RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

It is the ranting forum, but this wasn't your rant. This was your response to someone's rant. Why don't you take your bigotry away and give people a break from your incessant negativity and unhelpful bitterness? Did you actually offer anything constructive? Obviously things should slide on the rant forum, but there's a line where you can't expect to not have some pushback.

For someone who whines and moans that Koreans stereotype foreigners, you sure like to stereotype Koreans.

Anyways, hopefully the residents of OP's building can get lucky and somehow track down the offender, and then the landlord can boot them.

I tell it how i see it.  Everyday someone almost totals my car because they make no effort to accommodate others on the road.  Everyday i see people smoking where there are no smoking signs.  Everyday i see cars parked on crossings, pavements or blocking entrances.  Everyday i see people littering, sometimes withing 10 metres of a bin.  Everyday i see human residue in the form of vomit or piss against a building.  Everyday i hear people screaming at each other in the street.  Tell me, do you not consider this selfish?  I lived in the UK for 27 years, and i saw all those behaviours from time to time, but never daily, and never in tandem.

I get sick of having someone push past me as i exit a building, or an elevator.  The concept of "exit before entrance" means nothing here, especially when negotiating a T junction, or a car park entrance.  I get sick of making emergency stops, because a driver will not wait his turn at a junction, and pulls out causing me to fear for my baby in the back seat.  **** your hazard lights, you nearly caused an accident.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

Or the guy the slams on his brakes without warning and makes a turn without indicating.  Or the guy who parks in the turning lane because he doesn't want to walk to the post office, thus causing those behind him to forcibly merge into the left lane.  Or the guy who refuses to indicate, so you wait at a junction for him to drive past you, and instead turns and you realise you could have gone earlier.  Or the guy who will overtake you at a frightening speed only to slam on his brakes as soon as he gets in front as there is a speed camera, so you nearly have an accident.  Then there are the breakdown drivers who think they can do as they please.

You want my rant, here it is.

A Korean's world ends at his nose!

I never have seen anyone in Korea beat up random people on the street and take their wallet. Nor street gangs trashing neighborhoods. Nor people beating and occasionally killing people over 22 people chasing a ball.

I'd call that shit pretty selfish. I think you have Korean-style blinders on when it comes to your own country.

Park in a disabled parking spot in the west, or on a crossing, you get a fine and probably towed if it's there long enough.  No two ways about it, no arguing.  So you don't do it or if you do then that teaches you not to do it again....  You don't need your parents or friends to tell you about that.  What part of doing this kind of stupid parking is not to do with selfishness?  Or 'cultures' as you call it.

You know, there's more to selfishness, than just those two criteria.

Also, those are shitty individuals.

Again, for people who bitch and moan about being steotyped, you sure do love to stereotype.

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

Oh please, you make it sound like Biff Tannen's Hill Valley or some shit.

I won't even get into the bigotry of the first part.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

Martin seems to have not noticed selfish things evident like....

-not moving out of the way of ambulances on the road (I would hate to be in any serious condition where I'd have to rely on getting to a hospital fast by ambulance)
-constantly parking in the most ridiculous places, like entrances to car parks, on street corners, across pedestrian crossings, disabled parking spots etc.
-pushing in queues because you're older and male or just generally pushing past people(something you'd get a fast rebuke and possibly a smack in most other civilised countries)
etc
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A few years back my fiend and I were waiting for an elevator.  We wanted to go down 3 floors.  When it came, it was full, several people refused to make eye contact.  The guy right at the front waved at use to say "no" while frantically pushing the close button.  We had to wait for the next one.



My friend was in a wheelchair!!!!

I've seen that in subway stations. All the older people get on first and leave no room for the wheelchair person who was also waiting with them.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass.

German's reaction to ambulance..



In Japan, the same....(picture too big)

In some countries you give way, in others you don't. I guess its not even a cultural thing but people not being used to common sense or human decency . At home in the UK, everyone way to the ambulance but in plenty of other countries, the ambulance is stuck in traffic. I am unsure about Korea...I have not seen many ambulances with the sirens on.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass.

Reminds me of the poster who once complained about Koreans honking at him when he was at a red light, but was unaware that Korea has a "Turn right on red" law and that blocking the right lane is generally considered a dick move in any country/state that has "turn right on red".

I lived in a "Turn right on Red" state and we'd get the same kind of "Why are divers here such jerks?" from people from out of state who didn't know the local rules of the road.

I think with Korean ambulances, if they aren't honking and the siren is blaring, people generally don't give way. I've still seen selfish asshats in that case, but far less.

Given how quickly some people call for ambulances over really minor injuries, it's not surprising that if the ambulance is just meandering up the road with it's lights on, that peopel don't give way.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass.

The context is that those drivers are d1cks.

PS There is no defined "slow lane" in Korea.

In Sligo's defense, given Korea's labyrinthine streets, he might have had an upcoming turn somewhere nearby.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass.

The context is that those drivers are d1cks.

PS There is no defined "slow lane" in Korea.

Sorry, but I learned to drive from scratch here, and you are wrong. There are passing lanes and slower lanes, just like in western countries. Unfortunately, people don't use passing lanes properly in Korea, and instead hold long lines of cars up because they think they're special.

Here's some useful info on how to drive on the expressway in Korea. It explains how to use passing lanes. https://www.koroad.or.kr/en_web/view/drvGuide3.do

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass

Reminds me of the poster who once complained about Koreans honking at him when he was at a red light, but was unaware that Korea has a "Turn right on red" law and that blocking the right lane is generally considered a dick move in any country/state that has "turn right on red".

I lived in a "Turn right on Red" state and we'd get the same kind of "Why are divers here such jerks?" from people from out of state who didn't know the local rules of the road.

You are not allowed to turn right if either road is showing a green man, but you either hear honk honk honk, or they drive around you as you wait to turn, and they nearly hit those crossing.

As for 2 lanes, often a car in the fast lane isnt going fast enough, so drivers attempt ro undertake by switching to the other lane only to see my car and demand i move.  Why? If they want to overtake, do it on the left not the right!

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass

Reminds me of the poster who once complained about Koreans honking at him when he was at a red light, but was unaware that Korea has a "Turn right on red" law and that blocking the right lane is generally considered a dick move in any country/state that has "turn right on red".

I lived in a "Turn right on Red" state and we'd get the same kind of "Why are divers here such jerks?" from people from out of state who didn't know the local rules of the road.

You are not allowed to turn right if either road is showing a green man, but you either hear honk honk honk, or they drive around you as you wait to turn, and they nearly hit those crossing.

As for 2 lanes, often a car in the fast lane isnt going fast enough, so drivers attempt ro undertake by switching to the other lane only to see my car and demand i move.  Why? If they want to overtake, do it on the left not the right!

If people are honking at you to go faster while you're driving in the slow lane, they are in the wrong. If people are honking at you when you're holding up traffic in the fast lane, you are in the wrong.

The reason people undertake is because too many people drive slowly in the fast lane. The worst offenders are middle aged men driving pickups and women chatting on their phone with no awareness of a world outside their own head.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass.

The context is that those drivers are d1cks.

PS There is no defined "slow lane" in Korea.

Sorry, but I learned to drive from scratch here, and you are wrong. There are passing lanes and slower lanes, just like in western countries. Unfortunately, people don't use passing lanes properly in Korea, and instead hold long lines of cars up because they think they're special.

Here's some useful info on how to drive on the expressway in Korea. It explains how to use passing lanes. https://www.koroad.or.kr/en_web/view/drvGuide3.do

Yes, in theory, there are overtaking lanes and slow lanes, with the middle lanes being for cruising. But in Korea, the majority of drivers have poor lane discipline which calls for overtaking in all lanes.

You learned to drive here? Must suck that all that knowledge matters not when driving for real here.

Sorry, but I learned to drive from scratch here,

Good God.
Are you as bad at driving as every other cretin on the roads here?

Sorry, but I learned to drive from scratch here,

Good God.
Are you as bad at driving as every other cretin on the roads here?

How do you define "bad"? I have enough awareness to pull over to the right when someone needs to pass me at a higher speed, but that situation doesn't occur too often.

Sorry, but I learned to drive from scratch here,

Good God.
Are you as bad at driving as every other cretin on the roads here?

How do you define "bad"? I have enough awareness to pull over to the right when someone needs to pass me at a higher speed, but that situation doesn't occur too often.

A lot of @ssholes on the highway will drive up to you at speed, way beyond the speed limit and rather than wait for you to move they will attempt to pass from the other lane and then cut back to your lane causing you to hit the brakes.

Sometimes, you can't pull over because there happens to be slower vehicles in the other lane but the @ssholes think they can weave in and out like F1 drivers causing a dangerous situation.

Sorry, but I learned to drive from scratch here,

Good God.
Are you as bad at driving as every other cretin on the roads here?

How do you define "bad"? I have enough awareness to pull over to the right when someone needs to pass me at a higher speed, but that situation doesn't occur too often.

A lot of @ssholes on the highway will drive up to you at speed, way beyond the speed limit and rather than wait for you to move they will attempt to pass from the other lane and then cut back to your lane causing you to hit the brakes.

Sometimes, you can't pull over because there happens to be slower vehicles in the other lane but the @ssholes think they can weave in and out like F1 drivers causing a dangerous situation.

My theory to makes Koreans more careful at driving is to make them all drive manuals.  Automatics make it too easy to be a shitier driver than they already are.

True that! I learned on a manual but I also learned how to drive safely. Driving a manual means that they [Korean drivers] would need to concentrate more on the road but given that they don't already check mirrors and indicate BEFORE changing lanes then I foresee more accidents. Also, how can they hold their phone and change gears at the same time?

Sorry, but I learned to drive from scratch here,

Good God.
Are you as bad at driving as every other cretin on the roads here?

How do you define "bad"? I have enough awareness to pull over to the right when someone needs to pass me at a higher speed, but that situation doesn't occur too often.

A lot of @ssholes on the highway will drive up to you at speed, way beyond the speed limit and rather than wait for you to move they will attempt to pass from the other lane and then cut back to your lane causing you to hit the brakes.

Sometimes, you can't pull over because there happens to be slower vehicles in the other lane but the @ssholes think they can weave in and out like F1 drivers causing a dangerous situation.

There are drivers who just will not budge at all, driving the same speed as the person adjacent to them when they could easily pull in to the slow lane to let you by. I'm talking about a wilful disregard for traffic behind or complete lack of awareness of the road. I will sometimes undertake such drivers and cut back in sharply, but only if they're really being obnoxious. It's a way of saying "screw you", I suppose.

Driving to my travel school this morning, one driver drove in the fast lane at exactly the same speed as a tire delivery vehicle in the slow lane, with no thought for anyone but himself. This continued for the entire journey on the expressway, which was not exactly a long one, but still at least one exit to another. I was left wishing I drove a literal tank to blow that scumbag off the road.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass

Reminds me of the poster who once complained about Koreans honking at him when he was at a red light, but was unaware that Korea has a "Turn right on red" law and that blocking the right lane is generally considered a dick move in any country/state that has "turn right on red".

I lived in a "Turn right on Red" state and we'd get the same kind of "Why are divers here such jerks?" from people from out of state who didn't know the local rules of the road.

You are not allowed to turn right if either road is showing a green man, but you either hear honk honk honk, or they drive around you as you wait to turn, and they nearly hit those crossing.

As for 2 lanes, often a car in the fast lane isnt going fast enough, so drivers attempt ro undertake by switching to the other lane only to see my car and demand i move.  Why? If they want to overtake, do it on the left not the right!

In this case, the person wasn't following the green crossing. They simply didn't know "turn right on red" existed. This happens in the states as well. Some drivers aren't aware, and some drivers turn right on red where it's illegal because they forget about the law change. It's an innocent mistake, but it's not always Place's X drivers are aholes.

And as I said, in your case if you're in the left lane, because of the way Korean roads are laid down, you can have a legitimate reason for being in the left lane and still slowing things down because you have to shift over for the next light or something. There are always explanations we need to consider before we assume someone is a rude driver.

Martin, you do not drive in Korea.  Therefore you have no point of reference here.  So stop commenting on stuff you clearly have NO idea about.  Again.

What are you talking about? I've been driving here for ages.

Just because someone has a different opinion than you, doesn't mean they have no point of reference.