the school.

My secondary school tried to pull that crap on me last year but my main school's coT got involved and he wouldn't let them do it. They argued for two days over it, got really heated -- my coT even hung up on them once.

I was lucky that I had such an awesome (and senior) coT.

Are you ****** kidding me.  In addition to summer and winter English camps that everyone has to do, *I* suffered through having to do a spring camp in May, and just found out I have to do fall camp in September and October.  I get paid extra, but Jesus Christ whose ****** idea is this shit.

If it's extra, don't you have to agree to it? wouldn't it be considered overtime? or is it in place of your normal lessons?

It's extra and it is overtime.  It's 4:50 - 6:20.  I wasn't asked, I was told.

Then in the contract, you should be able to turn it down right? I'm pretty sure in mine it says - overtime has to be agreed to by both parties.

Are you ****** kidding me.  In addition to summer and winter English camps that everyone has to do, *I* suffered through having to do a spring camp in May, and just found out I have to do fall camp in September and October.  I get paid extra, but Jesus Christ whose ****** idea is this shit.

If it's extra, don't you have to agree to it? wouldn't it be considered overtime? or is it in place of your normal lessons?

I'm pretty sure she has the right to refuse, but a lot of schools will have you believe otherwise. They make it difficult to say "no" and then throw a tantrum when you do it anyway, so a lot of teachers just go with it to maintain a good working relationship with the school.

My secondary school tried to pull that crap on me last year but my main school's coT got involved and he wouldn't let them do it. They argued for two days over it, got really heated -- my coT even hung up on them once.

I was lucky that I had such an awesome (and senior) coT.

Yea, I have heard a lot of stories like that. :(
I'd just flat out refuse, I have very little free time as it is (outside of school) - If it was during my school day, I'd be happy to do it, most days I only have 3 classes, tuesday's I have 6, so I have lots of time during the day I could do it, but my time is my time.

Are you ****** kidding me.  In addition to summer and winter English camps that everyone has to do, *I* suffered through having to do a spring camp in May, and just found out I have to do fall camp in September and October.  I get paid extra, but Jesus Christ whose ****** idea is this shit.

If it's extra, don't you have to agree to it? wouldn't it be considered overtime? or is it in place of your normal lessons?

It's extra and it is overtime.  It's 4:50 - 6:20.  I wasn't asked, I was told.

Then in the contract, you should be able to turn it down right? I'm pretty sure in mine it says - overtime has to be agreed to by both parties.

if it's public school they can make you teach up to 26 hours per week before you can refuse. so you can be made to do 4 hours of mandatory overtime per week, but of course they have to pay you for it.

anything over 26 hours and you have the right to refuse.

I inherited supplementary classes due to the previous teacher agreeing to teach them, so they said I needed to continue.

I hate these classes most of the time.

I would gladly have them keep the extra 300-400,000 each month, as every lesson is a "one-off" which, as all of you know too well, is a complete waste of time.

I miss the days when schools were so big that I would only have 2-3 preps a week and could teach the same lesson 8+ times.

The whole camp will be about 4 hours extra per week.  Honestly if they did ask me I probably would've said yes since I still have time to get to my Wednesday night plans.  I'm just so sick of camp.  It's so ridiculous.  No one likes it.

if it's public school they can make you teach up to 26 hours per week before you can refuse. so you can be made to do 4 hours of mandatory overtime per week, but of course they have to pay you for it.

anything over 26 hours and you have the right to refuse.

Does this go for contracts for EPIK teachers, too? I'll have to look at mine when I get home, but my coT last year was pretty adamant that my secondary school could not force me to work any amount of overtime. He fought so hard for me (and won).

I feel like I've been trying to lose my belly fat for like 3 years. It wont budge! everywhere else I lose weight and I don't know what gives. I eat healthy food most of the time, I workout 5 or 6 days a week, some strength training with Pilates and cardio with H.I.I.T training. I'm.  So.  Frustrated. 

if it's public school they can make you teach up to 26 hours per week before you can refuse. so you can be made to do 4 hours of mandatory overtime per week, but of course they have to pay you for it.

anything over 26 hours and you have the right to refuse.

Does this go for contracts for EPIK teachers, too? I'll have to look at mine when I get home, but my coT last year was pretty adamant that my secondary school could not force me to work any amount of overtime. He fought so hard for me (and won).

It doesn't as far as I know. I'm with EPIK and my school tried to pull the same thing, basically telling me that the school was going to have a "weekend english summer camp". They threw temper tantrums when I refused, but there was nothing in the contract saying they could force me to work that overtime.