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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7340 on: February 09, 2018, 08:05:29 am »


  • HaLo3
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7341 on: February 09, 2018, 08:34:20 am »
Much better; thank you.

:)

Anytime. :afro:
I love The IT Crowd! And that would have been quite the story.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7342 on: February 21, 2018, 08:49:56 am »
Deskwarming is boring and irritating. I only have 8 days left in this country, and I could be out sightseeing or packing but nooooo. I have to come to school and sit here.  :rolleyes:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7343 on: February 21, 2018, 08:52:09 am »
I've heard of things like this happening to other people, I never dreamed it would happen to me.

I took vacation days Monday and yesterday.  I come back today, and I see the cars in the parking lot.  I get to the teachers' room.  It is locked and empty.  I think maybe the teachers are in a meeting, so I go to the multipurpose room and then the gym.  Both empty. 

I don't know what to think.  Zombie apocalypse?  Alien abduction?  Did I miss the rapture?

I call my coT and another T.  Neither answer. 

I send my coT a text.  She responds that they'll all in another city for training.

It would have been so nice to be told.   :rolleyes:



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7344 on: February 21, 2018, 09:48:27 am »
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I've heard of things like this happening to other people, I never dreamed it would happen to me.

I took vacation days Monday and yesterday.  I come back today, and I see the cars in the parking lot.  I get to the teachers' room.  It is locked and empty.  I think maybe the teachers are in a meeting, so I go to the multipurpose room and then the gym.  Both empty. 

I don't know what to think.  Zombie apocalypse?  Alien abduction?  Did I miss the rapture?

I call my coT and another T.  Neither answer. 

I send my coT a text.  She responds that they'll all in another city for training.

It would have been so nice to be told.

Tell them to enjoy their day at the Olympics.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7345 on: February 21, 2018, 09:49:15 am »
Deskwarming is boring and irritating. I only have 8 days left in this country, and I could be out sightseeing or packing but nooooo. I have to come to school and sit here.  :rolleyes:

I'm in the same boat. Take solace in how diligent you are currently being.

Jokes aside, I feel like if you're not renewing you should have 2 "clear out" days where you can stay home and sort your sh*t out. It's not too much to ask considering they cut vacation days from 21 to 18 out of sheer spite.

The resentment at the moment is strong. I didn't mind too much at first since it gave me a reason to jump out of bed, but not this week. This is an absurd waste of time.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7346 on: February 21, 2018, 10:06:53 am »
Deskwarming is boring and irritating. I only have 8 days left in this country, and I could be out sightseeing or packing but nooooo. I have to come to school and sit here.  :rolleyes:

same same. it's my last week, contract ends at the end of this week. have had to come in the whole week and i am doing literally nothing.

my desk is all cleaned out, no lessons to prepare since i'm leaving the country, but nope, gotta come in and sit here all day for 8 hours doing sweet f-all because "it is what the contract says".  :rolleyes: meanwhile none of the korean teachers are here, despite the fact that classes start next week.

it's insane. the NET who has nothing to do and is leaving the country has to come to work, but the korean teachers who should have classes and paperwork to prepare are scratching their hairy balls at home.

not going to miss this country or this job one bit.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7347 on: February 21, 2018, 10:12:32 am »
Deskwarming is boring and irritating. I only have 8 days left in this country, and I could be out sightseeing or packing but nooooo. I have to come to school and sit here.  :rolleyes:

same same. it's my last week, contract ends at the end of this week. have had to come in the whole week and i am doing literally nothing.

my desk is all cleaned out, no lessons to prepare since i'm leaving the country, but nope, gotta come in and sit here all day for 8 hours doing sweet f-all because "it is what the contract says".  :rolleyes: meanwhile none of the korean teachers are here, despite the fact that classes start next week.

it's insane. the NET who has nothing to do and is leaving the country has to come to work, but the korean teachers who should have classes and paperwork to prepare are scratching their hairy balls at home.

not going to miss this country or this job one bit.

Seems a few of us are in the same annoying position. Leaving for good then? What do you have planned for life after Korea if you don't mind me asking?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7348 on: February 21, 2018, 10:21:11 am »
Me: *Spends all of the winter break preparing lessons for the new semester*

My Co-Teacher, one week before the semester starts: There will be a new curriculum, and a new textbook!

 :huh: :undecided: :rolleyes:
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7349 on: February 21, 2018, 10:30:30 am »
they cut vacation days from 21 to 18 out of sheer spite.

Not spite. The purpose of that was to be able to fit in more English camp days during the break / get more work out of the native English teacher.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7350 on: February 21, 2018, 10:35:06 am »
Me: *Spends all of the winter break preparing lessons for the new semester*

My Co-Teacher, one week before the semester starts: There will be a new curriculum, and a new textbook!

 :huh: :undecided: :rolleyes:

Don't you just love being kept in the loop?!  :P


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7351 on: February 21, 2018, 10:35:45 am »
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Seems a few of us are in the same annoying position. Leaving for good then? What do you have planned for life after Korea if you don't mind me asking?

Same situation here. My plan? Return home (US), see family, buy a car and drive to Moab/Canyonlands area and camp and hike for several weeks. Relatively no people, fresh air, and no internet. The exact opposite of this country. Then, hitting up Denver for some much needed greenery time. After that headed to glacier national park for work.

Glad to have experienced this job but it wasn't what I had thought it was when applying.

How about you?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7352 on: February 21, 2018, 10:38:18 am »
Why oh why did they split my holidays by bringing me back from abroad for 4 effin days of deskwarming!!!! 4 days!!!!  I mean, I did absolutley nothing in those 4 days. Zilch!!!! The kids were eating pizza and watching movies but I had to come back as I had to "work".


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7353 on: February 21, 2018, 10:50:05 am »
Deskwarming is boring and irritating. I only have 8 days left in this country, and I could be out sightseeing or packing but nooooo. I have to come to school and sit here.  :rolleyes:

same same. it's my last week, contract ends at the end of this week. have had to come in the whole week and i am doing literally nothing.

my desk is all cleaned out, no lessons to prepare since i'm leaving the country, but nope, gotta come in and sit here all day for 8 hours doing sweet f-all because "it is what the contract says".  :rolleyes: meanwhile none of the korean teachers are here, despite the fact that classes start next week.

it's insane. the NET who has nothing to do and is leaving the country has to come to work, but the korean teachers who should have classes and paperwork to prepare are scratching their hairy balls at home.

not going to miss this country or this job one bit.

Complains about Koreans not following contracts, complains when he has to follow the contract.

You signed the contract. You have to show up and be there. Besides, you're getting paid money to literally DO NOTHING.

You clearly have never worked an hourly pay job in which if you didn't get enough hours per pay period, you might not be able to go out and have fun or pay a bill. You also have clearly never done a job involving hard labor.
The Korean teachers don't have to come in because they are on a different contract and have different rights and privileges that are enabled through collective bargaining and being certified teachers and members of their respective unions.

Spoiled NET: "What do you do to earn you salary for the month?"
Person Who Does Manual Labor: "I have to be on site at 6AM and we don't leave until the project is finished. During that time I carry heavy objects while exposed to the elements, do energy expending repetitive motion work, and risk maiming. How about you?"
Spoiled NET: My boss is making me come in and sit at my desk and watch Netflix so I get paid. Screw this job. They're horrible. They won't let me off work and still pay me so I can run around town taking pictures for my Instagram account.

 :rolleyes:

Anyone who whines and moans about deskwarming should be handed a shovel and told to dig ditches for 12 hours.

When I first started working, I once made the mistake of saying the words "This sucks. I've got nothing to do." while it was dead and we were just staring into space but couldn't get sent home yet. My manager promptly said "You want something to do? Go take down the ceiling panels and clean them."

That taught me about ever complaining about sitting around with nothing to do while getting paid good money to do it.

Now before you go and say "That's tyrannical." You know what it did? It instilled a work ethic, so that when I became manager (and even before then) sometimes during dead periods we would find things to do like clean this or do that or get something ready for the next shift to make their job easier.

Maybe you should do the same. Print out some stuff for the next teacher. Spruce up the classroom. Organize some files. If you're coming back next semester, get started on some plans and materials. Organize some books. Take out some trash.

"My school is selfish they never think of me."
"So what are you doing for the school or the next teacher?"
"Nothing, that's not my problem."

 :rolleyes:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7354 on: February 21, 2018, 10:54:43 am »
Steels. The good little Korean drone worker.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7355 on: February 21, 2018, 11:13:05 am »
Anyone knows that contracts in this country are more of a guide; a framework in which certain things can be negotiated, rather than something that has to be followed to the tee. Of course, salary isn't flexible, but, given certain situations, a little leeway could be given.

If it's vacation time, and the NET has nothing to do, a logical and sensible thing to do would allow the NET to "work from home" or something along those lines. This has nothing to do with digging ditches or hard labour; it's basic, common sense.

Some folks such as myself have had to return from abroad to deskwarm for less than a week and then be given our remaining vacation. This is incredibly stupid. Even if I wanted to stay in this school, that would have been to deal breaker there. There is no reason at all that they have to follow the contract so closely. Some schools have principals or VPs that are a little more forgiving; a little smarter and less anal retentive. A friend had his 24 days off in a row which is how it should be.



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7356 on: February 21, 2018, 12:04:41 pm »
Anyone knows that contracts in this country are more of a guide; a framework in which certain things can be negotiated, rather than something that has to be followed to the tee. Of course, salary isn't flexible, but, given certain situations, a little leeway could be given.

If it's vacation time, and the NET has nothing to do, a logical and sensible thing to do would allow the NET to "work from home" or something along those lines. This has nothing to do with digging ditches or hard labour; it's basic, common sense.

Some folks such as myself have had to return from abroad to deskwarm for less than a week and then be given our remaining vacation. This is incredibly stupid. Even if I wanted to stay in this school, that would have been to deal breaker there. There is no reason at all that they have to follow the contract so closely. Some schools have principals or VPs that are a little more forgiving; a little smarter and less anal retentive. A friend had his 24 days off in a row which is how it should be.

No one forced you to sign the contract. The contract said X number of days working. Now at the time you signed, if they said 10 of your working days would involve you coming in, orfering Chinese food and watching Netflix, would you have refused to sign? Would you rather be doing English camp?

As far as flexibility, if you point to the contract and howl about coming in on a Saturday two times a year or staying late a few times, don't complain when you're forced to deskwarm!!!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7357 on: February 21, 2018, 12:11:17 pm »
Dude, just let people rant and vent. That's what this thread is for. If you want to bring your apologetics into specific threads people start to discuss these things, fine, fair play. For Pete's sake, though, try to leave your nonsense out of this thread. Nobody likes it, and you aren't changing anybody's minds.

And yes, before you point it out, I know you think ranting and venting don't actually help, and have some studies you like to link to back that up. I don't care. Nobody cares.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7358 on: February 21, 2018, 12:13:40 pm »
Seems a few of us are in the same annoying position. Leaving for good then? What do you have planned for life after Korea if you don't mind me asking?

i got a job teaching a content subject at an international high school in another country. i don't have a teaching certificate, but have a Master's degree in what i'm going to be teaching, and have previous experience teaching it.

the pay is only a little bit more but i was earning 2.8 mil here in Korea, so already on the high end. real chance of career advancement. 15-18 teaching hours per week, fully-paid summer and winter vacation + national holidays - about 3 months of vacation total. no deskwarming or summer and winter camps (i asked). 2-bedroom apartment, fully furnished and paid for.

EFL in korea is really going  downhill, even at the university level. teaching content subjects is where it's going to be at in the near-to-long-term future at the university level, imo anyway. get an MA in a content subject and a teaching certificate and a ton of great jobs in all sorts of different countries will open themselves up to you.

either that or get an MA TESOL and actually do research and publish - something that a lot of these university 'professors' seem to be averse to - and get a job as an actual professor, not just an instructor, which is what the vast majority of these 'professors' actually are.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7359 on: February 21, 2018, 12:25:14 pm »
Dude, just let people rant and vent. That's what this thread is for. If you want to bring your apologetics into specific threads people start to discuss these things, fine, fair play. For Pete's sake, though, try to leave your nonsense out of this thread. Nobody likes it, and you aren't changing anybody's minds.

And yes, before you point it out, I know you think ranting and venting don't actually help, and have some studies you like to link to back that up. I don't care. Nobody cares.

I'm ranting and venting at their rants and vents.  :laugh:

It really is a truly incomprehensible stance that deserves a good rant and vent.

Complaining about getting paid money to sit around and do nothing. Wow.