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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5940 on: July 11, 2017, 10:04:40 am »

That sounds so awkward.

I had a CT who refused to take off her 5 inch platform slippers to measure her height against the students whom she was clearly shorter than. She looked at me with pleading eyes to not make her do it, so I said okay, I'll do it alone.

She was fine with them calling her fat and ugly, but when it comes to height it was a big problem. I thought this was something only guys obsessed over here so I really didn't get it. Everyone could see that some 6th graders were really tall, and that she wore platforms to school every day, but she really thought she needed to keep them on to play the game  ;D

This sheds new light on why I'm asked every personal question under the sun but when asked about my height (I am tall so it comes up fairly often), it's prefaced with "I don't want to be impolite but..."


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5941 on: July 11, 2017, 01:26:16 pm »

My weekend was completely uneventful, and for the first time in my life I'm having complete writer's block on making camp materials. This has never happened to me before, and it's frustrating.

I don't have writer's block because I stole all my material from someone, I just need to change it a little, but I just cannot get my arse into gear to prep anything. Not even the lesson plans. Although this seems to have happened when I found out I have to have 3 camps and everyone wants a different "theme" or "focus", and all I want is a damn vacation!!!!!!!! Other than that I am pretty good though.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5942 on: July 11, 2017, 01:29:19 pm »
I hate you Hangul Word Processor. Why would you split a word down the middle at the end of a line?

Nobody wri
tes like thi
s!!

Why?!? I'd be hard pressed to find another text input field with the same flaw. Hell, this frickin minimal Quick Reply field on this half-ass coded website does it properly. Why can't you!?!??!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5943 on: July 11, 2017, 02:32:46 pm »
I hate you Hangul Word Processor. Why would you split a word down the middle at the end of a line?

Nobody wri
tes like thi
s!!

Why?!? I'd be hard pressed to find another text input field with the same flaw. Hell, this frickin minimal Quick Reply field on this half-ass coded website does it properly. Why can't you!?!??!


My stude
nts do th
is and its
so annoy
ing
.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5944 on: July 11, 2017, 03:17:05 pm »
I hate you Hangul Word Processor. Why would you split a word down the middle at the end of a line?

Nobody wri
tes like thi
s!!

Why?!? I'd be hard pressed to find another text input field with the same flaw. Hell, this frickin minimal Quick Reply field on this half-ass coded website does it properly. Why can't you!?!??!

I ha
te this to
o but is it bec
ause Hangul auto
matically groups its
elf? I have no id
ea


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5945 on: July 11, 2017, 04:07:57 pm »
I hate you Hangul Word Processor. Why would you split a word down the middle at the end of a line?
Nobody wri
tes like thi
s!!
Why?!? I'd be hard pressed to find another text input field with the same flaw. Hell, this frickin minimal Quick Reply field on this half-ass coded website does it properly. Why can't you!?!??!
My stude
nts do th
is and its
so annoy
ing
.

Korean writing doesn't have any real line-break conventions, especially not when it comes to breaking a line in the middle of a word. The way Hangul is written, and line break naturally happens at the end of a syllable. Because of this, students have no reason to think that there are actual rules dictating how lines words should be partitioned when using the Roman Alphabet. There are a few fun lesson plans on Waygook that involve syllables and hyphenation.

I suspect the same reason is true why the programme-that-shall-not-be-named does't have scripting for breaking up words -- nobody ever bothered to put them in, and when somebody finally brought it up, the coding was already fossilized and it was just too much effort to add it in.
   I mean, who else but Koreans ever use it, and how many of those Koreans care or even know about English word-splitting conventions?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5946 on: July 11, 2017, 04:25:29 pm »
I hate you Hangul Word Processor. Why would you split a word down the middle at the end of a line?

Nobody wri
tes like thi
s!!

Why?!? I'd be hard pressed to find another text input field with the same flaw. Hell, this frickin minimal Quick Reply field on this half-ass coded website does it properly. Why can't you!?!??!

I think it's because in Korean texts, it's considered acceptable and not odd to do that (i.e. split a word down the middle at the end of a line).

For example:
안녕하
세요.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2017, 08:16:20 am by Mezoti97 »


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5947 on: July 11, 2017, 09:09:47 pm »
We've been doing Jeonse in our current place for 3 years now (contract ending next March) and heard today that the Landlady who bought it 1 year ago wants to sell up.

We moved in paying 240 million. The Landlady after we were there for 2 years sold it on and we stayed on as tenants to the new Landlady but our Jeonse increased to 290 million. Now, she wants to sell it for 330 million. Absolutely maddening prices!

Totally gutted that we didn't buy the place rather than taking out Jeonse as 240 million seems like a steal now. Would have made almost 100 million profit.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5948 on: July 11, 2017, 09:24:50 pm »
We've been doing Jeonse in our current place for 3 years now (contract ending next March) and heard today that the Landlady who bought it 1 year ago wants to sell up.

We moved in paying 240 million. The Landlady after we were there for 2 years sold it on and we stayed on as tenants to the new Landlady but our Jeonse increased to 290 million. Now, she wants to sell it for 330 million. Absolutely maddening prices!

Totally gutted that we didn't buy the place rather than taking out Jeonse as 240 million seems like a steal now. Would have made almost 100 million profit.
Don't beat yourself up over it.
If you make money on your home (on paper), you can only turn that into cash if you move somewhere cheaper.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5949 on: July 11, 2017, 10:20:58 pm »
We've been doing Jeonse in our current place for 3 years now (contract ending next March) and heard today that the Landlady who bought it 1 year ago wants to sell up.

We moved in paying 240 million. The Landlady after we were there for 2 years sold it on and we stayed on as tenants to the new Landlady but our Jeonse increased to 290 million. Now, she wants to sell it for 330 million. Absolutely maddening prices!

Totally gutted that we didn't buy the place rather than taking out Jeonse as 240 million seems like a steal now. Would have made almost 100 million profit.

You paid 240 million for jeonse but you had the option to buy for the same amount. I don't quite understand, but that is an insane amount. Curious if this is in Seoul, some other metropolis, or a smaller area?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5950 on: July 11, 2017, 10:40:28 pm »
With 240,000,000 KRW, with that kind of capital you would be able to easily buy a 500,000,000+ home, so I don't follow why you would simply park that money.

What was the upside/downside?

If you wanted to remain in your current place, why not take out a 90,000,000 note, which would only be 37% of value.

Surely, you could easily find a bank that would do that, no?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5951 on: July 11, 2017, 10:57:51 pm »
We've been doing Jeonse in our current place for 3 years now (contract ending next March) and heard today that the Landlady who bought it 1 year ago wants to sell up.

We moved in paying 240 million. The Landlady after we were there for 2 years sold it on and we stayed on as tenants to the new Landlady but our Jeonse increased to 290 million. Now, she wants to sell it for 330 million. Absolutely maddening prices!

Totally gutted that we didn't buy the place rather than taking out Jeonse as 240 million seems like a steal now. Would have made almost 100 million profit.

You paid 240 million for jeonse but you had the option to buy for the same amount. I don't quite understand, but that is an insane amount. Curious if this is in Seoul, some other metropolis, or a smaller area?

I think the actual cost to buy was 250 million (yeah, Jeonse was almost the same) but we were not looking to buy at that time. Since then lots of new developments have popped up in our area and more are being built, which I guess are driving up prices.

Edit: Not Seoul but Anyang area of Gyeonggi.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5952 on: July 11, 2017, 11:02:14 pm »
With 240,000,000 KRW, with that kind of capital you would be able to easily buy a 500,000,000+ home, so I don't follow why you would simply park that money.

What was the upside/downside?

If you wanted to remain in your current place, why not take out a 90,000,000 note, which would only be 37% of value.

Surely, you could easily find a bank that would do that, no?

We are not that rich and most of our Jeonse is through bank loans. It's a gamble to park your money in an area that you hope will rise in value. Our apartment is at least 20 years old but prices seem to keep rising.

Yeah, it would be "easy" to increase the loan from the bank but we could move into an area 15 minutes away for the same 평 size and far less price than the 330 million our apartment is going for now.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5953 on: July 12, 2017, 08:09:42 am »
Day 3 of my strict diet.

I'm hangry and hate everyone and everything.  :cry: :cry: :cry:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5954 on: July 12, 2017, 08:20:48 am »
We've been doing Jeonse in our current place for 3 years now (contract ending next March) and heard today that the Landlady who bought it 1 year ago wants to sell up.

We moved in paying 240 million. The Landlady after we were there for 2 years sold it on and we stayed on as tenants to the new Landlady but our Jeonse increased to 290 million. Now, she wants to sell it for 330 million. Absolutely maddening prices!

Totally gutted that we didn't buy the place rather than taking out Jeonse as 240 million seems like a steal now. Would have made almost 100 million profit.

You paid 240 million for jeonse but you had the option to buy for the same amount. I don't quite understand, but that is an insane amount. Curious if this is in Seoul, some other metropolis, or a smaller area?

my god .... you paid 240 mil for jeonse?

putting that money in index funds - which usually average 7-8% per year - would have netted you a return on investment of around 17 to 19 million Won. per year.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5955 on: July 12, 2017, 08:33:08 am »
You gotta live somewhere, Kobayashi. Plus, the money's on loan for a specific purpose. That probably would have violated the terms of the loan to invest the money.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5956 on: July 12, 2017, 08:41:36 am »
yeah i know. of course you can't take out 240 mil in loans from the bank and just invest it.

i was using it more as an illustration of how much the jeonse system can be a rip-off.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5957 on: July 12, 2017, 08:48:22 am »
We've been doing Jeonse in our current place for 3 years now (contract ending next March) and heard today that the Landlady who bought it 1 year ago wants to sell up.

We moved in paying 240 million. The Landlady after we were there for 2 years sold it on and we stayed on as tenants to the new Landlady but our Jeonse increased to 290 million. Now, she wants to sell it for 330 million. Absolutely maddening prices!

Totally gutted that we didn't buy the place rather than taking out Jeonse as 240 million seems like a steal now. Would have made almost 100 million profit.

You paid 240 million for jeonse but you had the option to buy for the same amount. I don't quite understand, but that is an insane amount. Curious if this is in Seoul, some other metropolis, or a smaller area?

my god .... you paid 240 mil for jeonse?

putting that money in index funds - which usually average 7-8% per year - would have netted you a return on investment of around 17 to 19 million Won. per year.

Am I wrong in thinking that jeonse is usually paid using a bank loan? Me and my husband have a jeonse apartment for 190 million in Busan. We paid a 40 mill deposit and the rest is a loan that we pay interest on (a few hundred k per month). We will repay the loan when we leave the apartment and get the jeonse back. In my experience it's an awesome win-win way for everyone - I get a sweet apartment for 350k "rent" every month, the landlord invests the jeonse to get interest, and the bank gets to reap interest on a relatively low-risk loan. Wish they had this system back in the states.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5958 on: July 12, 2017, 08:50:19 am »
Do you mind posting some pictures of what 330,000,0000 gets you in the outskirts of Seoul.  I've been to Anyang, some parts are nice, but other are shitholes and filthy.  Just wondering if 330,000,000 gets you into the nicer areas.  Cheers.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5959 on: July 12, 2017, 09:11:51 am »
We've been doing Jeonse in our current place for 3 years now (contract ending next March) and heard today that the Landlady who bought it 1 year ago wants to sell up.

We moved in paying 240 million. The Landlady after we were there for 2 years sold it on and we stayed on as tenants to the new Landlady but our Jeonse increased to 290 million. Now, she wants to sell it for 330 million. Absolutely maddening prices!

Totally gutted that we didn't buy the place rather than taking out Jeonse as 240 million seems like a steal now. Would have made almost 100 million profit.

You paid 240 million for jeonse but you had the option to buy for the same amount. I don't quite understand, but that is an insane amount. Curious if this is in Seoul, some other metropolis, or a smaller area?

my god .... you paid 240 mil for jeonse?

putting that money in index funds - which usually average 7-8% per year - would have netted you a return on investment of around 17 to 19 million Won. per year.

Am I wrong in thinking that jeonse is usually paid using a bank loan? Me and my husband have a jeonse apartment for 190 million in Busan. We paid a 40 mill deposit and the rest is a loan that we pay interest on (a few hundred k per month). We will repay the loan when we leave the apartment and get the jeonse back. In my experience it's an awesome win-win way for everyone - I get a sweet apartment for 350k "rent" every month, the landlord invests the jeonse to get interest, and the bank gets to reap interest on a relatively low-risk loan. Wish they had this system back in the states.

Similar to us. 50 million was our own money. 190 million on loans. We pay 500k in monthly interest back to the bank. It is a nice system but also one that could come down like a house of cards.