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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6900 on: September 29, 2017, 09:33:16 am »
On minimum wages in Canada:

My socialist cousin (who I love, don't get me wrong, he's a great guy) recently linked to an article on Facebook that stated with minimum wage at $15/h, and the average rent in Toronto is $2000/month, so poverty.

Does one expect to live an AVERAGE life (in Toronto) at MINIMUM wage (for the province)? Should shop owners in Timmins pay thier high school part-time help enough for a flat at Yonge and Bloor?

It is really hard to have a serious discussion when rediculous numbers are presented like this.

I'm curious how minimum wage would be in Timmins if it was adjusted with productivity. Understandably it is more expensive to live at Yonge and Bloor (poor choice), but maybe the minimum in Timmins should be raised from its current provincial level.

Businesses are of course looking to cut costs, but maybe they should be nudged to pay employees more reasonably.

I think I support an age-based minimum wage. The high school student is always cited as why the minimum can't be raised, so cap the high school minimum at 80% the full minimum, or something less than the 18/19+ amount.

I think there are countries that do something like that, but I do not know how effective age-adjusted rates are.
There is an age based minimum wage in Ontario. When I was there 2 years ago, student min wage was about 9$ and minimum was around 12$. Also take into account that food, especially fruits and vegetables in bigger cities is less. If you go up to Haliburton it's like 10$ for a bag of potatoes that would cost 4$ in the GTA. Since Ontario's big they charge out the butt for shipping products outside of Southern Ontario. My family has a cottage up north and it's crazy expensive if you want produce in the middle of nowhere, so that cost of living is higher while housing is cheaper.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6901 on: September 29, 2017, 09:43:43 am »
Today is picnic/career day for the kiddos. CT assured me there would be school lunch today.

Just checked the school website. No lunch.

Go to a cafe or go home and make your own. Don't put up with not getting any lunch.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6902 on: September 29, 2017, 10:01:12 am »
Today is picnic/career day for the kiddos. CT assured me there would be school lunch today.

Just checked the school website. No lunch.

Go to a cafe or go home and make your own. Don't put up with not getting any lunch.

Your school might be providing one for the staff. They might be ordering delivery. Check first.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6903 on: September 29, 2017, 10:01:59 am »
On minimum wages in Canada:

My socialist cousin (who I love, don't get me wrong, he's a great guy) recently linked to an article on Facebook that stated with minimum wage at $15/h, and the average rent in Toronto is $2000/month, so poverty.

Does one expect to live an AVERAGE life (in Toronto) at MINIMUM wage (for the province)? Should shop owners in Timmins pay thier high school part-time help enough for a flat at Yonge and Bloor?

It is really hard to have a serious discussion when rediculous numbers are presented like this.

I'm curious how minimum wage would be in Timmins if it was adjusted with productivity. Understandably it is more expensive to live at Yonge and Bloor (poor choice), but maybe the minimum in Timmins should be raised from its current provincial level.

Businesses are of course looking to cut costs, but maybe they should be nudged to pay employees more reasonably.

I think I support an age-based minimum wage. The high school student is always cited as why the minimum can't be raised, so cap the high school minimum at 80% the full minimum, or something less than the 18/19+ amount.

I think there are countries that do something like that, but I do not know how effective age-adjusted rates are.
There is an age based minimum wage in Ontario. When I was there 2 years ago, student min wage was about 9$ and minimum was around 12$. Also take into account that food, especially fruits and vegetables in bigger cities is less. If you go up to Haliburton it's like 10$ for a bag of potatoes that would cost 4$ in the GTA. Since Ontario's big they charge out the butt for shipping products outside of Southern Ontario. My family has a cottage up north and it's crazy expensive if you want produce in the middle of nowhere, so that cost of living is higher while housing is cheaper.

Those are cottage country prices, not "out of Toronto" prices.

Source: lived in Pickering, North Bay, Kincardine, and Listowel


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6904 on: September 29, 2017, 10:04:05 am »
WTF is the point of me coming all the way to my furthest school after exams? Why do I have to spend money to come babysit them? Guess I'm watching the first 45 minutes of Spiderman: Homecoming a lot today.

It's a hard life.

The horror of fulfilling your contract and being paid decent money to sit around watching TV for 8 hours.

All those billions of people farming, digging, mining, chopping, fixing, serving, and hauling are laughing at you for having such a terrible job that abuses you in such a fashion.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6905 on: September 29, 2017, 10:42:07 am »
It is picnic day. So it is just me and the security guard in the entire school. Well, I can't find anyone else. I really need to find someone else. I went for a wee walk outside on the track and the security guy is really quite upset that I am here, telling me over and over again that there are no students, asking why I am here and getting very frustrated with me even I am trying to tell him I have to be here in the little Korean that I can manage. He also has just gone round and locked all the doors except the one entrance at the kindi. I'm just going to sit here in my classroom now and not move. Which sucks because I was going to go to the CU store for lunch, but it seems it would be safer to remain where I am in case I get locked out or something.  :shocked: :shocked:
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6906 on: September 29, 2017, 10:42:38 am »
Today is picnic/career day for the kiddos. CT assured me there would be school lunch today.

Just checked the school website. No lunch.

Go to a cafe or go home and make your own. Don't put up with not getting any lunch.

Your school might be providing one for the staff. They might be ordering delivery. Check first.

Yeah, I totally would've found something to eat, that was never a worry.

But I checked and yes, there is lunch for the teachers. Was kinda looking forward to sneaking off for some forbidden food, though.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6907 on: September 29, 2017, 10:45:05 am »
It is picnic day. So it is just me and the security guard in the entire school. Well, I can't find anyone else. I really need to find someone else. I went for a wee walk outside on the track and the security guy is really quite upset that I am here, telling me over and over again that there are no students, asking why I am here and getting very frustrated with me even I am trying to tell him I have to be here in the little Korean that I can manage. He also has just gone round and locked all the doors except the one entrance at the kindi. I'm just going to sit here in my classroom now and not move. Which sucks because I was going to go to the CU store for lunch, but it seems it would be safer to remain where I am in case I get locked out or something.  :shocked: :shocked:


Getting locked out is a great excuse for a half day


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6908 on: September 29, 2017, 10:50:47 am »
It is picnic day. So it is just me and the security guard in the entire school. Well, I can't find anyone else. I really need to find someone else. I went for a wee walk outside on the track and the security guy is really quite upset that I am here, telling me over and over again that there are no students, asking why I am here and getting very frustrated with me even I am trying to tell him I have to be here in the little Korean that I can manage. He also has just gone round and locked all the doors except the one entrance at the kindi. I'm just going to sit here in my classroom now and not move. Which sucks because I was going to go to the CU store for lunch, but it seems it would be safer to remain where I am in case I get locked out or something.  :shocked: :shocked:


Getting locked out is a great excuse for a half day

I would get docked for that half day I can assure you.
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
-A.A. Milne


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6909 on: September 29, 2017, 11:18:55 am »
WTF is the point of me coming all the way to my furthest school after exams? Why do I have to spend money to come babysit them? Guess I'm watching the first 45 minutes of Spiderman: Homecoming a lot today.

It's a hard life.

The horror of fulfilling your contract and being paid decent money to sit around watching TV for 8 hours.

All those billions of people farming, digging, mining, chopping, fixing, serving, and hauling are laughing at you for having such a terrible job that abuses you in such a fashion.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was the ranting thread, not the "DM please tell me your opinion" thread. Perhaps this thread should be shut down because our lives are better than a countless amount of people.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 11:21:21 am by jddavis7 »


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6910 on: September 29, 2017, 11:22:27 am »
WTF is the point of me coming all the way to my furthest school after exams? Why do I have to spend money to come babysit them? Guess I'm watching the first 45 minutes of Spiderman: Homecoming a lot today.

It's a hard life.

The horror of fulfilling your contract and being paid decent money to sit around watching TV for 8 hours.

All those billions of people farming, digging, mining, chopping, fixing, serving, and hauling are laughing at you for having such a terrible job that abuses you in such a fashion.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was the ranting thread, not the "DM please tell me your opinion" thread. Perhaps this thread should be shut down because our lives are better than a countless amount of people.

No, it can stay open, but from now on try to only complain about things that are worse than anything anyone else in the world is dealing with.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6911 on: September 29, 2017, 11:29:02 am »
It is picnic day. So it is just me and the security guard in the entire school. Well, I can't find anyone else. I really need to find someone else. I went for a wee walk outside on the track and the security guy is really quite upset that I am here, telling me over and over again that there are no students, asking why I am here and getting very frustrated with me even I am trying to tell him I have to be here in the little Korean that I can manage. He also has just gone round and locked all the doors except the one entrance at the kindi. I'm just going to sit here in my classroom now and not move. Which sucks because I was going to go to the CU store for lunch, but it seems it would be safer to remain where I am in case I get locked out or something.  :shocked: :shocked:


Getting locked out is a great excuse for a half day

I would get docked for that half day I can assure you.

Is there someplace you can order food from?  Sounds like a good excuse for delivery, if possible!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6912 on: September 29, 2017, 03:39:22 pm »
WTF is the point of me coming all the way to my furthest school after exams? Why do I have to spend money to come babysit them? Guess I'm watching the first 45 minutes of Spiderman: Homecoming a lot today.

It's a hard life.

The horror of fulfilling your contract and being paid decent money to sit around watching TV for 8 hours.

All those billions of people farming, digging, mining, chopping, fixing, serving, and hauling are laughing at you for having such a terrible job that abuses you in such a fashion.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was the ranting thread, not the "DM please tell me your opinion" thread. Perhaps this thread should be shut down because our lives are better than a countless amount of people.

Fair enough. I'm angry because the Chateau LeBlanc 1968 my school served me was supposed to be slightly chilled, but mine was distinctly room temperature.

What are we? Animals?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6913 on: September 29, 2017, 06:42:07 pm »
WTF is the point of me coming all the way to my furthest school after exams? Why do I have to spend money to come babysit them? Guess I'm watching the first 45 minutes of Spiderman: Homecoming a lot today.

It's a hard life.

The horror of fulfilling your contract and being paid decent money to sit around watching TV for 8 hours.

All those billions of people farming, digging, mining, chopping, fixing, serving, and hauling are laughing at you for having such a terrible job that abuses you in such a fashion.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was the ranting thread, not the "DM please tell me your opinion" thread. Perhaps this thread should be shut down because our lives are better than a countless amount of people.

Fair enough. I'm angry because the Chateau LeBlanc 1968 my school served me was supposed to be slightly chilled, but mine was distinctly room temperature.

What are we? Animals?

That doesn't sound like a real story. This thread is for things in daily life that bother us that we want to vent about. Not sure if you got that message .  :wink:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6914 on: September 29, 2017, 07:28:51 pm »
On minimum wages in Canada:

My socialist cousin (who I love, don't get me wrong, he's a great guy) recently linked to an article on Facebook that stated with minimum wage at $15/h, and the average rent in Toronto is $2000/month, so poverty.

Does one expect to live an AVERAGE life (in Toronto) at MINIMUM wage (for the province)? Should shop owners in Timmins pay thier high school part-time help enough for a flat at Yonge and Bloor?

It is really hard to have a serious discussion when rediculous numbers are presented like this.

I'm curious how minimum wage would be in Timmins if it was adjusted with productivity. Understandably it is more expensive to live at Yonge and Bloor (poor choice), but maybe the minimum in Timmins should be raised from its current provincial level.

Businesses are of course looking to cut costs, but maybe they should be nudged to pay employees more reasonably.

I think I support an age-based minimum wage. The high school student is always cited as why the minimum can't be raised, so cap the high school minimum at 80% the full minimum, or something less than the 18/19+ amount.

I think there are countries that do something like that, but I do not know how effective age-adjusted rates are.
There is an age based minimum wage in Ontario. When I was there 2 years ago, student min wage was about 9$ and minimum was around 12$. Also take into account that food, especially fruits and vegetables in bigger cities is less. If you go up to Haliburton it's like 10$ for a bag of potatoes that would cost 4$ in the GTA. Since Ontario's big they charge out the butt for shipping products outside of Southern Ontario. My family has a cottage up north and it's crazy expensive if you want produce in the middle of nowhere, so that cost of living is higher while housing is cheaper.

I had no idea one was already in existence.

https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act/minimum-wage

Here's the link with an increase kicking in on October 1st of this year.

10.90 for students and 11.60 for general. The previous rates were 20 cents less and were in effect for a year prior. Quite a small amount divides the two. Maybe freeze the student rate for a year or two and increase the general rate. I think a 20 cent increase per year is too little. I think I'd like a 20 cent increase twice a year or a fifty cent increase once a year for at least two years.

I think Toronto is relatively expensive, but if we could avoid a New York or San Francisco situation, that'd be great.

Addition: Yesterday I saw a ten-pound bag of thin-skinned potatoes for $1.40 at Wal-Mart. Speaking to the affordability of staples.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 07:31:51 pm by grey »
Ko fills half his luggage with instant noodles for his international business travels, a lesson he learned after assuming on his first trip that three packages would suffice for six days. “Man, was I wrong. Since then, I always make sure I pack enough.”
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6915 on: September 30, 2017, 02:41:15 pm »
President Donald Trump's new tax plan may result in the richest getting richer and the middle class eventually seeing a slight tax increase, a study released Friday found.

In an initial analysis of the nine-page framework for tax reform, the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution's Tax Policy Center found that Americans among the top 1% of earners would see the bulk of the plan's benefits, while lower- and middle-class Americans — even most upper-class people — would see few benefits.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trumps-tax-plan-just-got-180000645.html

The analysis also estimates the plan would increase the federal deficit by $2.4 trillion in the first decade after its implementation.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6916 on: October 01, 2017, 01:58:57 pm »
Bought a corn dog. They dumped sugar all over it  >:(

Never again.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6917 on: October 03, 2017, 02:38:52 am »
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hello

hope you get disemboweled, dismembered, and beheaded mate.

Anyone else getting this kind of thing? Bro needs to get laid. Poor grammar, too.
Ko fills half his luggage with instant noodles for his international business travels, a lesson he learned after assuming on his first trip that three packages would suffice for six days. “Man, was I wrong. Since then, I always make sure I pack enough.”
-AP


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6918 on: October 03, 2017, 11:37:50 am »
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hello

hope you get disemboweled, dismembered, and beheaded mate.

Anyone else getting this kind of thing? Bro needs to get laid. Poor grammar, too.
Could be IP address fishing.
Would recommend to the rest of y'all to not open any messages from this sender.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #6919 on: October 03, 2017, 12:13:47 pm »
mackens493
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hello

hope you get disemboweled, dismembered, and beheaded mate.

Anyone else getting this kind of thing? Bro needs to get laid. Poor grammar, too.
Could be IP address fishing.
Would recommend to the rest of y'all to not open any messages from this sender.

Tis used to happen on Dave's all the time.  It usually happened after a user made a negative (but usually accurate) comment about Korea.  Most people thought it was a level 5 DeMartino type (Gyopo who has the honour of defending Korea against any slight).  Think of it as a badge of honour!