RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

I can't seem to find a way to post a comment on Waygook from my cell phone. Is it possible? Am i missing something or can it only be done from a computer?

You need to be in a Forum.

The button is just above the list of posts, on the right.


Thank you for that. Actually, i could only see that button after i logged out and back in again. So now i can comment from my phone. Problem fixed. 

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're children. Stop trying to make some kind of statement.

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

YAWN. So preoccupied with pushing an agenda you aren't even trying to make sense.

 This has nothing to do with your SJW obsession. The notions of winning/losing gracefully and not being a sore loser were DRILLED into the heads of most American children. Losing gracefully just does not seem to be a thing here as all of my CTs have allowed students to show out after losing and when I bring up that maybe we should tell them to stop, they look at me like I'm freaking Agetha Trunchbull.

I'm all for not making children feel bad and letting them all get a chance to shine, but they need to learn some damn manners. Begging for stickers/candy is rude and ungrateful.

Yeah, it makes things kind of difficult in the classroom. One tries to make things interesting by playing a game, but it often ends up in tears. It's lose-lose. I could say they are coddled from birth which might explain their brattish behaviour, but that would just end up in yet another argument with the regulars.

I was forced to teach at two elementary schools this year even though my main school is a high school. The high school kids don't seem that different to the elem kids apart from the crying

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

YAWN. So preoccupied with pushing an agenda you aren't even trying to make sense.

 This has nothing to do with your SJW obsession. The notions of winning/losing gracefully and not being a sore loser were DRILLED into the heads of most American children. Losing gracefully just does not seem to be a thing here as all of my CTs have allowed students to show out after losing and when I bring up that maybe we should tell them to stop, they look at me like I'm freaking Agetha Trunchbull.

I'm all for not making children feel bad and letting them all get a chance to shine, but they need to learn some damn manners. Begging for stickers/candy is rude and ungrateful.

Yeah, it makes things kind of difficult in the classroom. One tries to make things interesting by playing a game, but it often ends up in tears. It's lose-lose. I could say they are coddled from birth which might explain their brattish behaviour, but that would just end up in yet another argument with the regulars.

I was forced to teach at two elementary schools this year even though my main school is a high school. The high school kids don't seem that different to the elem kids apart from the crying

I think this comes down to the school environment. I don't have any of these issues when I play game. The winner gets candy, the losers don't get anything. The end. If they say "teacher, again!" I say no and we move on.

Maybe the kids have come to always expect a prize? At my schools, I give candy infrequently, so sometimes when they play a game, they get candy and sometimes they don't. They've come to accept that they may not receive a prize, so winning a game doesn't get so life or death.

I guess I'm just speaking in particular for my students but it's not even the crying that gets me.

My students rarely cry, but when they do, I understand. A lot of the time they cry because they feel embarrassed or because they let their team down. A lot of kids also say mean shit during games and make others feel bad for screwing up. I can also tell they don't want to cry. Sometimes they do it quietly so no one notices. It can be annoying but I don't think that it's from poor parenting (for my students at least)

However my students get ANGRY when they don't win. They push their desks, yell, and slam their books. They show out and try to get attention. They whine and groan and honestly sound like they're in pain. It's ridiculous... and once a few students do it, it catches on and half the class is acting like the world is ending because they didn't win this round of BINGO. There aren't any tears, but they just do it because THEY WANT STICKERS AND THEY WANT THEM NOW.

 If it were up to me, I'd cancel the game until they learned how to play with some manners. But, the K-teachers have different priorities I guess.

Seems the Korean teachers haven't instilled good manners in them. Hopefully, they'll go to a middle school where this attitude is discouraged.

I guess I'm just speaking in particular for my students but it's not even the crying that gets me.

My students rarely cry, but when they do, I understand. A lot of the time they cry because they feel embarrassed or because they let their team down. A lot of kids also say mean shit during games and make others feel bad for screwing up. I can also tell they don't want to cry. Sometimes they do it quietly so no one notices. It can be annoying but I don't think that it's from poor parenting (for my students at least)

However my students get ANGRY when they don't win. They push their desks, yell, and slam their books. They show out and try to get attention. They whine and groan and honestly sound like they're in pain. It's ridiculous... and once a few students do it, it catches on and half the class is acting like the world is ending because they didn't win this round of BINGO. There aren't any tears, but they just do it because THEY WANT STICKERS AND THEY WANT THEM NOW.

 If it were up to me, I'd cancel the game until they learned how to play with some manners. But, the K-teachers have different priorities I guess.

Seems the Korean teachers haven't instilled good manners in them. Hopefully, they'll go to a middle school where this attitude is discouraged.

Should manners come from home or teachers?

I see shocking manners all of the time with my high school students. Not all of them, though.

It's interesting when you hear about some of the lives of one's students. Dad ran away so mum works as a norebang assistant, student X has to study very hard to support mum as she has no money has no money due to dad running off etc. When you hear some of these stories, it can make one a little more open minded when dealing with bad behaviour.

At least at high school, many teachers don't know how to discipline the students any more now that they can't hit them. The result is they are more and more like Western kids.

Bring back the STICK!!!

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're children. Stop trying to make some kind of statement.

I'm not blaming the poor innocent children. I'm blaming the adults who are teaching them weak values. Sevenpm talked about how entitled her students are, which reminded me of America's SJWs. They have similar attitudes and I'm worried that Korean kids will turn out that way too.

wasn't informed that lunch was an hour early today. I walked into the lunchroom and everything had been cleared up? Nice.

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're children. Stop trying to make some kind of statement.

I'm not blaming the poor innocent children. I'm blaming the adults who are teaching them weak values. Sevenpm talked about how entitled her students are, which reminded me of America's SJWs. They have similar attitudes and I'm worried that Korean kids will turn out that way too.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. You are not worried about the kids at all. You are just trying to push your anti-SJW agenda. Grow up.

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're children. Stop trying to make some kind of statement.

I'm not blaming the poor innocent children. I'm blaming the adults who are teaching them weak values. Sevenpm talked about how entitled her students are, which reminded me of America's SJWs. They have similar attitudes and I'm worried that Korean kids will turn out that way too.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. You are not worried about the kids at all. You are just trying to push your anti-SJW agenda. Grow up.

I'm worried for everyone.

Should manners come from home or teachers?

I see shocking manners all of the time with my high school students. Not all of them, though.

It's interesting when you hear about some of the lives of one's students. Dad ran away so mum works as a norebang assistant, student X has to study very hard to support mum as she has no money has no money due to dad running off etc. When you hear some of these stories, it can make one a little more open minded when dealing with bad behaviour.

At least at high school, many teachers don't know how to discipline the students any more now that they can't hit them. The result is they are more and more like Western kids.

Bring back the STICK!!!

It begins at home, but it's reinforced and practiced outside the home, which comes from societal expectations. Schools must create and enforce rules and guidelines for the purpose of management, and the safety and well-being of other students, but most if not all of these rules are only mirroring generally accepted guidelines for appropriate behavior anyway.

Raising kids is the parents' responsibility, but, when living together in a society, it's also a community effort. It's part of establishing and reinforcing universal etiquette, because kids are still kids and will always try to test boundaries, even when being raised well. That's part of the raising/growing up process, and that's also why disciplinary actions and methods that reinforce accepted behavior and discourage inappropriate behavior are absolutely necessary where kids are involved, regardless of what parents are and aren't doing. It just promotes a better learning environment for both students and teachers, while a failure to establish and enforce boundaries can and does lead to major class management and personality development issues, both of which make everything harder for everyone -- just especially for teachers.

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're children. Stop trying to make some kind of statement.

I'm not blaming the poor innocent children. I'm blaming the adults who are teaching them weak values. Sevenpm talked about how entitled her students are, which reminded me of America's SJWs. They have similar attitudes and I'm worried that Korean kids will turn out that way too.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. You are not worried about the kids at all. You are just trying to push your anti-SJW agenda. Grow up.

I'm worried for everyone.

You worried that everyone won't believe exactly what you believe and make life comfortable for you. Get over yourself. Stop asking like you're the only voice of logic or reason.

wasn't informed that lunch was an hour early today. I walked into the lunchroom and everything had been cleared up? Nice.

Hey, you got out of eating Korean food. Buy a lotto ticket.

I only eat school lunch at my country school, where the 30 minute drive precludes going home for lunch. The new VP asked me if I liked bibimbap, which was our lunchtime 'treat', and seemed surprised when I unenthusiastically said "It's OK". I imagine she was expecting a wide-eyed "It's delicious!", but I've been here too long to pretend to be excited about a plate of rice and vegetables with one kind of sauce.

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're children. Stop trying to make some kind of statement.

I'm not blaming the poor innocent children. I'm blaming the adults who are teaching them weak values. Sevenpm talked about how entitled her students are, which reminded me of America's SJWs. They have similar attitudes and I'm worried that Korean kids will turn out that way too.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. You are not worried about the kids at all. You are just trying to push your anti-SJW agenda. Grow up.

I'm worried for everyone.

You worried that everyone won't believe exactly what you believe and make life comfortable for you. Get over yourself. Stop asking like you're the only voice of logic or reason.

Eh, my life is comfortable enough if I stay away from young western people. I have a nice apartment, nice car, easy job. It could be worse.

I used to like playing games with my students because it took up so much time, but these kids are such sore losers I don't enjoy it anymore.

If they lose, they become so demanding like it's their right to win. They scream for another round or to get a prize anyway. They whine like they're dying. My CT is nice enough to usually award the top 5 spots in a game, staggering the prizes (1st place gets 3 stickers - 5th place gets 1 sticker) and they still have the nerve to complain and demand more stickers.

I know they are just kids, but I hate to watch them getting away with this behavior. There will be another game next class and another after that. This is the only time in life they will ever be awarded for 5th place, but they are so ungrateful. They need to be taught to say thank you and try again next time. Again, I know they are children but I just don't like seeing this behavior unchecked. It's so entitled.

They're training to become Korea's SJW generation.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're freakin' children.

Children being taught the same negative behaviours that led to America's 20-somethings becoming the disaster they are.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. They're children. Stop trying to make some kind of statement.

I'm not blaming the poor innocent children. I'm blaming the adults who are teaching them weak values. Sevenpm talked about how entitled her students are, which reminded me of America's SJWs. They have similar attitudes and I'm worried that Korean kids will turn out that way too.

Pls take your agenda elsewhere. You are not worried about the kids at all. You are just trying to push your anti-SJW agenda. Grow up.

I'm worried for everyone.

You worried that everyone won't believe exactly what you believe and make life comfortable for you. Get over yourself. Stop asking like you're the only voice of logic or reason.

Eh, my life is comfortable enough if I stay away from young western people. I have a nice apartment, nice car, easy job. It could be worse.

I think they're life is better if they're away from you, too. Good job containing your toxic ways. 


Rant: As I grow close to the end of my time here, I have found that I have lost my ability to put up with stupidity. The older I get, they more I realize that a lot of dumb people have somehow coasted through life to positions of power.

I feel like a politics joke could be inserted here.

wasn't informed that lunch was an hour early today. I walked into the lunchroom and everything had been cleared up? Nice.

Hey, you got out of eating Korean food. Buy a lotto ticket.

I only eat school lunch at my country school, where the 30 minute drive precludes going home for lunch. The new VP asked me if I liked bibimbap, which was our lunchtime 'treat', and seemed surprised when I unenthusiastically said "It's OK". I imagine she was expecting a wide-eyed "It's delicious!", but I've been here too long to pretend to be excited about a plate of rice and vegetables with one kind of sauce.

Lol how many sauces do you want on one food? Do you need some ranch and ketchup?

No, I'm not looking for tacky American 'cooking'.

Take a European pasta dish. You can expect stock, tomato paste, olive oil, various herbs, an acid such as lemon or balsamic, garlic and even a bit of butter. Bibimbap has gochujang. It's passable, but not anything to write a book about.

Our office smells like chicken.



Oh wait... this is the ranting thread 

wasn't informed that lunch was an hour early today. I walked into the lunchroom and everything had been cleared up? Nice.

Hey, you got out of eating Korean food. Buy a lotto ticket.

I only eat school lunch at my country school, where the 30 minute drive precludes going home for lunch. The new VP asked me if I liked bibimbap, which was our lunchtime 'treat', and seemed surprised when I unenthusiastically said "It's OK". I imagine she was expecting a wide-eyed "It's delicious!", but I've been here too long to pretend to be excited about a plate of rice and vegetables with one kind of sauce.

Lol how many sauces do you want on one food? Do you need some ranch and ketchup?

No, I'm not looking for tacky American 'cooking'.

Take a European pasta dish. You can expect stock, tomato paste, olive oil, various herbs, an acid such as lemon or balsamic, garlic and even a bit of butter. Bibimbap has gochujang. It's passable, but not anything to write a book about.

Ew. Putting more than one type of sauce on a pasta dish would be a terrible idea.

Also yeah, bibimbap is a food that literally originated as a way for people to clear out their leftovers. Like, it's not supposed to be thought of as some haute cuisine. The people that promote it as such are trying a little too hard.

I think you missed my point about properly made pasta. You don't traditionally buy a pre-made sauce from the supermarket. You make a sauce using lots of different seasonings. Bibimbap's flavour is basically just fermented chilli. It's boring.

I should have been more specific by saying 'seasoning' instead of 'sauce'.

Was late to my 5th period class because nobody told me that the 1st years still had class. That makes zero sense to me. Let the 1st years have a break, too.

StillInKorea is on here harping on about Millennials. Many millennials have come to Korea and have stayed a number of years due to poor opportunities after the financial crisis. StillInKorea is ostensibly, not a millennial but an older individual who probably came here many years ago. If that is correct, he came from an era where opportunities in the west were plentiful compared to what they are now.

I think a couple of things can be deduced from this:

. He left the western world back when it was much easier to find a well paying career and has stayed in Korea. There could be many reasons for this in his defence. Who are we to judge? But someone could hold the view that he was a sad, miserable and unpleasant person back in the West.

. The fact he is apparently older and has come onto this thread to start throwing around his SJW "promotion" nonsense to younger people seemingly proves this.

What Korea does to the burnouts..