RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

I also don't like it when Koreans try to treat you the same in some regards, but different in others. It can be really annoying. We foreigners don't just accept things (especially crap) from people and bear with it.

In fairness, we often treat them the same sometimes and differently in others, often subconciously. There's times to let them know and there's also times to let it slide.

Experienced something like this at the beginning of the year. A close friend of mine who I'd known for 7 years had become some kind of monster I couldn't recognize (my other friends saw it too). I blame mental issues, because the behavior made absolutely no sense from a logical standpoint.

I also don't like it when Koreans try to treat you the same in some regards, but different in others. It can be really annoying. We foreigners don't just accept things (especially crap) from people and bear with it.

Yeah, I've had to cut friends and family from my life because of the same thing, but in those instances they treated pretty much everyone like crap. Sometimes it was because of separate issues that took them down destructive paths that they refused to get help for, but sometimes it's because they've always been toxic assholes. 

I was basically ranting about folks in the latter category. The worst ones are the two-faced who wait to get a feel for who they think you are before making a move. I find it worse here because the hierarchical social structure kind of encourages and reinforces bullying, while a lack of understanding in cultural differences has people misreading and therefore miscalculating others and how they expect them to behave. Always seems to come as a shock to them, but it's like... I'm not ****** Korean. You can't read me the same way you do a Korean, it's not going to work out the way you expect, lol.

Another reason why I feel like I should move on to a different area. Too many of the wrong kind of folks have gotten too comfortable where I'm currently assigned, and I hate having to remind them that I'm not their punching bag.

I thought I'd finally found a nice place to live.  Upgraded from a one room to a brand new officetel.  Lovely thick walls.  Bliss.

I can hear my upstairs neighbour walking around.  A little bit annoying but it comes with the territory I suppose.  Although I really wish they would walk on the balls of the feet instead of their heels.  I do that.  It's a considerate thing to do when living in an apartment.  But I can live with it.

But now I can smell smoke in my apartment.  Someone around me is smoking and that really pisses me off.  The buidling managers know about it because they've put up signs everywhere.  I've written notes and put them up (as well as other people).  The depressing thing is that the smokers won't stop.  Why would they?  There's no incentive for them to stop, safe in the knowledge there's no punishment.

The sad reality of apartment living 

I thought I'd finally found a nice place to live.  Upgraded from a one room to a brand new officetel.  Lovely thick walls.  Bliss.

I can hear my upstairs neighbour walking around.  A little bit annoying but it comes with the territory I suppose.  Although I really wish they would walk on the balls of the feet instead of their heels.  I do that.  It's a considerate thing to do when living in an apartment.  But I can live with it.

But now I can smell smoke in my apartment.  Someone around me is smoking and that really pisses me off.  The buidling managers know about it because they've put up signs everywhere.  I've written notes and put them up (as well as other people).  The depressing thing is that the smokers won't stop.  Why would they?  There's no incentive for them to stop, safe in the knowledge there's no punishment.

The sad reality of apartment living 

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

Oh please, you make it sound like Biff Tannen's Hill Valley or some shit.

I won't even get into the bigotry of the first part.

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

Oh please, you make it sound like Biff Tannen's Hill Valley or some shit.

I won't even get into the bigotry of the first part.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

Oh please, you make it sound like Biff Tannen's Hill Valley or some shit.

I won't even get into the bigotry of the first part.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

Is... it it possible that you're both taking extreme positions, and the reality may be somewhere in the middle?

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

Oh please, you make it sound like Biff Tannen's Hill Valley or some shit.

I won't even get into the bigotry of the first part.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

Is... it it possible that you're both taking extreme positions, and the reality may be somewhere in the middle?

Very possibly, but i thought there was an unspoken rule that Steelrails keeps his nose out of this thread, or at the very least declines to wave the flag!

Is... it it possible that you're both taking extreme positions, and the reality may be somewhere in the middle?

When's your birthday? hahaha

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

Oh please, you make it sound like Biff Tannen's Hill Valley or some shit.

I won't even get into the bigotry of the first part.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

Martin seems to have not noticed selfish things evident like....

-not moving out of the way of ambulances on the road (I would hate to be in any serious condition where I'd have to rely on getting to a hospital fast by ambulance)
-constantly parking in the most ridiculous places, like entrances to car parks, on street corners, across pedestrian crossings, disabled parking spots etc.
-pushing in queues because you're older and male or just generally pushing past people(something you'd get a fast rebuke and possibly a smack in most other civilised countries)
etc
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A few years back my fiend and I were waiting for an elevator.  We wanted to go down 3 floors.  When it came, it was full, several people refused to make eye contact.  The guy right at the front waved at use to say "no" while frantically pushing the close button.  We had to wait for the next one.



My friend was in a wheelchair!!!!

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

It is the ranting forum, but this wasn't your rant. This was your response to someone's rant. Why don't you take your bigotry away and give people a break from your incessant negativity and unhelpful bitterness? Did you actually offer anything constructive? Obviously things should slide on the rant forum, but there's a line where you can't expect to not have some pushback.

For someone who whines and moans that Koreans stereotype foreigners, you sure like to stereotype Koreans.

Anyways, hopefully the residents of OP's building can get lucky and somehow track down the offender, and then the landlord can boot them.

Martin seems to have not noticed selfish things evident like....

Martin seems to recall having noticed a bunch of selfish things in his home country and other countries and amongst foreigners in Korea, of varying nationalities.

Martin seems to recall the lessons he learned in school, from his parents, and from his friends, that you say that individual is selfish and you don't stereotype people or judge their ethnicity/country.

Martin also seems to recall various lessons in life that we're often unaware of our own selfish behvaiors, whether as individuals, or if you think of such things, as cultures.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

It is the ranting forum, but this wasn't your rant. This was your response to someone's rant. Why don't you take your bigotry away and give people a break from your incessant negativity and unhelpful bitterness? Did you actually offer anything constructive? Obviously things should slide on the rant forum, but there's a line where you can't expect to not have some pushback.

For someone who whines and moans that Koreans stereotype foreigners, you sure like to stereotype Koreans.

Anyways, hopefully the residents of OP's building can get lucky and somehow track down the offender, and then the landlord can boot them.

I tell it how i see it.  Everyday someone almost totals my car because they make no effort to accommodate others on the road.  Everyday i see people smoking where there are no smoking signs.  Everyday i see cars parked on crossings, pavements or blocking entrances.  Everyday i see people littering, sometimes withing 10 metres of a bin.  Everyday i see human residue in the form of vomit or piss against a building.  Everyday i hear people screaming at each other in the street.  Tell me, do you not consider this selfish?  I lived in the UK for 27 years, and i saw all those behaviours from time to time, but never daily, and never in tandem.

I get sick of having someone push past me as i exit a building, or an elevator.  The concept of "exit before entrance" means nothing here, especially when negotiating a T junction, or a car park entrance.  I get sick of making emergency stops, because a driver will not wait his turn at a junction, and pulls out causing me to fear for my baby in the back seat.  **** your hazard lights, you nearly caused an accident.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

Or the guy the slams on his brakes without warning and makes a turn without indicating.  Or the guy who parks in the turning lane because he doesn't want to walk to the post office, thus causing those behind him to forcibly merge into the left lane.  Or the guy who refuses to indicate, so you wait at a junction for him to drive past you, and instead turns and you realise you could have gone earlier.  Or the guy who will overtake you at a frightening speed only to slam on his brakes as soon as he gets in front as there is a speed camera, so you nearly have an accident.  Then there are the breakdown drivers who think they can do as they please.

You want my rant, here it is.

A Korean's world ends at his nose!

Martin seems to recall having noticed a bunch of selfish things in his home country and other countries and amongst foreigners in Korea, of varying nationalities.

Martin seems to recall the lessons he learned in school, from his parents, and from his friends, that you say that individual is selfish and you don't stereotype people or judge their ethnicity/country.

Martin also seems to recall various lessons in life that we're often unaware of our own selfish behvaiors, whether as individuals, or if you think of such things, as cultures.

Martin is talking in the third person REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Also, if you're gonna do it, you should use 'Tino:
'Tino is ... and so on.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

It is the ranting forum, but this wasn't your rant. This was your response to someone's rant. Why don't you take your bigotry away and give people a break from your incessant negativity and unhelpful bitterness? Did you actually offer anything constructive? Obviously things should slide on the rant forum, but there's a line where you can't expect to not have some pushback.

For someone who whines and moans that Koreans stereotype foreigners, you sure like to stereotype Koreans.

Anyways, hopefully the residents of OP's building can get lucky and somehow track down the offender, and then the landlord can boot them.

I tell it how i see it.  Everyday someone almost totals my car because they make no effort to accommodate others on the road.  Everyday i see people smoking where there are no smoking signs.  Everyday i see cars parked on crossings, pavements or blocking entrances.  Everyday i see people littering, sometimes withing 10 metres of a bin.  Everyday i see human residue in the form of vomit or piss against a building.  Everyday i hear people screaming at each other in the street.  Tell me, do you not consider this selfish?  I lived in the UK for 27 years, and i saw all those behaviours from time to time, but never daily, and never in tandem.

I get sick of having someone push past me as i exit a building, or an elevator.  The concept of "exit before entrance" means nothing here, especially when negotiating a T junction, or a car park entrance.  I get sick of making emergency stops, because a driver will not wait his turn at a junction, and pulls out causing me to fear for my baby in the back seat.  **** your hazard lights, you nearly caused an accident.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

Or the guy the slams on his brakes without warning and makes a turn without indicating.  Or the guy who parks in the turning lane because he doesn't want to walk to the post office, thus causing those behind him to forcibly merge into the left lane.  Or the guy who refuses to indicate, so you wait at a junction for him to drive past you, and instead turns and you realise you could have gone earlier.  Or the guy who will overtake you at a frightening speed only to slam on his brakes as soon as he gets in front as there is a speed camera, so you nearly have an accident.  Then there are the breakdown drivers who think they can do as they please.

You want my rant, here it is.

A Korean's world ends at his nose!

I never have seen anyone in Korea beat up random people on the street and take their wallet. Nor street gangs trashing neighborhoods. Nor people beating and occasionally killing people over 22 people chasing a ball.

I'd call that shit pretty selfish. I think you have Korean-style blinders on when it comes to your own country.

Park in a disabled parking spot in the west, or on a crossing, you get a fine and probably towed if it's there long enough.  No two ways about it, no arguing.  So you don't do it or if you do then that teaches you not to do it again....  You don't need your parents or friends to tell you about that.  What part of doing this kind of stupid parking is not to do with selfishness?  Or 'cultures' as you call it.

You know, there's more to selfishness, than just those two criteria.

Also, those are shitty individuals.

Again, for people who bitch and moan about being steotyped, you sure do love to stereotype.

A Korean man's world ends at his nose!  Selfishness is the order here, and rules are only followed when someone is watching.

Oh please, you make it sound like Biff Tannen's Hill Valley or some shit.

I won't even get into the bigotry of the first part.

how about you don't get into any part, of any thread, and take your patriotic bollocks away with you, and give people a break from your broken record nationalistic nonesense?

Martin seems to have not noticed selfish things evident like....

-not moving out of the way of ambulances on the road (I would hate to be in any serious condition where I'd have to rely on getting to a hospital fast by ambulance)
-constantly parking in the most ridiculous places, like entrances to car parks, on street corners, across pedestrian crossings, disabled parking spots etc.
-pushing in queues because you're older and male or just generally pushing past people(something you'd get a fast rebuke and possibly a smack in most other civilised countries)
etc
tc
c

A few years back my fiend and I were waiting for an elevator.  We wanted to go down 3 floors.  When it came, it was full, several people refused to make eye contact.  The guy right at the front waved at use to say "no" while frantically pushing the close button.  We had to wait for the next one.



My friend was in a wheelchair!!!!

I've seen that in subway stations. All the older people get on first and leave no room for the wheelchair person who was also waiting with them.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass.

German's reaction to ambulance..



In Japan, the same....(picture too big)

In some countries you give way, in others you don't. I guess its not even a cultural thing but people not being used to common sense or human decency . At home in the UK, everyone way to the ambulance but in plenty of other countries, the ambulance is stuck in traffic. I am unsure about Korea...I have not seen many ambulances with the sirens on.

I get sick of drivers driving 1 metre behind my car, and flashing lights to make me move, because there is a car in the adjacent lane.  This basically means i cannot hit my brakes, as the **** behind me will plow into me.  What gives him the right to demand i move for him?  Why should i drive at an unsafe speed just because he wants to pass?

What is the context for this? If you're driving adjacent another car at the same speed, and you're in the passing lane, then you are in the wrong. The same if you're driving slightly faster than vehicles in the slower lane and never pulling in to let faster vehicles pass.

Reminds me of the poster who once complained about Koreans honking at him when he was at a red light, but was unaware that Korea has a "Turn right on red" law and that blocking the right lane is generally considered a dick move in any country/state that has "turn right on red".

I lived in a "Turn right on Red" state and we'd get the same kind of "Why are divers here such jerks?" from people from out of state who didn't know the local rules of the road.