RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

I can back up the Viewpoint that it follows people into adulthood, if you don't put a stop to it. My boyfriend has a younger brother, and one of the kids that he hangs out with has had that attitude for a while. He's 18 now and is more aggressive with it than ever. Nobody bothered to put a stop to it because that was just how he was, it was always "oh ignore him, it's just how he is kek."

my boyfriend/myself have tried to put our foot down whenever he does it around us, but everyone else just turns a blind eye to his behavior. It's definitely not a normal thing among high schoolers, it's just becoming more prevalent because of people turning around and ignoring it.

When he was 15, it was just "haha teenage hormones, boys will be boys!" Now that he's an adult it's no longer funny and quirky, it's an issue. If these kids aren't given a quick hit where it hurts the most, they're going to keep doing it and become even more aggressive.

Chinguetti, these things always seem to happen to you and other 'outspoken' women with feminist views. Are you sure the boys are actually doing it intentionally, as opposed to being typical clumsy teenagers?

While I believe 3rd wave feminists exist solely for comedic effect, that's a pretty stupid thing to say. I can't recall a single occasion, as a teenage boy, where I was so clumsy that I managed to fall into someone's boobs with my junk or accidentally mention that I'm a virgin in the hopes of getting lucky with a teacher.

Typical? What kind of teenagers are you used to?

I suspect that Chinguetti is exaggerating or imagining things that are not happening. It seems much more likely than a large number of students intentionally trying to rub against their teacher. For example, she might interpret a boy brushing his upper leg against her arm while squeezing through a gap in tables as an attempt at rubbing against her chest. She interprets innocent mistakes as an attempt at sexual harassment. I'm not saying she is definitely doing that, but it honestly seems the most likely explanation to me.

I think a lot of boys grow out of some of their hormonal excesses. I think a lot are in danger of carrying this behavior into adulthood.

I don't think their behavior is normal. Back home, in my high school we could get pretty obnoxious and people would make some fairly lewd comments to the teachers, but nothing that got physical or veered into threatening harassment.

Now in the halls among students...

Chinguetti, these things always seem to happen to you and other 'outspoken' women with feminist views. Are you sure the boys are actually doing it intentionally, as opposed to being typical clumsy teenagers?

While I believe 3rd wave feminists exist solely for comedic effect, that's a pretty stupid thing to say. I can't recall a single occasion, as a teenage boy, where I was so clumsy that I managed to fall into someone's boobs with my junk or accidentally mention that I'm a virgin in the hopes of getting lucky with a teacher.

Typical? What kind of teenagers are you used to?

StillinKorea is basically an LBH who knows he's full of shit, so he tries to hide a lot of the holes in his argument as "trolling". If and when he realizes that an argument is getting out of his control, he'll default to that as well.
It pretty much just degenerates into personal attacks and LOL JK Y U SO SENSITVE so that he can try to reestablish control by upsetting the other person instead.

I'd swear he was a guy named Neil. This is kind of his MO.

Real trolls aren't as specific about the subjects that they choose, and their patterns go from point A to point B, not from point C to point Z. He's just made of fail, so it's pointless to engage.

I hate how anyone who says anything that the OP doesn't like is a troll.

What happened to this world?

Why is everyone a troll all of a sudden?

Why is cracking a joke or disagreeing with someone's opinion trolling?

Add in the fact that the way Americans pronounce troll/trolling it really does my ****** head in.

*no I'm not trolling. 

While I'm here, here are some more words or expressions that tilt me:

Life hacks
#waygook.org user (name) ....
salty
I can't even
Could care less
*Not quoting the author's name in posts 457 pages long. (eggiebread)

I can back up the Viewpoint that it follows people into adulthood, if you don't put a stop to it.

Yeah, I assumed that was kind of a given. People get more responsible and better behaved the older they get because people tell them to stop behaving badly. If that doesn't work they usually end up falling foul of the law too.

That moment when some Korean ajoshi dude is standing in the middle of the f*cking doorway. I'm about to go wakanda on dat ass in dem baggy sh*tfaced SPAO slacks. 

What I was describing isn't just a bad habit. Stop pretending that it is. The fact that you keep trying to call it a bad habit that teenagers can just "grow out of" is basically trying to excuse it, thereby implying it's a normal part of growing up.

No, that's just your interpretation of what I said as you've Obviously got a bee in your bonnet about this topic. Bad habits can also be criminal behaviour and saying someone will probably grow out of them is in no way condoning them. A lot of teenagers go through phases of petty theft and taking drugs and stop when they get older.

While I'm here, here are some more words or expressions that tilt me:

Life hacks
#waygook.org user (name) ....
salty
I can't even
Could care less
*Not quoting the author's name in posts 457 pages long. (eggiebread)

I'd like to add anything that begins with *sigh*.

The inability to harness the power of apostrophe conservation.

I hate how anyone who says anything that the OP doesn't like is a troll.

What happened to this world?

Why is everyone a troll all of a sudden?

Why is cracking a joke or disagreeing with someone's opinion trolling?

Add in the fact that the way Americans pronounce troll/trolling it really does my ****** head in.

*no I'm not trolling. 

Well, not sure if I was the target here, but just in case, I want to establish that I wasn't actually calling anyone a troll. I was preemptively trying to prevent a certain someone from claiming he was trolling so that he can't try to hide behind it later once his fail becomes a little too much for him to hide. He's done it before, he'll do it again, and I can see the groundwork getting established for it now, so I'm stopping him while he's in the middle of his gaslighting attempt.

As for calling people trolls when they're not actually trolls, it's because people associate trolls with discord. So anytime anyone says anything that causes discord, something that someone else would consider upsetting, they might call it trolling, right or wrong. Depending on how ridiculous or extreme that person's stand is, and this being the internet, that could be legit, especially if they use very questionable logic and methods to support that stand for what appears to be attempt to upset someone(s). The more apparent that attempt is, the more likely it is that they're trolling.

But you're right, sometimes idiots are just idiots, and sometimes unpopular opinions are just unpopular opinions. Not every person who disagrees with you is a troll. But trolls are also everywhere on the internet, and you can blame them for the confusion.

Bloody trolls. Sick of them.

What I was describing isn't just a bad habit. Stop pretending that it is. The fact that you keep trying to call it a bad habit that teenagers can just "grow out of" is basically trying to excuse it, thereby implying it's a normal part of growing up.

No, that's just your interpretation of what I said as you've Obviously got a bee in your bonnet about this topic. Bad habits can also be criminal behaviour and saying someone will probably grow out of them is in no way condoning them. A lot of teenagers go through phases of petty theft and taking drugs and stop when they get older.

Eggie, I'm gonna have to stop talking to you about this. You keep ignoring key points, making false equivalencies and attributions, deflecting and projecting. It's like trying to argue with someone who insists that broccoli didn't come from cabbage because they somehow know better because ??? All of that science, research and history completely doesn't matter, but a subjective "nuh-uh" somehow does.

You're trying to redefine definitions and split hairs to better fit your world view so that you can win an internet argument, and it almost feels like it's because you've got some kind of personal investment in the outcome falling on your side, which is concerning. There's just no winning against that kind (or lack) of logic.

But you're just wrong. Period. Most everyone agrees with that, so I don't really need to keep making the point.

I hate how anyone who says anything that the OP doesn't like is a troll.

What happened to this world?

Why is everyone a troll all of a sudden?

Why is cracking a joke or disagreeing with someone's opinion trolling?

Add in the fact that the way Americans pronounce troll/trolling it really does my ****** head in.

*no I'm not trolling. 

Well, not sure if I was the target here, but just in case, I want to establish that I wasn't actually calling anyone a troll. I was preemptively trying to prevent a certain someone from claiming he was trolling so that he can't try to hide behind it later once his fail becomes a little too much for him to hide. He's done it before, he'll do it again, and I can see the groundwork getting established for it now, so I'm stopping him while he's in the middle of his gaslighting attempt.

As for calling people trolls when they're not actually trolls, it's because people associate trolls with discord. So anytime anyone says anything that causes discord, something that someone else would consider upsetting, they might call it trolling, right or wrong. Depending on how ridiculous or extreme that person's stand is, and this being the internet, that could be legit, especially if they use very questionable logic and methods to support that stand for what appears to be attempt to upset someone(s). The more apparent that attempt is, the more likely it is that they're trolling.

But you're right, sometimes idiots are just idiots, and sometimes unpopular opinions are just unpopular opinions. Not every person who disagrees with you is a troll. But trolls are also everywhere on the internet, and you can blame them for the confusion.

Not at you at everyone on planet earth at the moment.

Additions:

Grey's humdrum one liners
signatures that take up half the page
apologist
gyopo
posters that don't even live in Korea posting on here everyday jog on and join your local community centre instead

What I was describing isn't just a bad habit. Stop pretending that it is. The fact that you keep trying to call it a bad habit that teenagers can just "grow out of" is basically trying to excuse it, thereby implying it's a normal part of growing up.

No, that's just your interpretation of what I said as you've Obviously got a bee in your bonnet about this topic. Bad habits can also be criminal behaviour and saying someone will probably grow out of them is in no way condoning them. A lot of teenagers go through phases of petty theft and taking drugs and stop when they get older.

Eggie, I'm gonna have to stop talking to you about this. You keep ignoring key points, making false equivalencies and attributions, deflecting and projecting. It's like trying to argue with someone who insists that broccoli didn't come from cabbage because they somehow know better because ??? All of that science, research and history completely doesn't matter, but a subjective "nuh-uh" somehow does.

You're trying to redefine definitions and split hairs to better fit your world view so that you can win an internet argument, and it almost feels like it's because you've got some kind of personal investment in the outcome falling on your side, which is concerning. There's just no winning against that kind (or lack) of logic.

But you're just wrong. Period. Most everyone agrees with that, so I don't really need to keep making the point.

So, in general teenagers who inappropriately touch people, go on to become serial sex-abusers and don't mend their ways? No I don't agree with that, so I guess we will agree to differ.

I hate how anyone who says anything that the OP doesn't like is a troll.

What happened to this world?

Why is everyone a troll all of a sudden?

Why is cracking a joke or disagreeing with someone's opinion trolling?

Add in the fact that the way Americans pronounce troll/trolling it really does my ****** head in.

*no I'm not trolling. 

Trolling 

American pronunciation is like nails on a chalkboard for me sometimes.

Chinguetti, these things always seem to happen to you and other 'outspoken' women with feminist views. Are you sure the boys are actually doing it intentionally, as opposed to being typical clumsy teenagers?

While I believe 3rd wave feminists exist solely for comedic effect, that's a pretty stupid thing to say. I can't recall a single occasion, as a teenage boy, where I was so clumsy that I managed to fall into someone's boobs with my junk or accidentally mention that I'm a virgin in the hopes of getting lucky with a teacher.

Typical? What kind of teenagers are you used to?

StillinKorea is basically an LBH who knows he's full of shit, so he tries to hide a lot of the holes in his argument as "trolling". If and when he realizes that an argument is getting out of his control, he'll default to that as well.
It pretty much just degenerates into personal attacks and LOL JK Y U SO SENSITVE so that he can try to reestablish control by upsetting the other person instead.

I'd swear he was a guy named Neil. This is kind of his MO.

Real trolls aren't as specific about the subjects that they choose, and their patterns go from point A to point B, not from point C to point Z. He's just made of fail, so it's pointless to engage.

Yeah, I'm not trolling here. I genuinely think you're paranoid and interpret random things as an attack on women. It's unfortunate that you take that attitude to work.

Not called Neil.

Yeah, I'm not trolling here. I genuinely think you're paranoid and interpret random things as an attack on women. It's unfortunate that you take that attitude to work.

Not called Neil.

No, you're not ready to make that claim, yet, and I'm not going to give you an opportunity to. Everyone else has already made it very clear that they know what you're all about, so it's pointless to clap back at your gaslighting. You are what you are.