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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8360 on: June 28, 2018, 01:02:39 pm »
I set the air con in the office to dehumidify this morning. Coupled with a fan, it's the best way to cool down on a humid day and doesn't cost a lot of money to run.

Get back from lunch, and somebody has turned off the A/C, which was only acting as a dehumidifier, and opened the windows to let all the moist air back in. How can teachers be so stupid?

You are fighting a losing battle. You can buy a hygrometer (measures relative humidity) on Aliexpress or gmarket and show them the the changes. If any of the teachers have ever traveled to a hot+dry place you can use that. Because heat and humidity always go together in Korea, I doubt that you will have much success.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8361 on: June 28, 2018, 01:10:01 pm »
I set the air con in the office to dehumidify this morning. Coupled with a fan, it's the best way to cool down on a humid day and doesn't cost a lot of money to run.

Get back from lunch, and somebody has turned off the A/C, which was only acting as a dehumidifier, and opened the windows to let all the moist air back in. How can teachers be so stupid?

You are fighting a losing battle. You can buy a hygrometer (measures relative humidity) on Aliexpress or gmarket and show them the the changes. If any of the teachers have ever traveled to a hot+dry place you can use that. Because heat and humidity always go together in Korea, I doubt that you will have much success.

Yeah, can't fight stupid here.

Stupid aka everyone does it that way so it must be correct.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8362 on: June 28, 2018, 01:17:21 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Tell them that's ridiculous.

Yeah I live in fear of being asked to do something like this.  Hopefully it's one of those things they just forget about.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8363 on: June 28, 2018, 01:24:21 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Tell them that's ridiculous.

I asked them what was wrong with a different version. and I just got. "Because it's not my version."
Turning this into a play is super tedious >.<


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8364 on: June 28, 2018, 01:28:41 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Tell them that's ridiculous.

Yeah I live in fear of being asked to do something like this.  Hopefully it's one of those things they just forget about.

Yeah, It was meant to start at the beginning of this semester, but my school offers so many after school classes / clubs, that they literally couldn't fit it in. I don't know what is changing / has changed, but my boss came to me today, slapped a photocopied version of his book and said to turn it into a play, and make it in modern English.
He asked me earlier in the semester to do this, and said I could use any version. I found one online that is already in play format, modern English, and would be a bit different. I was hoping it was forgotten about, but then today. Nope. You have to do it again using my version. It needs to be done before summer vacation as well. I still have to plan / prepare for the summer camp too >.<


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8365 on: June 28, 2018, 01:55:24 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Tell them that's ridiculous.

Yeah I live in fear of being asked to do something like this.  Hopefully it's one of those things they just forget about.

Yeah, It was meant to start at the beginning of this semester, but my school offers so many after school classes / clubs, that they literally couldn't fit it in. I don't know what is changing / has changed, but my boss came to me today, slapped a photocopied version of his book and said to turn it into a play, and make it in modern English.
He asked me earlier in the semester to do this, and said I could use any version. I found one online that is already in play format, modern English, and would be a bit different. I was hoping it was forgotten about, but then today. Nope. You have to do it again using my version. It needs to be done before summer vacation as well. I still have to plan / prepare for the summer camp too >.<

Do not accept ridiculous requests. I'd agree to teach the kids a play, but I wouldn't write my own just for a kids' performance. That is an unreasonable expectation.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8366 on: June 28, 2018, 02:02:48 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Pick one.

WTF
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8367 on: June 28, 2018, 02:16:18 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Internet aside, there are plenty of books that you can find at any Korean bookstore that do precisely what you're being asked to do (for young learners anyway), along with a CD and accompanying activities (http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/product/detailViewKor.laf?ejkGb=KOR&mallGb=KOR&barcode=9791155096727&orderClick=LAG&Kc=). I suggest that you stop asking for clarification and just teach it the way you feel is best.

I was asked to teach a 'culture' class this year with 5th grade once a week in addition to the regular curriculum class that I have. I was given no further instruction. I asked for no further instruction. I just teach two curriculum classes.  All izz well.

EDIT: Sounds like from your subsequent post they already have something picked out for you. Sorry dude~
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8368 on: June 28, 2018, 02:33:41 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Pick one.

WTF

Basically: The version of the story has to stay the same. The only thing that is allowed to change is the English being used. It has to be more modern.

It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Internet aside, there are plenty of books that you can find at any Korean bookstore that do precisely what you're being asked to do (for young learners anyway), along with a CD and accompanying activities (http://www.kyobobook.co.kr/product/detailViewKor.laf?ejkGb=KOR&mallGb=KOR&barcode=9791155096727&orderClick=LAG&Kc=). I suggest that you stop asking for clarification and just teach it the way you feel is best.

I was asked to teach a 'culture' class this year with 5th grade once a week in addition to the regular curriculum class that I have. I was given no further instruction. I asked for no further instruction. I just teach two curriculum classes.  All izz well.

EDIT: Sounds like from your subsequent post they already have something picked out for you. Sorry dude~

Yeah, my boss picked out the story, and the version of the story. and it's not for a regular class. It going to be for a new English drama club that will be starting next semester, with unknown amount of my students. Only a handful will be good enough to do this too, and there is already more roles than students with a level good enough to do this. I also think my boss MAY join in, and be there during the club too. Even if he isn't, he's planning to eventually invite parents and stuff to watch them put on the play. So, it's not like I can really do something different haha.
As much as I'd like to. >.<

I have no interest in plays, in any form lol.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8369 on: June 28, 2018, 02:35:28 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Tell them that's ridiculous.

Yeah I live in fear of being asked to do something like this.  Hopefully it's one of those things they just forget about.

Yeah, It was meant to start at the beginning of this semester, but my school offers so many after school classes / clubs, that they literally couldn't fit it in. I don't know what is changing / has changed, but my boss came to me today, slapped a photocopied version of his book and said to turn it into a play, and make it in modern English.
He asked me earlier in the semester to do this, and said I could use any version. I found one online that is already in play format, modern English, and would be a bit different. I was hoping it was forgotten about, but then today. Nope. You have to do it again using my version. It needs to be done before summer vacation as well. I still have to plan / prepare for the summer camp too >.<

Do not accept ridiculous requests. I'd agree to teach the kids a play, but I wouldn't write my own just for a kids' performance. That is an unreasonable expectation.

I already agreed to do it, IF I know how many students, and which students would be participating. He agreed to that. Then chose a difficult story. With many roles. And now has said it HAS to be this. and that I have to change the English to be easier but still have the same meaning / story as the version of his book. >.<


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8370 on: June 28, 2018, 02:41:22 pm »
You could totally troll your boss by changing the language so that it sounds like Donald Trump speaking.

What's the story?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8371 on: June 28, 2018, 02:44:25 pm »
just be blunt and say you're not going to do it like it, as it's unreasonable. be fair, and explain there are a load of already-made plays on the internet/book you can buy like this, and you'd be happy to use one of those


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8372 on: June 28, 2018, 03:01:21 pm »
just be blunt and say you're not going to do it like it, as it's unreasonable. be fair, and explain there are a load of already-made plays on the internet/book you can buy like this, and you'd be happy to use one of those

Already tried this earlier. I even linked him to ones I thought would be a good level for the students. As the language had been graded to be easier too, he turned it down because it isn't his version (had a different ending or something). However, this kind of stuff is in my contract, and as it doesn't exceed the teaching hours per week, or happen after 5pm... I basically can't refuse without breaching my contract. I also have a lot of free time during my work week, so this isn't an entirely big deal. It's just very tedious and boring lol.

You could totally troll your boss by changing the language so that it sounds like Donald Trump speaking.

What's the story?

The prince and the pauper. The version he is using is a really old version, that's completely in Ye olde English. Even I'm having trouble understanding some of it lol.
I'm already at 13 roles in this story, that is almost 1 role for every student in the school. And I doubt we will get that for the drama club lol. Unless they are forced to join. :\


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8373 on: June 28, 2018, 03:03:58 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Tell them that's ridiculous.

Yeah I live in fear of being asked to do something like this.  Hopefully it's one of those things they just forget about.

Yeah, It was meant to start at the beginning of this semester, but my school offers so many after school classes / clubs, that they literally couldn't fit it in. I don't know what is changing / has changed, but my boss came to me today, slapped a photocopied version of his book and said to turn it into a play, and make it in modern English.
He asked me earlier in the semester to do this, and said I could use any version. I found one online that is already in play format, modern English, and would be a bit different. I was hoping it was forgotten about, but then today. Nope. You have to do it again using my version. It needs to be done before summer vacation as well. I still have to plan / prepare for the summer camp too >.<

Do not accept ridiculous requests. I'd agree to teach the kids a play, but I wouldn't write my own just for a kids' performance. That is an unreasonable expectation.

I already agreed to do it, IF I know how many students, and which students would be participating. He agreed to that. Then chose a difficult story. With many roles. And now has said it HAS to be this. and that I have to change the English to be easier but still have the same meaning / story as the version of his book. >.<

You have legitimate grounds to refuse using his daft script.
If parents and guests will be attending the performance and at least one of them is able to pick up the awkward or terrible English, it'll be a poor reflection on your competence as a teacher and English speaker.

Tell him outright that this will tarnish your reputation and you refuse to do it. Offer the alternative and simply don't budge.



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8374 on: June 28, 2018, 03:14:14 pm »
CT and I were planning camp. We generally don't fuss too much as I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing and it's simply a matter of putting it on paper and getting the materials.

This year, for Science Day, I decided on getting each team to create a mini Rube Goldberg machine. I'm sure they'll love it, but it'll definitely take some time. I believe it'll take about 2 days. My CT was fine with doing it over 2 days, but asked me to write it down for 1 day on the official schedule.... huh?
The camp template she has lists a theme for each day, so she wants me to put Science Day for 1 day, on the schedule and put any theme be it 'Sports Day', 'Stripper Day' or whatever for the final day just so it matches the template of 1 theme a day and we can simply ignore it.

Apparently it's ABSOLUTELY CRAZY to disagree with a piece of paper.

This place drives me absolutely bonkers at times.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8375 on: June 28, 2018, 03:34:52 pm »
It's been decided that, from next semester, I have to run an 'afterschool, but before 5pm, English drama club'.
I get given famous English stories and have to convert them into colloquial style English; and I can't just get a version from the internet either, that is already converted into a play.
They want me to go through the version they give me and do that. It's not allowed to deviate slightly. >.<
The students will be putting on a play for their parents / teachers or something.

Tell them that's ridiculous.

Yeah I live in fear of being asked to do something like this.  Hopefully it's one of those things they just forget about.

Yeah, It was meant to start at the beginning of this semester, but my school offers so many after school classes / clubs, that they literally couldn't fit it in. I don't know what is changing / has changed, but my boss came to me today, slapped a photocopied version of his book and said to turn it into a play, and make it in modern English.
He asked me earlier in the semester to do this, and said I could use any version. I found one online that is already in play format, modern English, and would be a bit different. I was hoping it was forgotten about, but then today. Nope. You have to do it again using my version. It needs to be done before summer vacation as well. I still have to plan / prepare for the summer camp too >.<

Do not accept ridiculous requests. I'd agree to teach the kids a play, but I wouldn't write my own just for a kids' performance. That is an unreasonable expectation.

I already agreed to do it, IF I know how many students, and which students would be participating. He agreed to that. Then chose a difficult story. With many roles. And now has said it HAS to be this. and that I have to change the English to be easier but still have the same meaning / story as the version of his book. >.<

You have legitimate grounds to refuse using his daft script.
If parents and guests will be attending the performance and at least one of them is able to pick up the awkward or terrible English, it'll be a poor reflection on your competence as a teacher and English speaker.

Tell him outright that this will tarnish your reputation and you refuse to do it. Offer the alternative and simply don't budge.

I'll be clear, I'm not sure if they WILL be there or not. But my boss is HOPING, that they will be good enough to do that. At least, that's how I understood it (even after asking for clarification, but you know how things go here).

I think the plan is: This is extra English practice / exposure for the higher level students (ones we think might be good enough to apply for the scholarship to study in NZ for a couple months), however, if they get to the point they can act it out, without the script, he'll invite parents etc.

We aren't even sure which students will be joining / participating yet. A couple of the students with the lowest level of English, their parents regularly sign them up to ALL extra English related things as well; 1 of which is a special needs student (He tries super hard to understand English though, even though he can't do much more than hello).


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8376 on: June 28, 2018, 03:43:09 pm »
CT and I were planning camp. We generally don't fuss too much as I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing and it's simply a matter of putting it on paper and getting the materials.

This year, for Science Day, I decided on getting each team to create a mini Rube Goldberg machine. I'm sure they'll love it, but it'll definitely take some time. I believe it'll take about 2 days. My CT was fine with doing it over 2 days, but asked me to write it down for 1 day on the official schedule.... huh?
The camp template she has lists a theme for each day, so she wants me to put Science Day for 1 day, on the schedule and put any theme be it 'Sports Day', 'Stripper Day' or whatever for the final day just so it matches the template of 1 theme a day and we can simply ignore it.

Apparently it's ABSOLUTELY CRAZY to disagree with a piece of paper.

This place drives me absolutely bonkers at times.

I got told something very similar to this, back in december while prepping for winter camp haha >.<
Yeah, it is a bit bonkers lol.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8377 on: June 28, 2018, 04:14:40 pm »
CT and I were planning camp. We generally don't fuss too much as I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing and it's simply a matter of putting it on paper and getting the materials.

This year, for Science Day, I decided on getting each team to create a mini Rube Goldberg machine. I'm sure they'll love it, but it'll definitely take some time. I believe it'll take about 2 days. My CT was fine with doing it over 2 days, but asked me to write it down for 1 day on the official schedule.... huh?
The camp template she has lists a theme for each day, so she wants me to put Science Day for 1 day, on the schedule and put any theme be it 'Sports Day', 'Stripper Day' or whatever for the final day just so it matches the template of 1 theme a day and we can simply ignore it.

Apparently it's ABSOLUTELY CRAZY to disagree with a piece of paper.

This place drives me absolutely bonkers at times.
haha yeah. i've had teachers ask me a grammar question over the years, i give them the answer, then later they tell me i'm wrong because the korean english book says differently. "but it says this in the book!"


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8378 on: June 29, 2018, 05:26:22 am »
You could totally troll your boss by changing the language so that it sounds like Donald Trump speaking.

What's the story?

I’d love to hear the Trump version of ‘The Prince and the Pauper’  ;D


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8379 on: June 29, 2018, 07:52:18 am »
Why don't you just find an easier version online for free. Change a few words. Say you wrote it?

I mean, he wants it has a play but surely not one that's going to last a few hours. Copy it. Skim it down.

It's possible that something about his instructions got lost in translation?

Anyway, I'd just plagiarize the f out someones work if it was me.  :wink: