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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8500 on: July 18, 2018, 09:03:18 am »
Yeah, I don't get it, either. Some people are just that socially oblivious, but most of the ones I've encountered aren't oblivious -- they're just brazen because they're either 1) disrespectful of others (especially of non-Korean ethnicities/nationalities) and believe they can get away with bad or inconsiderate behavior towards them as long as they do it with a smile, or 2) they've got the wrong idea about what non-Korean cultures are like, and ignore social cues to the contrary because they've tunnel-visioned on that idea.

I've also both read and been told about how some asshats have actually yanked earphones out of people's ears. No idea what I'd do if someone did this to me, the very idea pisses me off so much that I don't know if I could stay polite after that.

Anyway, if it keeps happening to you, work on your resting bitch face. 100% tested and approved.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8501 on: July 18, 2018, 09:09:05 am »
Yeah, I don't get it, either. Some people are just that socially oblivious, but most of the ones I've encountered aren't oblivious -- they're just brazen because they're either 1) disrespectful of others (especially of non-Korean ethnicities/nationalities) and believe they can get away with bad or inconsiderate behavior towards them as long as they do it with a smile, or 2) they've got the wrong idea about what non-Korean cultures are like, and ignore social cues to the contrary because they've tunnel-visioned on that idea.

I've also both read and been told about how some asshats have actually yanked earphones out of people's ears. No idea what I'd do if someone did this to me, the very idea pisses me off so much that I don't know if I could stay polite after that.

Anyway, if it keeps happening to you, work on your resting bitch face. 100% tested and approved.

RBF in combination with death glare.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8502 on: July 18, 2018, 11:11:57 am »
Yeah, I don't get it, either. Some people are just that socially oblivious, but most of the ones I've encountered aren't oblivious -- they're just brazen because they're either 1) disrespectful of others (especially of non-Korean ethnicities/nationalities) and believe they can get away with bad or inconsiderate behavior towards them as long as they do it with a smile, or 2) they've got the wrong idea about what non-Korean cultures are like, and ignore social cues to the contrary because they've tunnel-visioned on that idea.

I've also both read and been told about how some asshats have actually yanked earphones out of people's ears. No idea what I'd do if someone did this to me, the very idea pisses me off so much that I don't know if I could stay polite after that.

Anyway, if it keeps happening to you, work on your resting bitch face. 100% tested and approved.
i asked my wife if anyone would do this to a korean citizen and i got a solid "no"

it's a pretty obvious social cue not to disturb someone if they are listening to music -- and if someone is sleeping, too...

it's always the older generation, though. probably the whole "i'm older so i can do what i want" attitude. i don't believe for a second they are socially oblivious -- just they think the rules don't apply to them


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8503 on: July 18, 2018, 11:30:11 am »
Hopefully this is the right place to bitch about co workers.
Generally my co teachers are a massive help. I have three, one for fourth, fifth and sixth grade. Sadly my sixth grade co teacher took early maternity leave about four months ago. I ended up with a temporary co teacher who is completely inept.
She lets students talk over her, can't effectively discipline students and never even asks what we're going to do before a lesson. I've had four months of being responsible for planning out the semester, preparing all lesson material and figuring out how to present it without a co teacher to help translate because her English level is lower than a lot of my students.
She actually makes my job more difficult by walking around while i'm presenting vocabulary, the rules of a game or playing a song while the students complete a gapfill and then she just chats in Korean which is really distracting. She almost never speaks in English during lessons. My ideal lesson these days are the ones where she stands at the back subtly using her phone. I've also noticed that some of the work she does during her solo lessons seems very low level.. like 3rd or 4th grade color the picture kind of stuff. The classroom is often messier as well so I end up tidying frequently after her lessons end. She also has a terrible habit of jamming the photocopier and then just walking away... which isn't a great tactic as its jammed with her crappy worksheets.
I'm proud to say that three of my sixth grade classes are doing very well overall but the other two are noticeably worse in terms of their behavior.
At this point i'm feeling burnt out and can only hope that I never have the misfortune of working with her again after the semester ends next week.
Rant finished....

I have a similar situation, but with my 5th grade coteacher. First coteacher was a temp coteacher. She was absolutely amazing. We were around the same age (both on the younger end), and she spoke almost perfect English. We would plan lessons together and I knew that her lessons would be excellent with or without me. Kids excelled, and, despite being notoriously the worst behaved grade in the school, they behaved quite well in our classes.

In the middle of the semester, the original (full time) teacher returned. She's back just to finish out the semester and get retirement. She's the sweetest person in the world, but she can't speak English to save her life, and she can't control the students. In just a month, all of the classes have devolved. They don't listen, they don't participate, and they don't retain anything they've learned.

I've instituted a 3-strike system. They get a tally mark on the board if they're loud or not listening (the whole class, or just one person), and 3 tallies means we stop whatever we're doing and they have to copy and translate lines in silence for the rest of class. They're still not as good as they were with the temp teacher, but they are behaving better.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8504 on: July 18, 2018, 01:58:28 pm »
Today is draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa gging.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8505 on: July 18, 2018, 02:08:21 pm »
Today is draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa gging.

Have you considered taking speed?
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8506 on: July 18, 2018, 02:34:11 pm »
Today is draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa gging.

Have you considered taking speed?

Not until now. Wanna deliver some to my school?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8507 on: July 18, 2018, 02:43:52 pm »
Today is draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa gging.

Have you considered taking speed?

Not until now. Wanna deliver some to my school?

Co-worker just came by with a round of iced coffee for the crew.
Caffeine level back on spec!

(Is it Friday yet?)


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8508 on: July 19, 2018, 08:01:02 am »
Hopefully this is the right place to bitch about co workers.
Generally my co teachers are a massive help. I have three, one for fourth, fifth and sixth grade. Sadly my sixth grade co teacher took early maternity leave about four months ago. I ended up with a temporary co teacher who is completely inept.
She lets students talk over her, can't effectively discipline students and never even asks what we're going to do before a lesson. I've had four months of being responsible for planning out the semester, preparing all lesson material and figuring out how to present it without a co teacher to help translate because her English level is lower than a lot of my students.
She actually makes my job more difficult by walking around while i'm presenting vocabulary, the rules of a game or playing a song while the students complete a gapfill and then she just chats in Korean which is really distracting. She almost never speaks in English during lessons. My ideal lesson these days are the ones where she stands at the back subtly using her phone. I've also noticed that some of the work she does during her solo lessons seems very low level.. like 3rd or 4th grade color the picture kind of stuff. The classroom is often messier as well so I end up tidying frequently after her lessons end. She also has a terrible habit of jamming the photocopier and then just walking away... which isn't a great tactic as its jammed with her crappy worksheets.
I'm proud to say that three of my sixth grade classes are doing very well overall but the other two are noticeably worse in terms of their behavior.
At this point i'm feeling burnt out and can only hope that I never have the misfortune of working with her again after the semester ends next week.
Rant finished....

I have a similar situation, but with my 5th grade coteacher. First coteacher was a temp coteacher. She was absolutely amazing. We were around the same age (both on the younger end), and she spoke almost perfect English. We would plan lessons together and I knew that her lessons would be excellent with or without me. Kids excelled, and, despite being notoriously the worst behaved grade in the school, they behaved quite well in our classes.

In the middle of the semester, the original (full time) teacher returned. She's back just to finish out the semester and get retirement. She's the sweetest person in the world, but she can't speak English to save her life, and she can't control the students. In just a month, all of the classes have devolved. They don't listen, they don't participate, and they don't retain anything they've learned.

I've instituted a 3-strike system. They get a tally mark on the board if they're loud or not listening (the whole class, or just one person), and 3 tallies means we stop whatever we're doing and they have to copy and translate lines in silence for the rest of class. They're still not as good as they were with the temp teacher, but they are behaving better.

Oh man.. that sounds tragic. The other day I tried talking to my co teacher about how the 6th grade has gotten worse, problem students, problem classes and all of that good stuff. Unfortunately my co teacher had drawn a dragon on her hand.. and every time she moved her thumb it looked like the dragon was breathing fire.. so I don't think she really focused on what I said or will work to improve in any way. Thankfully just four days left of teaching with her. I'd honestly quit if I had to work with her for another semester.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8509 on: July 19, 2018, 08:03:46 am »
I have a coworker who is just wonderful. She is excellent at her job, friendly, always smiling, and just great person to be around... except her breath!

There seams to be a stark divide in Korea - those who carry a toothbrush everywhere and those who don't own one.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8510 on: July 19, 2018, 08:20:13 am »
I have a coworker who is just wonderful. She is excellent at her job, friendly, always smiling, and just great person to be around... except her breath!

There seams to be a stark divide in Korea - those who carry a toothbrush everywhere and those who don't own one.

To be fair they are extremely overpriced. Back home my carbon fibre handled toothbrush with spider cob web bristles and alligator hide rear for tongue scrubbing is similarly expensive. 
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8511 on: July 19, 2018, 09:02:00 am »
Individually wrapped cookies.

**** you, Lotte.
yeah, ordering stuff like cans of tuna from coupang. wrapped in bubble wrap, with the cans wrapped in plastic (in cans of 3), and then the cans of 3 are wrapped in more plastic, in sets of 9.

this is all surrounded with those air-pocket padding, and put in a box. or, in another plastic bag

That is SO bad for the environment. Did you know South Korea has the highest per capita plastic consumption in the world? And did you know plastic is made from petroleum, a finite resource? Hopefully excess packaging and plastic umbrella covers, etc. will go away or at least be reduced soon. I've been thinking of ways to help make that happen.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8512 on: July 19, 2018, 09:13:27 am »
Individually wrapped cookies.

**** you, Lotte.
yeah, ordering stuff like cans of tuna from coupang. wrapped in bubble wrap, with the cans wrapped in plastic (in cans of 3), and then the cans of 3 are wrapped in more plastic, in sets of 9.

this is all surrounded with those air-pocket padding, and put in a box. or, in another plastic bag

That is SO bad for the environment. Did you know South Korea has the highest per capita plastic consumption in the world? And did you know plastic is made from petroleum, a finite resource? Hopefully excess packaging and plastic umbrella covers, etc. will go away or at least be reduced soon. I've been thinking of ways to help make that happen.

Don't forget most frequent use of plastic surgery! They really love their plastic!
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8513 on: July 19, 2018, 09:24:40 am »
Individually wrapped cookies.

**** you, Lotte.
yeah, ordering stuff like cans of tuna from coupang. wrapped in bubble wrap, with the cans wrapped in plastic (in cans of 3), and then the cans of 3 are wrapped in more plastic, in sets of 9.

this is all surrounded with those air-pocket padding, and put in a box. or, in another plastic bag

That is SO bad for the environment. Did you know South Korea has the highest per capita plastic consumption in the world? And did you know plastic is made from petroleum, a finite resource? Hopefully excess packaging and plastic umbrella covers, etc. will go away or at least be reduced soon. I've been thinking of ways to help make that happen.

I bought a loaf of bread the other day (wrapped in plastic) and the dude put it inside another plastic bag. I was like it's alright I'll just carry it as it is. So many wasteful and unnecessary uses of plastics here. 
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8514 on: July 19, 2018, 09:27:59 am »
Individually wrapped cookies.

**** you, Lotte.
yeah, ordering stuff like cans of tuna from coupang. wrapped in bubble wrap, with the cans wrapped in plastic (in cans of 3), and then the cans of 3 are wrapped in more plastic, in sets of 9.

this is all surrounded with those air-pocket padding, and put in a box. or, in another plastic bag

That is SO bad for the environment. Did you know South Korea has the highest per capita plastic consumption in the world? And did you know plastic is made from petroleum, a finite resource? Hopefully excess packaging and plastic umbrella covers, etc. will go away or at least be reduced soon. I've been thinking of ways to help make that happen.

I bought a loaf of bread the other day (wrapped in plastic) and the dude put it inside another plastic bag. I was like it's alright I'll just carry it as it is. So many wasteful and unnecessary uses of plastics here.

I struggle so much with my plastic consumption.

On one hand  I try to cut it back as much as possible, but when I've spent too much money I fall back to cheap foods that are wrapped in so much plastic. It's so shitty of me. I also hate that our recycling must be put out in plastic bags here. Like why.

Also why are bananas here often sold in plastic bags or on foam trays with plastic wrap???


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8515 on: July 19, 2018, 09:29:40 am »
Individually wrapped cookies.

**** you, Lotte.
yeah, ordering stuff like cans of tuna from coupang. wrapped in bubble wrap, with the cans wrapped in plastic (in cans of 3), and then the cans of 3 are wrapped in more plastic, in sets of 9.

this is all surrounded with those air-pocket padding, and put in a box. or, in another plastic bag

That is SO bad for the environment. Did you know South Korea has the highest per capita plastic consumption in the world? And did you know plastic is made from petroleum, a finite resource? Hopefully excess packaging and plastic umbrella covers, etc. will go away or at least be reduced soon. I've been thinking of ways to help make that happen.

I bought a loaf of bread the other day (wrapped in plastic) and the dude put it inside another plastic bag. I was like it's alright I'll just carry it as it is. So many wasteful and unnecessary uses of plastics here.

I struggle so much with my plastic consumption.

On one hand  I try to cut it back as much as possible, but when I've spent too much money I fall back to cheap foods that are wrapped in so much plastic. It's so shitty of me. I also hate that our recycling must be put out in plastic bags here. Like why.

Also why are bananas here often sold in plastic bags or on foam trays with plastic wrap???

I recycle my plastics by putting them into a cardboard box, and my cardboard / paper into a separate cardboard box. :P


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8516 on: July 19, 2018, 10:14:10 am »

Also why are bananas here often sold in plastic bags or on foam trays with plastic wrap???
i'm pretty sure they do this with fruit and veg so they can hide the bruised or slightly off parts, by hiding it with the foam trays

at least, i have often bought fruit or veg like this, only to get home, unwrap it and find that it's completely mouldy or bruised at the bottom


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8517 on: July 19, 2018, 10:18:44 am »
So many wasteful and unnecessary uses of plastics here.
I ordered ecobags. They came individually wrapped in plastic.  :cry:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8518 on: July 19, 2018, 10:39:41 am »
So many wasteful and unnecessary uses of plastics here.
I ordered ecobags. They came individually wrapped in plastic.  :cry:

LMAO
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8519 on: July 19, 2018, 02:56:19 pm »
I'm gonna be "that person" this year.

Daegu's current weather is NSFL, and I'm from a place that's famous for its heat and humidity.
I'm funnier in Enochian.