RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

For some reason this annoyed me:  someone posted on FB asking how to use NEIS and the first (and only comment because for some reason the OP disabled comments after that point) response went in the direction of "It's not your job, it's your handler's job, if you mess up then it's your responsibility, all the terms are really technical, etc."

...I feel like NEIS isn't that hard to use, even if you're just memorizing the steps.  I have a cheat sheet that I keep updated every time I have to request something new.  And I'd much rather be able to personally keep track of how all my requests (business trips, vacation, etc.) are logged.  Also, the translations of each step seem accurate enough and always matched up with what my coT said so I don't feel like that's a big issue either. 

I dunno man.  Maybe I'm annoyed that the OP was being discouraged from taking responsibility.

I read that exact comment / thread on FB ;P
My co-teachers made me a cheatsheet on how to log my regular travel school visits, and it's not hard, but I still have no idea about vacation or sick days. I guess we'll cross that bridge when it comes.

I have basic proficiency in NEIS and yes it isn't very hard to use.

begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.

I think they're also supposed to run any time off request by a NET through the P or VP. The liaison teacher's level of annoyance at your request may depend on how pleasant the people in these positions are to converse with.  At the very least, it requires them to get out of their chair and walk down and up at least one flight of stairs. Plus, if they didn't let you know that it was a huge inconvenience, you would have no idea how hard they work.

any request for time off by anyone period needs to be approved by the P and/or VP. but that approval is done via the NEIS system. you have to enter the authorization chain on NEIS. there's no need to leave your seat at all.

Well....my second point still stands.

I read that exact comment / thread on FB ;P
My co-teachers made me a cheatsheet on how to log my regular travel school visits, and it's not hard, but I still have no idea about vacation or sick days. I guess we'll cross that bridge when it comes.

I was vaguely worried that the person who commented on that post would see me on here whinging about it 

Requesting vacation time is easy, don't sweat it (at least in NEIS, depends on your VP or P as well I suppose  )!  I haven't used a sick day yet but I imagine it wouldn't be much different in terms of difficulty/ease. 

I read that exact comment / thread on FB ;P
My co-teachers made me a cheatsheet on how to log my regular travel school visits, and it's not hard, but I still have no idea about vacation or sick days. I guess we'll cross that bridge when it comes.

I was vaguely worried that the person who commented on that post would see me on here whinging about it 

Requesting vacation time is easy, don't sweat it (at least in NEIS, depends on your VP or P as well I suppose  )!  I haven't used a sick day yet but I imagine it wouldn't be much different in terms of difficulty/ease.

Well, it wasn't me who posted it, and I can't be bothered posting on it haha.
Though, this is my 2nd year in Korea, and the first time I've had to use NEIS, it doesn't seem so hard though (maybe cause my co-teachers walked me through it and made me a pretty good cheatsheet).
Last year, I just texted my co-teacher if I was sick, or talked to him about vacation, and everything was always okay. This whole NEIS system is new to me. :p

...begs the question as to why the korean teachers who are responsible for our NEIS stuff treat it as if it's some huge inconvenience in their lives. less than 5 minutes to put in a business trip or something.

I think they're also supposed to run any time off request by a NET through the P or VP. The liaison teacher's level of annoyance at your request may depend on how pleasant the people in these positions are to converse with.  At the very least, it requires them to get out of their chair and walk down and up at least one flight of stairs. Plus, if they didn't let you know that it was a huge inconvenience, you would have no idea how hard they work.

any request for time off by anyone period needs to be approved by the P and/or VP. but that approval is done via the NEIS system. you have to enter the authorization chain on NEIS. there's no need to leave your seat at all.

Mine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it.

Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.

While I'm on this board - the Lesson Plan Download thread was locked before I could ask my question: before asking everyone to pay why not set a monthly download limit like a 100mb. Anything above that has to be paid.

Also, surely one can see the users who download the most from forum reports? Can't those users be blocked?

Mine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it.

Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.

THIS!!!

It is seems so defeatist to have this online system when so many can't let go of the old way of doing things.

Anyone know of any other reason for it to be done in that way (seeking prior approval, before submitting)?

I was told paperwork.

Some warning about the pay system would be nice.

Just Paypal? I don't have paypal. Ugh.

A little while back, some inconsiderate meathead stole my nice umbrella from the gym. It wasn't a 5000원 POS from the local super either.

Now, I've got a nice, new umbrella that I'm afraid to take anywhere.

School is cancelled due to dangerous weather for students only.. because who cares about the safety of the teachers am I right?


But also what the F*CK at the parents who still sent their kids walking to school today. Are they insane? The roads are flooded up to my shins, traffic lights are out, cars are stalled in the middle of the road, and there are children walking alone to a nearly empty school. Insane.

At least your school cancelled classes =| Mine is still running.

School is cancelled due to dangerous weather for students only.. because who cares about the safety of the teachers am I right?


But also what the F*CK at the parents who still sent their kids walking to school today. Are they insane? The roads are flooded up to my shins, traffic lights are out, cars are stalled in the middle of the road, and there are children walking alone to a nearly empty school. Insane.

At least your school cancelled classes =| Mine is still running.

Same here :\

Some warning about the pay system would be nice.

Just Paypal? I don't have paypal. Ugh.

+1

Dangerous weather?

Dangerous weather?

It's raining today.

Dangerous weather?

Not sure, but I, and everyone else in the office, got the emergency message this morning about something. It's all in Korean, so I can't read it, and my co-workers wouldn't tell me.

Dangerous weather?

Not sure, but I, and everyone else in the office, got the emergency message this morning about something. It's all in Korean, so I can't read it, and my co-workers wouldn't tell me.

Both of them were warning of the rain that causes flooding. Im in Dongnae and it tends to flood pretty badly here (in Korean standards at least). Was up to my shins

Mine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it.

Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.

THIS!!!

It is seems so defeatist to have this online system when so many can't let go of the old way of doing things.

Anyone know of any other reason for it to be done in that way (seeking prior approval, before submitting)?

I assume it's just the cultural hierarchy thing.  My coT and I would go together to ask the principal permission for special things like my vacation dates.  He was super chill though; my coT said she was sure everything was fine but that it was just the polite thing to do. 

But for basic requests like just going to a travel school? I just have to request approval from the head teacher via NEIS.  We don't bother the principal over something so minor as that.  (If we did, we'd be bothering him thrice a week)

I found out today that some students at my middle school have complained about teachers cutting in the lunch line and eating first. Today, the vice principal was in the cafeteria talking to students as we teachers cut in line.  There is also a sign that reminds students that teachers eat first.

SMH 

I'm so done with work and Korea in general, I want to just sleep until my contract is up.

Same. Seven more weeks.