RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

Do I need to make a reading comprehension remark? 

Perhaps, but it looks more like you got your sock handles mixed up, as I was responding to What?What?'s

I live in a town with a home plus. A very tiny home plus, pretty much the same size as a normal towns GS25.

..not Maxi

I got the Lotte and Homeplus crossed, while you got your user accounts twisted...

We could just call it even ;)

  Where are the grade 5s going today? 

  We don't have grade 5 class today.

  No, I mean they have a field trip. Do you know where they're going? 

  That is not our concern. It's not our responsibility. 

  *Holy Christ, just making some small talk* 

CJ: I find Japanese easier to pronounce than Korean.

KT: That’s because Korean is a scientific language.

Note to self: Just don’t engage with your co-workers at all; just don’t.

OMG, I have had conversations like this soooo many times.

Additionally, on a much sadder, angrier note...I find out a student commits suicide in my school (by now I have taught all them, I love them and they all matter to me a great deal), Me: I whisper, who was it?
teacher: Why?
me:  Because I care. I taught them. I'd like to mourn them.
Teacher: You don't need to know.

This has happened 4 times in 3 years. Aside from the fact suicide shouldn't even be happening or so frequently, why can't I know???

Where are the grade 5s going today? 

  We don't have grade 5 class today.

  No, I mean they have a field trip. Do you know where they're going? 

  That is not our concern. It's not our responsibility. 

  *Holy Christ, just making some small talk* 

OMG, I have had conversations like this soooo many times.

Additionally, on a much sadder, angrier note...I find out a student commits suicide in my school (by now I have taught all them, I love them and they all matter to me a great deal), Me: I whisper, who was it?
teacher: Why?
me:  Because I care. I taught them. I'd like to mourn them.
Teacher: You don't need to know.

This has happened 4 times in 3 years. Aside from the fact suicide shouldn't even be happening or so frequently, why can't I know???

Do they think it would bring shame to the kid/family?    Otherwise seems like bollocks to me. 

I honestly have no idea. If it's that, they why do so many people know but not me.

Me: but you told ____(other foreign teacher)...?
Teacher: She's in his class this semester.
Me: that means she was in my class last semester...? So I still can't know.
Teacher: you won't know her anyway and we don't talk about things like this.
Me:  90% of the school knows. The kids are undergoing grief counseling, grade by grade.
Teacher: let it go, okay? You don't need to know.
Me: 

OMG, I have had conversations like this soooo many times.

Additionally, on a much sadder, angrier note...I find out a student commits suicide in my school (by now I have taught all them, I love them and they all matter to me a great deal), Me: I whisper, who was it?
teacher: Why?
me:  Because I care. I taught them. I'd like to mourn them.
Teacher: You don't need to know.

This has happened 4 times in 3 years. Aside from the fact suicide shouldn't even be happening or so frequently, why can't I know???

Do they think it would bring shame to the kid/family?    Otherwise seems like bollocks to me.

Holy shittttttt, that would probably make me blow a gauge.

The f is their problem?

"Someone you know died, but I can't tell you who it is."

It's like the worst game of keepaway ever.

Seriously, and it's been mostly girls sadly and I am real close to my girls, so I had to mourn without knowing. I think the biggest problem is because Korean English teachers do not actually teach IN ENGLISH and they just talk AT the students they literally have no idea how high level these kids are. They assume I have no relationship with them, that I don't know them, so it shouldn't matter. But it's bullshit because I know my students. They are high school, they are almost adults, and they talk to me about everything, they come to my class on breaks to chit chat. So every time it has happened I have felt heartbroken and devalued. I really try not to take the attitude personally, but damn it burns.

Holy shittttttt, that would probably make me blow a gauge.

The f is their problem?

"Someone you know died, but I can't tell you who it is."

It's like the worst game of keepaway ever.

Why is a random teacher telling me that I have to go and stay in the staff room every afternoon? What's wrong with staying in the English classroom? She then proceeded to berate me to arrange the desks and keep the place clean. I use this classroom one day a week! The desks are in a different arrangement every week not once perpetrated by myself. There's a bunch of fourth graders who are supposed to clean it during lunch! Pass the buck!! Argh!

I had a similar frustrating situation.  At one of my travel schools, I went to just once a week, I used to have the most amazing English room to teach in.  Clean and stocked with all the supplies I needed.  The school at that time only had 5 students total, and it was in the process of closing down.  Classrooms upstairs were emptied and closed off.  One day, I go to work, greet everyone in the teachers' lounge, and go to the English classroom, except, there is an elderly teacher sitting there and reading.  I'm confused, and the very little Korean I know just makes this ajusshi stare blankly at me.  Go back to find my co-teacher (who didn't bother to even teach with me), who says that now the English room is this other teacher's classroom.  I'm annoyed, but I understand, I just there fleetingly during the week.  But what boiled my blood was I was not allowed to take any of the supplies to the next class over for my students, which was an old out of use Science classroom, with a whole bunch of old science equipment, not suitable for elementary students to be around.  For the rest of my teaching time there, I taught five classes, once a week, in this horrible classroom, that was never cleaned, and constantly ransacked by the students when I wasn't there (and I was reprimanded for not cleaning it).  To top things off, this other teacher used to just sleep or read in his classroom the whole day I taught there.  That space was completely wasted, but I couldn't use it because it was "his" classroom.  I wasn't even sure what he taught there.  It was such a frustrating and stupid situation!  Sorry for the long rant, it really bugged me at that time!

There's a policy at my school where they're not supposed to talk about students' private lives or situations outside of anyone who isn't somehow involved with or directly affected by them. So, technically, only that student's teachers, the head teacher, the VP and the P are supposed to know the exact details. As far as I know, this is fairly standard at most schools, but how strictly it's practiced can vary.

If those outside of that circle know more than the basics (in this case being that someone committed suicide), it's either because they put 2 and 2 together based on things they know about here and there, or because of gossip, which many KTs are not comfortable sharing outside of trusted circles because, if it comes back to them, they could get into legit trouble over it.

Students know about it, of course, through friends and classmates.

I don't personally like how they go about dealing with this sort of thing here, it's not healthy, and I'm sorry that you keep finding yourself caught up in it, travelinpantsgirl.

 
Thanks.

There's a policy at my school where they're not supposed to talk about students' private lives or situations outside of anyone who isn't somehow involved with or directly affected by them. So, technically, only that student's teachers, the head teacher, the VP and the P are supposed to know the exact details. As far as I know, this is fairly standard at most schools, but how strictly it's practiced can vary.

If those outside of that circle know more than the basics (in this case being that someone committed suicide), it's either because they put 2 and 2 together based on things they know about here and there, or because of gossip, which many KTs are not comfortable sharing outside of trusted circles because, if it comes back to them, they could get into legit trouble over it.

Students know about it, of course, through friends and classmates.

I don't personally like how they go about dealing with this sort of thing here, it's not healthy, and I'm sorry that you keep finding yourself caught up in it, travelinpantsgirl.

One of the teachers' cars got smashed/shoved.  Since nearly everyone was away on a field trip when this happened, it had to have been one of the vehicles used for the current construction project.  The worker who mans that vehicle is claiming no fault. 

The teacher is pretty peeved, understandably so, and has since called the police about it. 

From what another teacher relayed to me, the accused are claiming that nobody was in the vehicle and that it rolled into the teacher's car of its own accord when the emergency brake failed.   

Wait...let me guess...next the accused is going to blame the teacher because...wait for it...it was parked there...
And then he'll countersue for emotional damages and win...

One of the teachers' cars got smashed/shoved.  Since nearly everyone was away on a field trip when this happened, it had to have been one of the vehicles used for the current construction project.  The worker who mans that vehicle is claiming no fault. 

The teacher is pretty peeved, understandably so, and has since called the police about it. 

From what another teacher relayed to me, the accused are claiming that nobody was in the vehicle and that it rolled into the teacher's car of its own accord when the emergency brake failed.   

Wait...let me guess...next the accused is going to blame the teacher because...wait for it...it was parked there...
And then he'll countersue for emotional damages and win...

One of the teachers' cars got smashed/shoved.  Since nearly everyone was away on a field trip when this happened, it had to have been one of the vehicles used for the current construction project.  The worker who mans that vehicle is claiming no fault. 

The teacher is pretty peeved, understandably so, and has since called the police about it. 

From what another teacher relayed to me, the accused are claiming that nobody was in the vehicle and that it rolled into the teacher's car of its own accord when the emergency brake failed.   

The corner of the cafeteria is also smashed, a window is broken and everything.  The gas tanks were apparently damaged as well but one of the teachers made a point to assure me that there was "no explosion."  Hah. 

Because you couldn't work that out for yourself...? lol
 

Wait...let me guess...next the accused is going to blame the teacher because...wait for it...it was parked there...
And then he'll countersue for emotional damages and win...

One of the teachers' cars got smashed/shoved.  Since nearly everyone was away on a field trip when this happened, it had to have been one of the vehicles used for the current construction project.  The worker who mans that vehicle is claiming no fault. 

The teacher is pretty peeved, understandably so, and has since called the police about it. 

From what another teacher relayed to me, the accused are claiming that nobody was in the vehicle and that it rolled into the teacher's car of its own accord when the emergency brake failed.   

The corner of the cafeteria is also smashed, a window is broken and everything.  The gas tanks were apparently damaged as well but one of the teachers made a point to assure me that there was "no explosion."  Hah.

A lot of my middle school classes are canceled due to tests or miscellaneous school events.  I'll only get to see my travel school two more times before I finish my contract.   

Somehow my elementary schools rarely cancel.  And when they do have a special event they like to make me make up the classes by doubling up on classes on other days (it never exceeds the maximum so I can't complain).  I'd rather double up on my middle school classes. 

ooohhh so she texted that to you?

A lot of my middle school classes are canceled due to tests or miscellaneous school events.  I'll only get to see my travel school two more times before I finish my contract.   

Somehow my elementary schools rarely cancel.  And when they do have a special event they like to make me make up the classes by doubling up on classes on other days (it never exceeds the maximum so I can't complain).  I'd rather double up on my middle school classes.

ooohhh so she texted that to you?

A lot of my middle school classes are canceled due to tests or miscellaneous school events.  I'll only get to see my travel school two more times before I finish my contract.   

Somehow my elementary schools rarely cancel.  And when they do have a special event they like to make me make up the classes by doubling up on classes on other days (it never exceeds the maximum so I can't complain).  I'd rather double up on my middle school classes.

Sometimes he texts, if there's a last minute change and he didn't get a chance to tell me in person.  This information was told in person but I was just remembering as I'm prepping for my elementary classes next week and I have extra.  Blarrghrabble

People that post on the local facebook page about their problems, get answers then post it on here the same or next day annoy me to no end.

People who call you a troll because you have a different opinion to them also annoy me.