Quote from: chupacaubrey on July 28, 2017, 03:05:02 pmIt was soap, you guys. Not soup. Thanks for being there during this trying time.i think I just saved your relationship~
It was soap, you guys. Not soup. Thanks for being there during this trying time.
Quote from: Chinguetti on July 28, 2017, 01:46:29 pmI also knew a person who liked to put ketchup on his twinkies.I hope you called the police.
I also knew a person who liked to put ketchup on his twinkies.
When I was a kid, I met a girl who didn't like chocolate. To each their own, but... Flummoxed, I tell you.
got served a brocolli, tomato, orange, banana, chicken and green leaf salad, with a sesame dressing at a restaurant yesterday
Quote from: yirj17 on July 28, 2017, 01:17:05 pmWhen I was a kid, I met a girl who didn't like chocolate. To each their own, but... Flummoxed, I tell you. Yeah, I've known a few people who don't like chocolate (I actually dislike white chocolate, personally -- but milk chocolate and dark chocolate are great). I've also known someone who didn't like ice cream (she said she didn't like the taste and that it made her sick if she ate it), and another person who didn't like sugar/sweet foods. I've also known someone who didn't like almost every food there is. Oh, and I've also known a few Koreans who don't like kimchi, haha.
Couple of things to rant about.1. Why am I here? Like seriously why? Why does the government pay all this money to bring me here and spend all this money on english learning, when no-one takes it seriously enough to make these kids learn? Like these kids have been taking English lessons since the third grade at least 3 times a week, PLUS imerison classes at least once a week. In addition, many of them go to hagwons for hours on end to learn but yet they CANNOT form a sentence to save their damn lives! Like a fully formed senence is beneath them. By the sixth grade level I expect that you should be able to express your self in at least 2 coherent sentences by now. I dont understand. It is so frustrating. I wish my home country started us on a second language that early, that many times a week. So many of us wouod be flunt or ar least be able to hold a decent conversation in that language by the time we are 12. I dont understand this place.2. For the love of God, Why do kids who hvae next to no interest in English sign up for English camp?? Like why are you here? You're making my job harder because you refuse to do or say shit. Stay home or go to another camp. I wish my school actually vetted the kids who sign up to make sure they actually want to learn so they can get the full benefits of attending. Sigh, this place.
*napping* "Eh, whatever. None of my business. -------------------------------------------------------- *napping* "What are you doing??"
"I want go home with me?" okay have fun going home with yourself.
Quote from: wynislyfe22 on July 31, 2017, 10:33:44 amCouple of things to rant about.1. Why am I here? Like seriously why? Why does the government pay all this money to bring me here and spend all this money on english learning, when no-one takes it seriously enough to make these kids learn? Like these kids have been taking English lessons since the third grade at least 3 times a week, PLUS imerison classes at least once a week. In addition, many of them go to hagwons for hours on end to learn but yet they CANNOT form a sentence to save their damn lives! Like a fully formed senence is beneath them. By the sixth grade level I expect that you should be able to express your self in at least 2 coherent sentences by now. I dont understand. It is so frustrating. I wish my home country started us on a second language that early, that many times a week. So many of us wouod be flunt or ar least be able to hold a decent conversation in that language by the time we are 12. I dont understand this place.2. For the love of God, Why do kids who hvae next to no interest in English sign up for English camp?? Like why are you here? You're making my job harder because you refuse to do or say shit. Stay home or go to another camp. I wish my school actually vetted the kids who sign up to make sure they actually want to learn so they can get the full benefits of attending. Sigh, this place.I feel you on the first one. And it's not just because they are kids either. I've had way too many university age guys try to hit on me unable to form a sentence and who didn't know that you should not call me "sister" in English. I even went off on one before, because I was so annoyed. I asked him didn't he study English at school? And he said "yes but everyone hates English class" (filling in the blanks here, cos it was more like "yes....all student... english hate" and I said so what? I hated math but I still had to study it or else I didn't get a good grade. University students who don't know the difference between "you" and "I" and here I spent probably half the time & money studying a second language and I still know the basics. Doctors who don't know the days of the week or how to ask "what time?" Who here doesn't know how to ask "what time?" in whatever language they studied in grade school??? I'm SO happy to hop in this ranting train, because I've been meaning to call out the 20 somethings who don't know that saying "I like my sister" to a foreign girl you're trying to pick up at a club is wrong. Maybe they didn't pay attention, or maybe they really were never taught that Korean honorific rules don't apply to English. And by the way, I never ask that people speak English to me unless they advertise English services. I either get help or come prepared with Korean translations of what I need. But when people do try and speak English to me I see how much of a failure English education here really is. Sure there are a lot of people who took it upon themselves to learn English to communicate if their lifestyle calls for it... but with all the time money and effort this country puts into English it's pretty sad how many people go through the system and come out knowing absolutely nothing. "I want go home with me?" okay have fun going home with yourself.
In all fairness, many of us have taken various lessons throughout our lives and many of us are at less than stellar levels of competence. I took piano all through elementary school and into middle school because...I just did...its what kids do. I think I can play the Star Wars theme with one hand and many mistakes. If you think we'd all be fluent in a second language, you're mistaken. And at least our language is similar to the German/French/Spanish we'd be taking.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on July 31, 2017, 02:53:58 pmIn all fairness, many of us have taken various lessons throughout our lives and many of us are at less than stellar levels of competence. I took piano all through elementary school and into middle school because...I just did...its what kids do. I think I can play the Star Wars theme with one hand and many mistakes. If you think we'd all be fluent in a second language, you're mistaken. And at least our language is similar to the German/French/Spanish we'd be taking.You make a point, I think the difference is that you wouldn't try to pull a girl by playing her that. hahahahahaha
It's raining sideways... I really hope the weather is decent tomorrow (aka no ferry cancellations) because after camp my vacation starts and I was gonna head to the mainland...
In all fairness, many of us have taken various lessons throughout our lives and many of us are at less than stellar levels of competence. ... If you think we'd all be fluent in a second language, you're mistaken. And at least our language is similar to the German/French/Spanish we'd be taking.My Spanish? Occasionally its 'stereotypical American bad' other times its worst.
Becoming absolutely livid with the aversion to speaking English here.My Korean is pretty elementary and while I don't expect a Korean person to speak English to me, I do expect it when I pay them to. I'm recovering from an annoying injury and chose to see a specialist, in Seoul, for treatment and rehab. The ads for the specialist brag about English speaking staff. I gave them a call and stressed the point that the doctor and therapist needed to have excellent English skills as I'm the type of person who asks many detailed questions and expects detailed answers... I don't joke around with my health.I get there and the doctor speaks passable English with bad pronunciation. Furthermore, he and the therapist (same place) contradict one another and when I enquire, I get ambiguous and vague answers. The therapist's English was much worse and while I might've been able to excuse that, she let her English skills and shyness get in the way of doing her job. She tells me to 'Youtube' how to do the specific exercises and stretches I had to do instead of even making an attempt to explain them. She giggles when trying to speak English and opts to avoid conversation as much as possible, no questions to me, no suggestions, nothing.At 100k a session, I can't believe people can be so damn childish and unprofessional.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on July 31, 2017, 02:53:58 pmIn all fairness, many of us have taken various lessons throughout our lives and many of us are at less than stellar levels of competence. ... If you think we'd all be fluent in a second language, you're mistaken. And at least our language is similar to the German/French/Spanish we'd be taking.My Spanish? Occasionally its 'stereotypical American bad' other times its worst. It didn't really seem to me like she was expecting fluency or stellar levels of competency from the Koreans she meets. She just thinks their level should be higher than it is. Obviously people forget things when they're out of practice, but there's a limit to that. There's a difference between not remembering the quadratic equation and not remembering basic pronouns in a language you studied for ten years. Your Spanish may well be terrible, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you wouldn't mix up the words for "I" and "you." I certainly wouldn't make that kind of mistake in German, and I only took two years of high school German and haven't been in a German classroom since 1999.And for what it's worth, I also wouldn't make those mistakes in Arabic, which is as different from English as Korean is, and I haven't been in an Arabic classroom since 2003 or had to use the language since separating from the military in 2006.As I said in that other thread recently, it's absolutely understandable that many Koreans aren't fluent in English despite studying it for so long. They don't need to use it in their lives, and the system doesn't really set them up to retain anything once they're tested on it. I get that. The issue being discussed here isn't that they aren't fluent, it's how horrendously bad many of them have turned out to be. There's a whooooooole lot of ground between "fluency" and "completely incompetent."