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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8440 on: July 11, 2018, 11:06:07 am »

Don't try to ****** lecture me that the word "panties" is most appropriately used to refer to all underwear. If that's how you want to use it in Korea, fine, I'm not going to argue with you, but don't try to tell the rest of the English-speaking world how they should use their own gawddamn word. INCLUDING HOW IT SHOULD BE PRONOUNCED WTFUCKITYFUCKFUCK

I might have some sympathy for this if not for the west, and especially America's record of utterly butchering everything. We take words from around the world and change their meaning in English, then insist the rest of the world that they learn it that way.

English teacher to Italian students: "You're saying it wrong. It's Rome, not Roma."  :rolleyes:

This is part of the joy of cross-cultural language exchange- stuff like this happens and we get some interesting and amusing results. Lighten up.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8441 on: July 11, 2018, 11:14:06 am »

Don't try to ****** lecture me that the word "panties" is most appropriately used to refer to all underwear. If that's how you want to use it in Korea, fine, I'm not going to argue with you, but don't try to tell the rest of the English-speaking world how they should use their own gawddamn word. INCLUDING HOW IT SHOULD BE PRONOUNCED WTFUCKITYFUCKFUCK

I might have some sympathy for this if not for the west, and especially America's record of utterly butchering everything. We take words from around the world and change their meaning in English, then insist the rest of the world that they learn it that way.

English teacher to Italian students: "You're saying it wrong. It's Rome, not Roma."  :rolleyes:

This is part of the joy of cross-cultural language exchange- stuff like this happens and we get some interesting and amusing results. Lighten up.
If an Italian told an American that it's called Roma, no one but very very stupid, would argue. Your example and argument is terrible.

And in English the city is called Rome. That is the correct English pronunciation.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8442 on: July 11, 2018, 11:17:23 am »

Don't try to ****** lecture me that the word "panties" is most appropriately used to refer to all underwear. If that's how you want to use it in Korea, fine, I'm not going to argue with you, but don't try to tell the rest of the English-speaking world how they should use their own gawddamn word. INCLUDING HOW IT SHOULD BE PRONOUNCED WTFUCKITYFUCKFUCK

I might have some sympathy for this if not for the west, and especially America's record of utterly butchering everything. We take words from around the world and change their meaning in English, then insist the rest of the world that they learn it that way.

English teacher to Italian students: "You're saying it wrong. It's Rome, not Roma."  :rolleyes:

This is part of the joy of cross-cultural language exchange- stuff like this happens and we get some interesting and amusing results. Lighten up.

Rome and Roma share the same meaning, and I don't think chinguetti would ever tell an Italian she was saying it wrong.

But your right on the last part. I rather like the clever ways Koreans have rebranded panties.

This all reminds me of a nickname a kid made for me a couple years back. from 도노반 to 도 노-빤스. Cute little f*cker. I got him back though~ :evil:
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8443 on: July 11, 2018, 11:29:41 am »

Don't try to ****** lecture me that the word "panties" is most appropriately used to refer to all underwear. If that's how you want to use it in Korea, fine, I'm not going to argue with you, but don't try to tell the rest of the English-speaking world how they should use their own gawddamn word. INCLUDING HOW IT SHOULD BE PRONOUNCED WTFUCKITYFUCKFUCK

I might have some sympathy for this if not for the west, and especially America's record of utterly butchering everything. We take words from around the world and change their meaning in English, then insist the rest of the world that they learn it that way.

English teacher to Italian students: "You're saying it wrong. It's Rome, not Roma."  :rolleyes:

This is part of the joy of cross-cultural language exchange- stuff like this happens and we get some interesting and amusing results. Lighten up.

With all due respect, this isn't just about how a city's name is pronounced in different parts of the world. This is about commonly used vocabulary in a completely different language getting redefined to suit a person's ego.

It's true, it can be interesting and amusing to see how other cultures adopt foreign words. Language is always evolving in part due to outside influences. English itself is a major hybrid with a long, long history. I don't have a problem with that. I don't get miffed over konglish, either.

I DO have a problem with some people's attitudes over it, though. Folks approaching ME and asking ME a question about the common use of an English word in America, disagreeing with what I tell them about it, going on to lecture me about the "correct" way to use the word and that this is how Americans should use the word, and then getting angry with and disrespectful towards me when I disagree with them are just ****** annoying. Konglish is not the basis for the English language, it's the other way around, and it shouldn't be used as a dick-measuring stick because it just makes you look insane.

There is a difference between general ignorance and flat-out pigheadedness. I don't care what nationality or ethnicity you are, you've got your ass in over your head if you're going to start a semantics argument with a native speaker over their own language.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8444 on: July 11, 2018, 11:48:42 am »
The Korean use of "Metropolitan" and "vinyl" also causes confusion.

In Korean English, "Metropolitan City" is part of the formal name of a city, whereas elsewhere it means "and surrounding area".

"Vinyl" in Korean English is soft plastic, regardless of chemical formula, whereas elsewhere it refers to specific chemical compositions, regardless of softness.

I guess the question is, "Is Korean English a dielect, or are these just errors?"







Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8445 on: July 11, 2018, 11:54:24 am »
"Vinyl" in Korean English is soft plastic, regardless of chemical formula, whereas elsewhere it refers to specific chemical compositions, regardless of softness.

Vinyl is specifically "plastic bag" here, made even harder to comprehend because they say it 비닐 rather than "Vㅏ이늘". Does anybody in the West say vinyl for anything except vinyl records these days?
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8446 on: July 11, 2018, 11:56:20 am »
Does anybody in the West say vinyl for anything except vinyl records these days?

For renovating, home materials and construction, yes.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8447 on: July 11, 2018, 11:57:48 am »
Does anybody in the West say vinyl for anything except vinyl records these days?

For renovating, home materials and construction, yes.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8448 on: July 11, 2018, 11:59:31 am »
"Vinyl" in Korean English is soft plastic, regardless of chemical formula, whereas elsewhere it refers to specific chemical compositions, regardless of softness.

Vinyl is specifically "plastic bag" here, made even harder to comprehend because they say it 비닐 rather than "Vㅏ이늘". Does anybody in the West say vinyl for anything except vinyl records these days?

Usually part of a more specific formulation; PVC pipe, PVA glue, etc.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8449 on: July 11, 2018, 01:05:15 pm »
Also, it's not specifically 'plastic bag.' It's, like waygook.org user JNM said, pretty much any soft, plastic or plastic-like substance. Oddly enough, records are not referred to as vinyl.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8450 on: July 11, 2018, 01:52:56 pm »
a glorified corn dog*

and this is a glorious corn dog


I heard about these before I came to Korea--obviously via messenger pigeon--and was really looking forward to giving it a go.  After a few weeks, I see a stall in Dongdaemun market, and ...

...was quite disappointed.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8451 on: July 11, 2018, 02:03:16 pm »
a glorified corn dog*

and this is a glorious corn dog


I heard about these before I came to Korea--obviously via messenger pigeon--and was really looking forward to giving it a go.  After a few weeks, I see a stall in Dongdaemun market, and ...

...was quite disappointed.



They don't taste anywhere near as good as they look... Then again, that could be a metaphor for Korea in general
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8452 on: July 12, 2018, 10:22:06 am »
a glorified corn dog*

and this is a glorious corn dog


I heard about these before I came to Korea--obviously via messenger pigeon--and was really looking forward to giving it a go.  After a few weeks, I see a stall in Dongdaemun market, and ...

...was quite disappointed.



They don't taste anywhere near as good as they look... Then again, that could be a metaphor for Korea in general

Yes i had the same one at Dongdaemon Station. It was not very nice. Sort of like the first time i had Paris Baguette garlic bread here - i mean who puts honey on garlic bread? Not to mention i had very sticky fingers and nowhere to wash them.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8453 on: July 12, 2018, 10:43:46 am »
Wow, I'm so burned out and hate my job so much that I feel nothing but negativity. I've been doing this kind of job for 7 years but I've finally got to the point where I'm about to completely break down.

Really looking forward to my trip to Europe in the vacation.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8454 on: July 12, 2018, 11:07:35 am »
Wow, I'm so burned out and hate my job so much that I feel nothing but negativity. I've been doing this kind of job for 7 years but I've finally got to the point where I'm about to completely break down.

Really looking forward to my trip to Europe in the vacation.

i kind of felt like this

there is such a stark difference in professionality between working at a hagwon or public school (public schools i have worked at were very unprofessional, in my opinion) and teaching adults business english. it's like a different world

my after school program is laughably unprofessional. to the point it's ridiculous. probably the worst job i've ever had, in regards to the amount of fuckery involved. but, it's bearable because i love my part-time adult jobs, which treat me with respect, and are very professionally run

a change in job environments definitely gave me a second wind in korea. if you have a chance at an F visa, it's worth going for (if you plan to stay a few more years in korea, anyway)


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8455 on: July 12, 2018, 11:26:32 am »
Wow, I'm so burned out and hate my job so much that I feel nothing but negativity. I've been doing this kind of job for 7 years but I've finally got to the point where I'm about to completely break down.

Really looking forward to my trip to Europe in the vacation.

The feeling gets stronger year after year more me; a big reason I feel it's time to call it quits. I was filled with a sense of dread in the week before this school year started. I got over it and I generally like my classes, but it's more the Groundhog Day aspect of it that spooked me.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8456 on: July 12, 2018, 12:02:25 pm »
My CoT who is amazing is leaving after this semester is done. I am a bit scared that my luck of good CoTs will run out after this.... 2.5 yrs of good, last 1.5 amazing.
I shall pray to RNGesus!!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8457 on: July 12, 2018, 12:17:41 pm »
Was on a high last night on how grateful I was for being in Korea, I'd just come back from a training session at the athletics stadium. The stadium had just been remodeled, so the track was brand new. The grass for the soccer field was just cut the day before, I arrived at 6pm and the weather had gone from hot and muggy to warm and slightly breezy with clear skies. Aside from a little girl on rollerblades and an old man walking laps around the seating area, I had an entire 8-lane 400m track and soccer field all to myself for training. No worries about my car being jacked in the parking lot or even some thugs scaling the wall and stealing my timing gate or bag, just a glorious 90min training session. Life was good.

Today, life gave just enough of a bitch slap.

Getting to school
The entrance to the school is at a busy 3-way intersection and parents have a shitty habit of stopping right at the entrance, blocking all traffic so their kids can slowly amble out the car and further delay the 15 cars waiting behind. The crossing guards, made up of teachers and/or old people, do absolutely F*all about it. Everyone was waiting for this little spazoid to get out of his mom's SUV. Once he got out and traffic started moving, the car in front of me drove 5m and... stopped so her brats could get out... Why can't you let your damn kids get out while the kids from the car in front are getting out??? You wait 3min for them to get out, just so you can drive 5m to sop and let yours get out?

During class
Since the beginning of the year, almost every student in one of the 6th grade classes seems to go out of their way to appear exhausted, tired and miserable. They'll stare at the floor, slouch in their desks and never answer a question with anything more than a mumbled whisper, they rarely even smile. My CT constantly tells me that they act this way in every class, not just English. I told my CT that in my experience the common factor is usually the HR teacher. She refused to believe it and constantly makes stupid excuses for their behavior. Apparently, yesterday they spent 20min carrying books so today they're exhausted... Are you f*cking kidding me?
An entire school of teachers does nothing but complain about a class and no surprise that nothing has been done to figure out the problem or fix it.

This is my issue with Korea, when something is wrong, most people just accept it. Few complain and almost nobody attempts to actually tries to fix it.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8458 on: July 12, 2018, 12:53:19 pm »
My CoT who is amazing is leaving after this semester is done. I am a bit scared that my luck of good CoTs will run out after this.... 2.5 yrs of good, last 1.5 amazing.
I shall pray to RNGesus!!
I've had a string of different schools in the 7.5 years I've been here, and so my luck has held up pretty well. Never less than a 4 each time I rolled the dice.
   Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you've been lucky so far then chances are that your luck will hold into the future as well.  :smiley:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8459 on: July 12, 2018, 02:13:05 pm »
Wow, I'm so burned out and hate my job so much that I feel nothing but negativity. I've been doing this kind of job for 7 years but I've finally got to the point where I'm about to completely break down.

Really looking forward to my trip to Europe in the vacation.

Me too.  I hate it.  I dread coming to work every day even though I know it's not that bad. 

No alternatives for me though.  What would I do after I've packed up my life here, flown home and left twiddling my thumbs in my parents' house wishing I was back here  :blank: