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  • Pennypie
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8280 on: June 21, 2018, 11:24:26 am »
My PoE is having one of its semiannual provincial training seminars this Friday. That alone is reason enough to want to rant and vent, but my school has decided I need to come in and teach my first period class that morning, too. That means I get to make the 45 minute commute in the opposite direction of the training location, teach one class, then make the 2 hour trip to the training, finding some time/place to eat lunch on the way (no food or drinks in the training rooms, of course).


With you on that. Especially since I'm leaving...can't be arsed is a massive understatement.


  • oglop
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8281 on: June 21, 2018, 11:43:30 am »
My PoE is having one of its semiannual provincial training seminars this Friday. That alone is reason enough to want to rant and vent, but my school has decided I need to come in and teach my first period class that morning, too. That means I get to make the 45 minute commute in the opposite direction of the training location, teach one class, then make the 2 hour trip to the training, finding some time/place to eat lunch on the way (no food or drinks in the training rooms, of course).

Every other time, I've been allowed to just stay home in the morning and go straight from my apartment to training, which allows me to just eat at home, cuts out the morning commute, and cuts the travel time to the venue in half. I don't know why they've decided it needs to be different this time, but I'm... less than thrilled about it.
can't you just go to the seminar, sign your name, then leave? that's what i used to do (and the korean english teachers)


  • yirj17
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8282 on: June 21, 2018, 12:02:46 pm »
In the subway underground there's a foreigner (backpacker?) selling photos of himself  :undecided:

Really? lol. Has he sold any?

No idea.  Didn't stick around to see  :laugh:

Oh. Uhh... That's too bad. haha

It's not the first time I've seen him so I do wonder if he's actually had any sales  :undecided:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8283 on: June 21, 2018, 12:08:00 pm »
In the subway underground there's a foreigner (backpacker?) selling photos of himself  :undecided:

Really? lol. Has he sold any?

No idea.  Didn't stick around to see  :laugh:

Oh. Uhh... That's too bad. haha

It's not the first time I've seen him so I do wonder if he's actually had any sales  :undecided:

Ahh really?! :O If you have the time / motivation to do so, please find out. FOR SCIENCE!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8284 on: June 21, 2018, 01:29:03 pm »
My PoE is having one of its semiannual provincial training seminars this Friday. That alone is reason enough to want to rant and vent, but my school has decided I need to come in and teach my first period class that morning, too. That means I get to make the 45 minute commute in the opposite direction of the training location, teach one class, then make the 2 hour trip to the training, finding some time/place to eat lunch on the way (no food or drinks in the training rooms, of course).

Every other time, I've been allowed to just stay home in the morning and go straight from my apartment to training, which allows me to just eat at home, cuts out the morning commute, and cuts the travel time to the venue in half. I don't know why they've decided it needs to be different this time, but I'm... less than thrilled about it.
can't you just go to the seminar, sign your name, then leave? that's what i used to do (and the korean english teachers)

That wouldn't really solve the problem of having to commute to one city, teach one class, then commute to a different city in the opposite direction for the seminar, haha.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8285 on: June 21, 2018, 01:32:34 pm »
can't you just go to the seminar, sign your name, then leave? that's what i used to do (and the korean english teachers)
That wouldn't really solve the problem of having to commute to one city, teach one class, then commute to a different city in the opposite direction for the seminar, haha.
Would having a friend sign for you solve the problem?  :angel:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8286 on: June 21, 2018, 01:35:47 pm »
can't you just go to the seminar, sign your name, then leave? that's what i used to do (and the korean english teachers)
That wouldn't really solve the problem of having to commute to one city, teach one class, then commute to a different city in the opposite direction for the seminar, haha.
Would having a friend sign for you solve the problem?  :angel:

It would!

...if I had any friends.  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8287 on: June 22, 2018, 07:55:56 am »
It's a small grievance but it's really starting to grate on my nerves. My school LOVES using the English room as its meeting/presentation room. I don't mind. What I do mind is the fact that they always rearrange the desks for their events and then leave them like that. Could you not take a simple 5 minutes with your group and put the desks back the way they were?  >:(
Instead, I have to spend the first 5 minutes of my class getting the students to help me put the desks back in order. Maybe it's a sign that I'm ready to leave Korea. I only have two more months here but it seems like even the small stuff is starting to bother me. I think it's good I'm leaving soon.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8288 on: June 22, 2018, 09:03:21 am »
It's a small grievance but it's really starting to grate on my nerves. My school LOVES using the English room as its meeting/presentation room. I don't mind. What I do mind is the fact that they always rearrange the desks for their events and then leave them like that. Could you not take a simple 5 minutes with your group and put the desks back the way they were?  >:(
Instead, I have to spend the first 5 minutes of my class getting the students to help me put the desks back in order. Maybe it's a sign that I'm ready to leave Korea. I only have two more months here but it seems like even the small stuff is starting to bother me. I think it's good I'm leaving soon.

There was a meeting in the English room last week, and I just left a very large note on the white board. All desks were in order when I came in the next day. That is something that annoys me, too.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8289 on: June 22, 2018, 09:03:43 am »
Yeah, I get it. It's super annoying to keep rearranging those desks. They do the same at my school, they hold meetings every week at the end of the day and t's the chinese teacher that always has to re-arrange the desks, luckily she has me in the mornings to help her and the classes are pretty small so there isn't a lot of moving around.  She is forever complaining under her breath when this happens, though.

If the teachers can move the desks for the meeting then they can surely move them back when they're done. Maybe speak to your co-teacher and tell her in a polite way to ask the teachers if they can re-arrange the desks when theyre done because it's tedious for you to do it everytime before a class.

Look at it this way, you've only got two months left here, so say what you need, don't hold back :) It may even make things easier for the next teacher.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8290 on: June 22, 2018, 09:10:19 am »
Some piece of sh*t has parked their crappy Equus across the entrance to the school parking area. Cars cannot enter or leave the premises, including the delivery guys. It's not the VP or principal attempting to stop teachers from leaving early either.

I have no classes till after lunch so wanted to zip out to get my laptop charger. There's no number on the windscreen either.
The mentality just baffles me.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8291 on: June 22, 2018, 09:13:11 am »
Some piece of sh*t has parked their crappy Equus across the entrance to the school parking area. Cars cannot enter or leave the premises, including the delivery guys. It's not the VP or principal attempting to stop teachers from leaving early either.

I have no classes till after lunch so wanted to zip out to get my laptop charger. There's no number on the windscreen either.
The mentality just baffles me.

I'm just picturing this in my head and I'm getting myself all worked up over it.

Do they even do towing for illegally parked cars here, like, at all? I know it's usually overlooked and everything, but times like these where they're literally impeding traffic and entrances should at least be the exception.  >:(


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8292 on: June 22, 2018, 09:17:31 am »
Some piece of sh*t has parked their crappy Equus across the entrance to the school parking area. Cars cannot enter or leave the premises, including the delivery guys. It's not the VP or principal attempting to stop teachers from leaving early either.

I have no classes till after lunch so wanted to zip out to get my laptop charger. There's no number on the windscreen either.
The mentality just baffles me.

My boss in Sweden had someone do this when he wanted to get out of his garage, so he snapped off one of the windscreen wipers.

Just make sure there aren't an CCTVs around when you do this.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8293 on: June 22, 2018, 09:27:31 am »
Some piece of sh*t has parked their crappy Equus across the entrance to the school parking area. Cars cannot enter or leave the premises, including the delivery guys. It's not the VP or principal attempting to stop teachers from leaving early either.

I have no classes till after lunch so wanted to zip out to get my laptop charger. There's no number on the windscreen either.
The mentality just baffles me.

My boss in Sweden had someone do this when he wanted to get out of his garage, so he snapped off one of the windscreen wipers.

Just make sure there aren't an CCTVs around when you do this.

Of course!   :wink: Leave no trace!

Just ram it out of the way. Show them who the boss is around here. Full throttle.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8294 on: June 22, 2018, 09:30:16 am »
So the New co-T I have just came in from another school, and only started teaching English recently. she's never taught with a foreigner before either. I've been at this for 7 years now and always have a routine that my class can follow. I know how to teach certain things to different classes. Before she came, i had a routine with the previous teacher, and our classes ran smoothly. now with her around it's nothing but frustrating.

Whenever I make suggestions, she just says ok and goes on to do her own thing. For example, we do tests on the last day of every unit. We play it maybe 2 times, 3 if the students ask for it. I told her that she doesnt need to play the entire dialogue and questions again when checking the answers, cause the studetns just get tired and restless. If they didnt know the answer the first 3 times we played it, theyre not going to know it the next 2 times we play it, i told her to just check their answers. they usually do get all the answers right any way. But she never listens. She plays it mainly for herself, because she doesnt understand English that well. Doing this takes up an entire 45 mins of the class and by the end the students are usually tired and have zero energy left.

Before,  these tests took 20 mins and i would reward them with a game and they always left class with high energies.

There's so many other things that she doesnt listen to. Then she does this annoying thing of constantly cleaning and re-arranging things in class while i'm teaching. The only thing she does is plays the dialogue in the textbook and explains certain phrases in Korean when needed (and ofcourse when she plays the dialogue she takes the longest time to do it). I'd like her to be present through out the class. But instead i have to keep calling out to her to get her attention.  On top of her constant cleaning, the room has this strong perfume or aroma. it gives me such a headache to be there.

To be fair she did ask me in the beginning if i liked nice smelling things and suggested putting one of those air freshner bottles in the room, to which i said yeah, i dont mind. I did not expect it to be so strong that it actually wafts out into the hall way.

I am so tired of teaching with her. I speak to her in the nicest way possible but I'm so close to losing it. I really just want to just take over the class on do this on my own, I dont need her to click a mouse and play through the dialogues in the books. i can do that on my own. But that's the system my previous teacher and i had. The previous teacher told the new Co-T what our class routine was like and now she feels obligated to follow that but at the slowest most annoying pace ever, and makes certain changes that dont need to be made!!!

I really dont know what to do with her anymore...


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8295 on: June 22, 2018, 10:49:37 am »
So the New co-T I have just came in from another school, and only started teaching English recently. she's never taught with a foreigner before either. I've been at this for 7 years now and always have a routine that my class can follow. I know how to teach certain things to different classes. Before she came, i had a routine with the previous teacher, and our classes ran smoothly. now with her around it's nothing but frustrating.

Whenever I make suggestions, she just says ok and goes on to do her own thing. For example, we do tests on the last day of every unit. We play it maybe 2 times, 3 if the students ask for it. I told her that she doesnt need to play the entire dialogue and questions again when checking the answers, cause the studetns just get tired and restless. If they didnt know the answer the first 3 times we played it, theyre not going to know it the next 2 times we play it, i told her to just check their answers. they usually do get all the answers right any way. But she never listens. She plays it mainly for herself, because she doesnt understand English that well. Doing this takes up an entire 45 mins of the class and by the end the students are usually tired and have zero energy left.

Before,  these tests took 20 mins and i would reward them with a game and they always left class with high energies.

There's so many other things that she doesnt listen to. Then she does this annoying thing of constantly cleaning and re-arranging things in class while i'm teaching. The only thing she does is plays the dialogue in the textbook and explains certain phrases in Korean when needed (and ofcourse when she plays the dialogue she takes the longest time to do it). I'd like her to be present through out the class. But instead i have to keep calling out to her to get her attention.  On top of her constant cleaning, the room has this strong perfume or aroma. it gives me such a headache to be there.

To be fair she did ask me in the beginning if i liked nice smelling things and suggested putting one of those air freshner bottles in the room, to which i said yeah, i dont mind. I did not expect it to be so strong that it actually wafts out into the hall way.

I am so tired of teaching with her. I speak to her in the nicest way possible but I'm so close to losing it. I really just want to just take over the class on do this on my own, I dont need her to click a mouse and play through the dialogues in the books. i can do that on my own. But that's the system my previous teacher and i had. The previous teacher told the new Co-T what our class routine was like and now she feels obligated to follow that but at the slowest most annoying pace ever, and makes certain changes that dont need to be made!!!

I really dont know what to do with her anymore...

This is one of the few things that I don't miss about the typical public school life. Don't get me wrong; I've had some very good co-teachers in the past. That said, when you get one that is difficult to work with, it can make life seem so much more miserable at work. And trying to navigate communicating your needs and wants for the classroom while also respecting cultural norms here can be so frustrating.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8296 on: June 22, 2018, 11:00:28 am »
It's a small grievance but it's really starting to grate on my nerves. My school LOVES using the English room as its meeting/presentation room. I don't mind. What I do mind is the fact that they always rearrange the desks for their events and then leave them like that. Could you not take a simple 5 minutes with your group and put the desks back the way they were?  >:(
Instead, I have to spend the first 5 minutes of my class getting the students to help me put the desks back in order. Maybe it's a sign that I'm ready to leave Korea. I only have two more months here but it seems like even the small stuff is starting to bother me. I think it's good I'm leaving soon.

I had this issue at the beginning of the semester. My classroom is "deep," for lack of a better word, so desks are at the front so students can see, and there's an area for activities or group work at the back. My desks also have numbers on them, because seats are assigned randomly at the beginning of each class.

Let's just say my classroom was unrecognizable after the first teachers' meeting held in it.

I typed up a note that says "If you move the desks in this classroom, please return them to their original place before you leave." I also left a map of how the desks are arranged, in case they forget. It's in Korean and English, and is posted in about five places. (I got permission to do this, and would highly advise at least telling your manager teacher what you're doing and why.)

I haven't had an issue with the desks since.  ;D

Oh, and update on the situation from earlier this week: The students vent about every single teacher here. It isn't personally directed at me; they're just overwhelmed with the school's workload. Also, their opinions change on a daily basis. There have been more days where the Korean teachers have overheard them talking about "loving me" than complaining about my class. #teenagers

After I posted, though, I went to my martial arts class and worked through my feelings and decided that I honestly don't care either way. The research skills I'm teaching them are things they will seriously thank me for later. The majority of them want to attend college abroad, and I'm preparing them for that. I just wish my class counted for more of their grade, but at least it counts. I can't imagine trying to motivate them if this were just a "filler" class.  :huh:
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8297 on: June 25, 2018, 02:55:32 pm »
Right now my co workers / teachers are having a big meeting about camp. This year it's changed so they're all involved. Mercifully I'm not involved. (In the planning)

Anyway I'm sat at my desk listening in to the head of English, that doesn't speak English, run the meeting, make decisions, and give her wise advice to the teacher that has been doing camps at this school for 10 years.

 :evil:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8298 on: June 26, 2018, 08:20:07 am »
A sixth grade teacher has changed the 6th period class on Tuesday to first period on two occasions this past month. Both times, she asked me the day before so it was fine.

Today, at 8.45, a student from her class came to my office to say that from now on, the teacher wanted to have our class in the sixth period. Seemed a bit odd, but the teacher is very anxious, so I figured she just wanted to clarify everything.

A few minutes later, the student came back out of breath, explaining that his teacher wants our class to be in the first period from now on. I've complained many times about not having proper notice of schedule changes, and was in the process of eating breakfast and drinking coffee, so I told the kid to tell his teacher that I was eating breakfast and I'm not going to accept schedule changes without being told the day before. Ten minutes is not acceptable notice.

I do kind of feel sorry for that teacher as she's extremely anxious and cannot control her own class. She's even had parents insulting her over Kakao Talk which brought her to tears. But in the Korean workplace, you have to draw firm lines unless you want the crap to roll downhill onto you.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8299 on: June 26, 2018, 08:33:10 am »
A sixth grade teacher has changed the 6th period class on Tuesday to first period on two occasions this past month. Both times, she asked me the day before so it was fine.

Today, at 8.45, a student from her class came to my office to say that from now on, the teacher wanted to have our class in the sixth period. Seemed a bit odd, but the teacher is very anxious, so I figured she just wanted to clarify everything.

A few minutes later, the student came back out of breath, explaining that his teacher wants our class to be in the first period from now on. I've complained many times about not having proper notice of schedule changes, and was in the process of eating breakfast and drinking coffee, so I told the kid to tell his teacher that I was eating breakfast and I'm not going to accept schedule changes without being told the day before. Ten minutes is not acceptable notice.

I do kind of feel sorry for that teacher as she's extremely anxious and cannot control her own class. She's even had parents insulting her over Kakao Talk which brought her to tears. But in the Korean workplace, you have to draw firm lines unless you want the crap to roll downhill onto you.

It's tough and though I am a bit of an assh*le, I don't feel sorry for her at all.
When you've made a conscious decision to choose a career path, gotten the qualifications and landed the gig,
you've got nobody but yourself to blame for your incompetence. I've said this before and I'll say it again, Korean society revolves around a food chain of bullying; people are constantly on the lookout for an easy target to bully
so they can cope with the anxiety of the people or institutions who are bullying them.

As you say, you have to draw firm lines. I've yet to see bullying persist when the victim fights back.