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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7780 on: April 26, 2018, 02:43:54 pm »
Pennypie:
Why would I bring it up?  Is that a rhetorical question?  If someone had had to have a justifiable reason for bringing things up on here this board would be the tumbleweed populated site that the café has become.  I imagine, like most, I'm on here out of sheer boredom with deskwarming.  Boredom leads to nit picking. Simple as that.  I don't guess there are many of us who are getting on here between work hours.

Haha very true.

Nothing to argue or nitpick. Darn!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7781 on: April 27, 2018, 09:52:59 am »
In case anyone hasn't already realized, the Korean internet user experience is unbelievably, unfathomably, ridiculously @#%&#  :blank:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7782 on: April 27, 2018, 11:59:33 am »

There will be a Korean teacher officially assigned to 'your' class. She is liable for anything that happens and technically she should be in the room with you. She'll no doubt be shopping on her computer, or drinking instant coffee with extremely sweet bread while gossiping about someone with another Korean teacher, but officially she's in the classroom. She'd probably try to pin the blame on you if something happened, but she is responsible.

I think that only applies to classes that are part of the textbook curriculum,  whereas "after school" classes are different. I used to teach after school classes alone, and I grumbled about it at one of our mandatory monthly POE meetings, and the coordinator told us that schools don't actually have to provide a CoT for those classes.

If I remember correctly, Bingsu is a TALK teacher doing all or mostly after school classes. She might be SOL in the coteacher department, unless her school opts to provide her with on out of the kindness of their hearts.  :laugh:

How does that play out for liability purposes, though? They can opt out, but I'm pretty sure the school could and would still be held responsible for anything that happens in the classroom, regardless of its claim, and should anything actually happen they'd still be facing a lot of scrutiny if a KT wasn't present. They might try to shimmy out of it by using some wayward logic or technicalities, but as far as I know it still falls on them because the classroom is still school property being used for school purposes, and most NETs operate under E2 visas.

Anyone know otherwise?


Like everything it depends on the situation.

I just asked my co teachers.

If a student is hurt in a accidental situation, under your solo care or not. The school insurance will pay.

If a student is hurt and it can be proven in law it's because of you. Then you are responsible however the school insurance will probably still pay for the students medical care and the parents will take you to civil court.

If a student is hurt and the parents say it's because you didn't care about them, then it's your "moral responsibility" and maybe the school will be pissed but legally they should protect you.

If you're hurt on school property during the working time set out in your contract then the school will pay.

If you are out of school, without permission, and get hurt, then it will become a big thing and the school will get in trouble with the POE/MOE. As unlikely as this is, some schools just prefer to follow the rules.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7783 on: April 27, 2018, 12:04:12 pm »
In case anyone hasn't already realized, the Korean internet user experience is unbelievably, unfathomably, ridiculously @#%&#  :blank:

I don't know. The internet is fast, stable, and cheap. I can't complain.

Yup, it's fast.
But,
Internet Explorer...........




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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7784 on: April 27, 2018, 12:32:47 pm »
In case anyone hasn't already realized, the Korean internet user experience is unbelievably, unfathomably, ridiculously @#%&#  :blank:

I don't know. The internet is fast, stable, and cheap. I can't complain.

Yup, it's fast.
But,
Internet Explorer...........

Anyone who says the internet here is good is a ****** moron.

-Porn banned
-Gambling banned
-Anything you want to buy...ID number (government watching you/companies tracking you/advertisers data mining you)
- Internet explorer and pop ups, add ons and computer clogging programs just to buy something trivial.
- Government age censorship on youtube videos with bad words in. Come on man. (oh just fill in this form...won't accept name  :lipsrsealed:)
-Netflix age verification (same as above- just ask a Korean. **** off. Shouldn't have to ask anyone to watch Breaking bad).

Yeah, it's fast and cheap but at what cost?

And don't say use a VPN. Go **** yourself.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 12:36:20 pm by AvecPommesFrites »
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7785 on: April 27, 2018, 12:45:14 pm »
What's wrong with using vpns? Chrome comes with one built in, kinda.

I mean, one shouldn't have to use a VPN, but it's only 30 seconds of effort and then you have that fast and cheap internet... *plus* the satisfaction that your stickin' it to the man, man!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7786 on: April 27, 2018, 12:56:11 pm »
What's wrong with using vpns? Chrome comes with one built in, kinda.

I mean, one shouldn't have to use a VPN, but it's only 30 seconds of effort and then you have that fast and cheap internet... *plus* the satisfaction that your stickin' it to the man, man!

Yup, VPNs are always good. But be more specific, I've spent literally all day just trying to sign in to NEIS, and Internet Explorer isn't playing nice.

I'll be a web developer once I get outta here, and it's just boggles the mind that developing for Internet Explorer first (and often only) is the standard here.

IE just needs to die.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7787 on: April 28, 2018, 06:07:30 am »
What's wrong with using vpns? Chrome comes with one built in, kinda.

I mean, one shouldn't have to use a VPN, but it's only 30 seconds of effort and then you have that fast and cheap internet... *plus* the satisfaction that your stickin' it to the man, man!

Yup, VPNs are always good. But be more specific, I've spent literally all day just trying to sign in to NEIS, and Internet Explorer isn't playing nice.

I'll be a web developer once I get outta here, and it's just boggles the mind that developing for Internet Explorer first (and often only) is the standard here.

IE just needs to die.

Microsoft already killed it.

Just yesterday, Mr. Pizza’s website had a pop-up saying I wouldn’t be able to pay with another browser. They did have it early, so I was saved the additional frustration of loading up a cart before discovering this fact.

Another Korean web design habit that frustrates me it the overuse of .jpg images of text. This makes it difficult to select a word to translate, or an address to plug into SatNav, or a phone number to call.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7788 on: April 28, 2018, 08:33:36 am »
if i wanted to be a web developer in korea, and i went to university to learn, would they be teaching me to use IE and overlay jpegs on websites?

all korean websites are hideous-looking, not very functional and are filled with errors. i don't understand how it's 2018 and this still is the case


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7789 on: April 28, 2018, 11:59:33 am »
Yup. Microsoft killed a long time ago. By needs to die, I mean that people need to just stop developing for it and move on. It's dinosaur technology.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7790 on: April 28, 2018, 01:41:22 pm »
If some of the sites used Edge, it wouldn't be so bad. Edge isn't that horrible and works well enough.

But no, they actually want IE, not Edge. My laptop struggled to even run it, and this dino is from 2013.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7791 on: April 28, 2018, 07:12:31 pm »
if i wanted to be a web developer in korea, and i went to university to learn, would they be teaching me to use IE and overlay jpegs on websites?

all korean websites are hideous-looking, not very functional and are filled with errors. i don't understand how it's 2018 and this still is the case

Completely agree! 


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7792 on: April 29, 2018, 01:25:19 am »
if i wanted to be a web developer in korea, and i went to university to learn, would they be teaching me to use IE and overlay jpegs on websites?

all korean websites are hideous-looking, not very functional and are filled with errors. i don't understand how it's 2018 and this still is the case

Completely agree!

Back in the 90s, some bright spark had the idea making Active X security a legal requirement for every Korean website handling sensitive data. Active X was already outdated by the 90s, but this asshat decided he knew better. So, pretty much every Korean business with a website was forced to use it. As we know, Active X only works with IE, and since Microsoft itself called out it's failure and scrapped it, it only works properly on the oldest versions of IE.

Korean businesses are now stuck with it, as the switch to Chrome would mean every Korean businesses would have to do a total IT overhaul. There's not much motivation either. Less than 5% of the internet, outside of Daum and Naver is in Korean so, Koreans stick with it.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7793 on: April 29, 2018, 03:28:14 am »
Yeah, it's fast and cheap but....
Porn, gambling and censorship are your beefs but 95% of the time I couldn't care less about those things.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7794 on: April 30, 2018, 08:23:19 am »
Yeah, it's fast and cheap but....
Porn, gambling and censorship are your beefs but 95% of the time I couldn't care less about those things.
He's not really complaining about internet but Korean law.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7795 on: April 30, 2018, 08:35:09 am »
Yeah, it's fast and cheap but....
Porn, gambling and censorship are your beefs but 95% of the time I couldn't care less about those things.
He's not really complaining about internet but Korean law.

A) She's
B) It's not law it's just a bunch of Christian **** boys who want porn blocked.
C) What else do people use the internet for?
Soggy undergarments


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7796 on: April 30, 2018, 09:43:22 am »
Was told that all of my classes were canceled today, but learned last minute that wasn't true.

It's like real-life Portal.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7797 on: April 30, 2018, 09:44:50 am »
Students : Shocked and talking about my hair (Had a hair disaster. Hair is now weird silver purple and greeny gold orange?)
Co teacher: They are talking about your hair.
Me: Haha yeah I know.
Me to students: It's not finished yet haha.
Co teacher: They don't understand.

Sorry bitchy but if they don't understand just ****** tell them then.

I had a weird weekend, got back at midnight last night with weird hair, and I just can't be arsed to hold your hand and guide you through what you're supposed to do.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7798 on: April 30, 2018, 09:47:14 am »
Was told that all of my classes were canceled today, but learned last minute that wasn't true.

It's like real-life Portal.

Me too. It's so disappointing.  :cry:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7799 on: April 30, 2018, 09:47:29 am »
Was told that all of my classes were canceled today, but learned last minute that wasn't true.

It's like real-life Portal.

This was a triumph!
I'm making a note here:
Huge success!

It's hard to overstate
my satisfaction.

Aperture Science:
We do what we must
because we can
For the good of all of us.
Except the ones who are dead.

But there's no sense crying
over every mistake.
You just keep on trying
'til you run out of cake.
And the science gets done.
And you make a neat gun
for the people who are
still alive.

I'm not even angry...
I'm being so sincere right now.
Even though you broke my heart,
and killed me.

And tore me to pieces.
And threw every piece into a fire.
As they burned it hurt because
I was so happy for you!

Now, these points of data
make a beautiful line.
And we're out of beta.
We're releasing on time!
So I'm GLaD I got burned!
Think of all the things we learned!
for the people who are
still alive.

Go ahead and leave me...
I think I'd prefer to stay inside...
Maybe you'll find someone else
to help you.
Maybe Black Mesa?
That was a joke. Ha Ha. Fat Chance!

Anyway this cake is great!
It's so delicious and moist!

Look at me: still talking
when there's science to do!
When I look out there,
it makes me glad I'm not you.

I've experiments to run.
There is research to be done.
On the people who are
still alive.
And believe me I am
still alive.
I'm doing science and I'm
still alive.
I feel fantastic and I'm
still alive.
While you're dying I'll be
still alive.
And when you're dead I will be
still alive

Still alive.

Still alive.

(Sorry, your comment made me think of this song. :P )