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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8040 on: May 28, 2018, 02:51:54 pm »
Has anybody else got a notice from the folks at Korean statistics (I forget their official name) wanting to do a voluntary interview about various aspects of being an immigrant in Korea? I received a letter by post with all the information outlined in it (with 100% correct English! Shocked the Hell out of me). I was on the side of doing the interview but now I'm less inclined. The individual pursuing me for an interviewer turned up, without warning, at a bad time (I was just about to get in the shower after exercising) then proceeded to bang on my door for ages like she was heading a SWAT raid. Pretty annoying but eventually she left a card on the doorknob with her details. She won't stop calling (I think... spam calls are a problem ever since I joined a few Korean shopping websites) and she just rang the head of English at my school. Said teacher then comes to my classroom to give me her number (I have it already) and tell me I must ring her. After standing and staring at me I realize she means right now so I politely say 'no' (cue look of shock and possibly outrage). I AM BUSY. YOU CAN SEE ME WORKING  >:(

I'm sure this isn't just a Korean thing but it's making me annoyed how people just assume they're entitled to your time. Last year when I was home sick with a cold and laryngitis somebody banged on my front door for so long and so loudly I assumed it was an emergency. Nope, just 2 ajummas who wanted me to join their cult (and to ask me if I was Russian  :undecided: ) How often are people banging on my front door when I'm not home?

Last part of the rant: text messaging exists. Doesn't nobody remember? I'd message this lady saying I'm not interested but I'm pretty sure it'll be followed immediately by a phone call and then demands that I justify why I'm not interested in being interviewed. OR perhaps I'm being too pessimistic.

Tl;Dr: needy and demanding strangers are annoying.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8041 on: May 28, 2018, 03:10:35 pm »
I AM BUSY. YOU CAN SEE ME WORKING  >:(

I'm sure this isn't just a Korean thing but it's making me annoyed how people just assume they're entitled to your time. Last year when I was home sick with a cold and laryngitis somebody banged on my front door for so long and so loudly I assumed it was an emergency. Nope, just 2 ajummas who wanted me to join their cult (and to ask me if I was Russian  :undecided: ) How often are people banging on my front door when I'm not home?


I think this goes along with the Korean expectation of always being flexible (which is still VERY annoying). When something comes up, like I need to make an important visit to the bank or get important documents, my co-teacher will insist we do it immediately after she's just told me about it. These are the types of things that take hours mind you, and will take a huge chunk out of the remaining day after school. Nevermind asking "Are you busy?" or "Do you have any plans today?"

As a person who likes to know things ahead of time and be prepared, it's extremely frustrating.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8042 on: May 28, 2018, 03:41:06 pm »
I'm glad it's not just me! Do you ever feel like you're being gas-lit by an entire country?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8043 on: May 29, 2018, 12:08:01 am »
I AM BUSY. YOU CAN SEE ME WORKING  >:(

I'm sure this isn't just a Korean thing but it's making me annoyed how people just assume they're entitled to your time. Last year when I was home sick with a cold and laryngitis somebody banged on my front door for so long and so loudly I assumed it was an emergency. Nope, just 2 ajummas who wanted me to join their cult (and to ask me if I was Russian  :undecided: ) How often are people banging on my front door when I'm not home?


I think this goes along with the Korean expectation of always being flexible (which is still VERY annoying). When something comes up, like I need to make an important visit to the bank or get important documents, my co-teacher will insist we do it immediately after she's just told me about it. These are the types of things that take hours mind you, and will take a huge chunk out of the remaining day after school. Nevermind asking "Are you busy?" or "Do you have any plans today?"

As a person who likes to know things ahead of time and be prepared, it's extremely frustrating.

it's related to narcissim. not respecting other's time and boundaries. i think i wrote a long post on here a while back about how a ton of stuff in korean society can easily be explained by narcissim. edit~ here it is: http://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=112388.msg745549#msg745549

as an aside, i've also mentioned before i've moved to china. when i had to open my bank account here, i got asked at what time and on what day i wanted to do it. the person who came with to help me organized their schedule around mine.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8044 on: May 29, 2018, 12:19:28 am »
I really have no idea what I did to deserve being disrespected constantly by these kids.

you weren't born a korean. sorry.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8045 on: May 29, 2018, 07:50:00 am »
I'm glad it's not just me! Do you ever feel like you're being gas-lit by an entire country?
Totally.
I'm now not entirely certain whether or not Italy actually invented the pizza:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLA6Bk_ivs)
...or that the Wright Brothers invented the first aeroplane capable of self-sustaining flight:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nX_g0I1Pyk)
... or even if I can speak English properly:
("No kyndo teacher, it's pronounced 아-이-스-크-림!"


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8046 on: May 29, 2018, 08:01:09 am »
I AM BUSY. YOU CAN SEE ME WORKING  >:(

I'm sure this isn't just a Korean thing but it's making me annoyed how people just assume they're entitled to your time. Last year when I was home sick with a cold and laryngitis somebody banged on my front door for so long and so loudly I assumed it was an emergency. Nope, just 2 ajummas who wanted me to join their cult (and to ask me if I was Russian  :undecided: ) How often are people banging on my front door when I'm not home?


I think this goes along with the Korean expectation of always being flexible (which is still VERY annoying). When something comes up, like I need to make an important visit to the bank or get important documents, my co-teacher will insist we do it immediately after she's just told me about it. These are the types of things that take hours mind you, and will take a huge chunk out of the remaining day after school. Nevermind asking "Are you busy?" or "Do you have any plans today?"

As a person who likes to know things ahead of time and be prepared, it's extremely frustrating.

it's related to narcissim. not respecting other's time and boundaries. i think i wrote a long post on here a while back about how a ton of stuff in korean society can easily be explained by narcissim. edit~ here it is: http://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=112388.msg745549#msg745549

as an aside, i've also mentioned before i've moved to china. when i had to open my bank account here, i got asked at what time and on what day i wanted to do it. the person who came with to help me organized their schedule around mine.

That post was eye-opening, and not surprising at the same time.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8047 on: May 29, 2018, 08:44:09 am »
I'm glad it's not just me! Do you ever feel like you're being gas-lit by an entire country?
Totally.
I'm now not entirely certain whether or not Italy actually invented the pizza:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLA6Bk_ivs)
...or that the Wright Brothers invented the first aeroplane capable of self-sustaining flight:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nX_g0I1Pyk)
... or even if I can speak English properly:
("No kyndo teacher, it's pronounced 아-이-스-크-림!"

Can I get some milk for my coffee?

Not possible.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8048 on: May 29, 2018, 09:44:36 am »
I'm now not entirely certain whether or not Italy actually invented the pizza:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiLA6Bk_ivs)

We think this was the first bread stick promotion.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8049 on: May 29, 2018, 09:54:20 am »
We think this was the first bread stick promotion.
But didn't you know? The very first promotion of all time was Korean! I mean, why else did they beat the Gutenberg printing press by 50 years? (which makes the Jikji printer the most important invention of all time to date, by the way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVDsKRb9WPA


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8050 on: May 29, 2018, 11:32:08 am »
I AM BUSY. YOU CAN SEE ME WORKING  >:(

I'm sure this isn't just a Korean thing but it's making me annoyed how people just assume they're entitled to your time. Last year when I was home sick with a cold and laryngitis somebody banged on my front door for so long and so loudly I assumed it was an emergency. Nope, just 2 ajummas who wanted me to join their cult (and to ask me if I was Russian  :undecided: ) How often are people banging on my front door when I'm not home?


I think this goes along with the Korean expectation of always being flexible (which is still VERY annoying). When something comes up, like I need to make an important visit to the bank or get important documents, my co-teacher will insist we do it immediately after she's just told me about it. These are the types of things that take hours mind you, and will take a huge chunk out of the remaining day after school. Nevermind asking "Are you busy?" or "Do you have any plans today?"

As a person who likes to know things ahead of time and be prepared, it's extremely frustrating.

it's related to narcissim. not respecting other's time and boundaries. i think i wrote a long post on here a while back about how a ton of stuff in korean society can easily be explained by narcissim. edit~ here it is: http://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=112388.msg745549#msg745549

as an aside, i've also mentioned before i've moved to china. when i had to open my bank account here, i got asked at what time and on what day i wanted to do it. the person who came with to help me organized their schedule around mine.

That post was eye-opening, and not surprising at the same time.

I second that.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8051 on: May 30, 2018, 08:02:50 am »
I'm getting increasingly impatient and testy these days, but like internally.

I think it's probably because I'm leaving or shits been building for 4 years but anyway. It's just petty stuff too but it just grinds on me.

As an example, one teacher just came in to the office looking for 6 dice.

The conversation went like this. In Korean obvs.

Teacher A: Good morning everyone. I need some dice. Do you have them in here?

Teacher B: Oh teacher I will help you!

Teacher C: I will help you too!

Teacher B: Here are dice.

Teacher C: Yes we have dice.

Teacher B: How many do you need?
If you need more than this we can get more
?

Teacher C: Here are some unopened dice.

Teacher A: I need 6.

Teacher B: Oh there are more in here? Do you want to take more?

Teacher A: I only need 6

Teacher B: Okay then. Well here is the bag but there are more inside.

Teacher C: Trying to grab the bag I can take them out for you.

Teacher A: No it's okay I'll take it. Thank you everyone.

Me: screaming internally.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8052 on: May 30, 2018, 09:18:18 am »
I'm getting increasingly impatient and testy these days, but like internally.

I think it's probably because I'm leaving or shits been building for 4 years but anyway. It's just petty stuff too but it just grinds on me.

As an example, one teacher just came in to the office looking for 6 dice.

The conversation went like this. In Korean obvs.

Teacher A: Good morning everyone. I need some dice. Do you have them in here?

Teacher B: Oh teacher I will help you!

Teacher C: I will help you too!

Teacher B: Here are dice.

Teacher C: Yes we have dice.

Teacher B: How many do you need?
If you need more than this we can get more
?

Teacher C: Here are some unopened dice.

Teacher A: I need 6.

Teacher B: Oh there are more in here? Do you want to take more?

Teacher A: I only need 6

Teacher B: Okay then. Well here is the bag but there are more inside.

Teacher C: Trying to grab the bag I can take them out for you.

Teacher A: No it's okay I'll take it. Thank you everyone.

Me: screaming internally.
honestly, this is one thing that really annoys me. i think it is a korean thing. my wife does this too.

wife: are these socks ok?

me: yes

wife: do you like them?

me: yes

wife: so i should get them?

me: ...yes

wife: should i buy them then?

me: YES FFS

wife: no need to get annoyed at me

me: dsfkjhajrehguoqy245 ASDR4D6T5R3Q


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8053 on: May 30, 2018, 11:01:59 am »
are you guys in Public schools or hakwons?
I want to teach In korea eventually, but those seem like the worst days haha.

I was planning on doing in with EPIK, and if public schools are like that, that seems unfortunate.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8054 on: May 30, 2018, 11:38:50 am »
Finally get my life in Korea together, and I'm in a happy place. And my life back home starts falling apart. Now I might have to quit my contract early to go home, meaning a long-distance relationship for the foreseeable future, and pretty much no luck finding a job in Korea should I be able to return later since I'm in a public school. Sometimes I just feel really defeated.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8055 on: May 30, 2018, 11:55:36 am »

Me: screaming internally.

It's either over-excessive niceness, or unnecessary childish pettiness!
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8056 on: May 30, 2018, 11:57:11 am »
I'm getting increasingly impatient and testy these days, but like internally.

I think it's probably because I'm leaving or shits been building for 4 years but anyway. It's just petty stuff too but it just grinds on me.

As an example, one teacher just came in to the office looking for 6 dice.

The conversation went like this. In Korean obvs.

Teacher A: Good morning everyone. I need some dice. Do you have them in here?

Teacher B: Oh teacher I will help you!

Teacher C: I will help you too!

Teacher B: Here are dice.

Teacher C: Yes we have dice.

Teacher B: How many do you need?
If you need more than this we can get more
?

Teacher C: Here are some unopened dice.

Teacher A: I need 6.

Teacher B: Oh there are more in here? Do you want to take more?

Teacher A: I only need 6

Teacher B: Okay then. Well here is the bag but there are more inside.

Teacher C: Trying to grab the bag I can take them out for you.

Teacher A: No it's okay I'll take it. Thank you everyone.

Me: screaming internally.

Tomorow's lesson plan: DICE GAMES

Tomorrow's preparation: As in the office to borrow dice... If they find 6 dice, tell them you need 7!

I use dice sometimes. 

Add an extra element to lessons by writing 6 grammar tenses on the board, and they roll a dice and have to use that grammar to make a sentence using whatever vocab they have learnt that day. 

« Last Edit: May 30, 2018, 11:59:30 am by sligo »


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8057 on: May 30, 2018, 12:01:55 pm »
Is it really necessary to shrink wrap every 2000 won notebook in the stationery store, when many of them don't have the line structure displayed at the back? Am I supposed to guess the layout?

A million notebooks and it's still a challenge to find a notebook that's lined (without any other nonsense), ring bound and no trite "go live a happy dream" and pictures of Paris or some crap.



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8058 on: May 30, 2018, 12:13:11 pm »
But how will you be inspired without a picture of Paris/ Audrey Hepburn/ Marilyn Monroe?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #8059 on: May 30, 2018, 12:15:55 pm »

Me: screaming internally.

It's either over-excessive niceness, or unnecessary childish pettiness!

It's just the over excessive everything.

A 5 minute conversation with lots of back and forth and faffing and fussing for a bag of dice that the teacher could have grabbed off the shelf herself.

Same kind of thing happens when I try to take the plastic recycling out myself. A huge song and dance about helping me and 10 female teachers crowded around the box of super lightweight plastic so we can "carry it together".

I get the reasons for it, and I know what's behind it all and it isn't bad. Just too much now after I've been listening to it for years haha.