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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5640 on: June 22, 2017, 12:32:52 pm »

I'm getting tired of Korean food again. And I'm tired of Koreans being like "you can find everything you eat in America in Korea easily right?" and they get shocked when I tell them no, we eat more than pizza and hamburgers. No, I can't easily (or affordably) continue my same diet from home here. I'll deal, but I don't know why so many people here are like "we have all the same food as America right?!" I mean, I wouldn't assume that my home has the same food available as any other country so why the hell would Korea be the exception? Another annoying thing is when I actually have to tell an adult human that no, Korea isn't the only country that eats rice.


Omg this though. I am starting to run out of ideas of what food to eat here. I'm also a vegetarian which makes it even more difficult. I miss home cooked food soooo much but all the ingredients here are so darn expensive. Same with the fruit. At home I'm used to having fresh fruit all the time. Here though they either don't have the fruit or it's way too expensive. When I do actually find western food around here it's not purely western but instead it's the Korean's take on it. Which is totally ok. This is their country, they can do what they want. I'm just frustated with going out for burgers or pizza and having allergic reactions because they cook their food differently. On this note, does anyone know if Korea cooks their western food in peanut oil? Like Pizza Hut and Loving Hut? I am mildly allergic to peanuts but I seem to be reacting to some other strange ingredient here.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5641 on: June 22, 2017, 12:43:59 pm »
Ahh What?What? I see you are very good with chopsticks, but we must show you proper way to hold them.

Ahh no thanks I'm good, I can get the food in my mouth quite well thank you. (I mean I really can).

But What?What? is ignored and has hands grab hands and chopsticks, interrupting her meal, and completely destroying any will she has left of ever eat school lunch again.

Seriously folks, should I stop you from eating your soup and show you the correct ****** way to hold a spoon. No. Why? Well it's not the way I would hold a spoon, but that doesn't seem to impede your ability to get the soup in your mouth so I leave that shit alone goddamnit.... and I have had countless of you show me the "correct" way to hold chopsticks and you do not all hold chopsticks the same way...



AND I want the damn AC on AND also I am so tired of this waygook.org temporarily unavailable bullshit


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5642 on: June 22, 2017, 02:00:52 pm »
My CT runs to turn off all the fans. I tell her that it's going to get really hot and that she can just tilt the fans to face upwards, thus maintaining circulation without blowing the cards off the student's desks.

She doesn't understand and I go to show her how to tilt the fan... She panics and runs up to me saying "No! No! I'll do it."
Offended and not in the best of moods, I tell her that I'm a 30yr old man, who has graduated from University, with an honours degree. I know how to operate a simple fan without breaking it.


Ugggggggghhhhhhhhhh, I've said it before and I'll say it again, the infantilisation of the foreign teacher amazes me.

"Wow, you took the subway to Yeoju? Isn't that difficult?" NO

"Wow, you went to Noraebang? How?" IT'S EASY.

"Wow, insert X here." YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE OVER 4 YEARS.

Imagine a Korean was in Toronto for 4 years?

"Oh, wow! You made it down to Niagara Falls all by yourself? How on Earth did you manage that? You know how to do that?"

People would call me the most condescending prick in the world.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5643 on: June 22, 2017, 02:11:01 pm »
Did you ever notice that the media in Korea can report opinions or numbers but never the two together?

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170622000709

This is a story about income in Korea.

It notes that men out earn women 1.7:1, but doesn't discuss why.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5644 on: June 22, 2017, 02:34:07 pm »
My CT runs to turn off all the fans. I tell her that it's going to get really hot and that she can just tilt the fans to face upwards, thus maintaining circulation without blowing the cards off the student's desks.

She doesn't understand and I go to show her how to tilt the fan... She panics and runs up to me saying "No! No! I'll do it."
Offended and not in the best of moods, I tell her that I'm a 30yr old man, who has graduated from University, with an honours degree. I know how to operate a simple fan without breaking it.



Ugggggggghhhhhhhhhh, I've said it before and I'll say it again, the infantilisation of the foreign teacher amazes me.

"Wow, you took the subway to Yeoju? Isn't that difficult?" NO

"Wow, you went to Noraebang? How?" IT'S EASY.

"Wow, insert X here." YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE OVER 4 YEARS.

Imagine a Korean was in Toronto for 4 years?

"Oh, wow! You made it down to Niagara Falls all by yourself? How on Earth did you manage that? You know how to do that?"

People would call me the most condescending prick in the world.

I honestly cannot take it anymore. I was asking myself today what it is that puts me in these foul moods so suddenly, and it is this ridiculous condescension. I am not an imbecile. I think coming from a background where I was considered an expert in my field to being treated like I have a severe intellectual disability has now just gotten old and annoying. It was quite nice at first,  not having to think for 20 other people, but I just can't anymore.  I thought I was really cool for escaping the rat race, now I just want it back because at least I was treated like I had a brain cell or two. Also I am now in my forties so I think I am just taking it really hard. Yeah. cause a 40 year old clearly cannot figure out how a printer works or how to feed herself or catch a new bus.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5645 on: June 22, 2017, 02:44:14 pm »
My annoying coT keeps asking me to speak Korean to the students because they supposedly "think it's funny." I shoot her down every time now. I get a feeling she wants to feel superior about her pronunciation of her native tongue.  :undecided:  :rolleyes:

One time she insisted I repeat some Korean sounds after her (like ㅆ and ㄸ) and the students just gave me looks like they didn't get the point of the demonstration and/or thought her crazy. She was trying to show that my pronunciation was off but I like to think I'm passable.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5646 on: June 22, 2017, 03:33:27 pm »
My annoying coT keeps asking me to speak Korean to the students because they supposedly "think it's funny." I shoot her down every time now. I get a feeling she wants to feel superior about her pronunciation of her native tongue.  :undecided:  :rolleyes:

One time she insisted I repeat some Korean sounds after her (like ㅆ and ㄸ) and the students just gave me looks like they didn't get the point of the demonstration and/or thought her crazy. She was trying to show that my pronunciation was off but I like to think I'm passable.

Tell her to choose one of each of the following words and if you guess right 100% of the time you'll do it:
right, light
pirate, pilot
fan, pan
lion, ryan
foot, put
tower, towel


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5647 on: June 23, 2017, 11:31:53 am »
No more sugar coating: I hate my Thursday/Friday school. If I had to be at this school more than a day and a half, I would have quit already. My coteacher does NO discipline at all besides the occasional "Be quiet~" and the kids never do what I tell them to do. I'm so done. They have exams next week, which will give me a break, and then I'm showing movies until the end of the semester. Why pretend like they're going to learn anything?

When the new semester starts, I'll do the pages I'm supposed to do (which they totally ignore) then show a video. I'm done putting effort into teaching them. They don't want to learn.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5648 on: June 23, 2017, 05:40:48 pm »
Did you ever notice that the media in Korea can report opinions or numbers but never the two together?

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170622000709

This is a story about income in Korea.

It notes that men out earn women 1.7:1, but doesn't discuss why.

An explanation of why men out earn women, for example, wouldn't be an opinion if backed up by facts and numbers to arrive at a conclusion. That conclusion could be challenged, but the discussion would take place with facts as the basis.

The problem is when actual opinions are entered into the mix to try and shutdown a discussion of facts. For instance, if someone says, "Men are just constantly oppressing women because they're all misogynists" or "Women aren't as capable as men," and this explains the wage difference, then the discussion more often than not becomes whether or not that opinion is true, not why, objectively, there is an actual wage difference. The Western media typically mixes these two together to coverup important issues. The Korean media doesn't necessarily have to go as far because South Koreans are often taught in schools not to question things. If people get upset at the numbers or facts, decades of certain thinking take hold, and then the opinion articles enforcing a concept and that old thinking can be employed.

Yonhap News Agency sort of has that Western style in that they always push a single political line, blurring facts and opinions, which is to be expected as they're state-run.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5649 on: June 23, 2017, 05:57:57 pm »
Did you ever notice that the media in Korea can report opinions or numbers but never the two together?

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170622000709

This is a story about income in Korea.

It notes that men out earn women 1.7:1, but doesn't discuss why.

An explanation of why men out earn women, for example, wouldn't be an opinion if backed up by facts and numbers to arrive at a conclusion. That conclusion could be challenged, but the discussion would take place with facts as the basis.

The problem is when actual opinions are entered into the mix to try and shutdown a discussion of facts. For instance, if someone says, "Men are just constantly oppressing women because they're all misogynists" or "Women aren't as capable as men," and this explains the wage difference, then the discussion more often than not becomes whether or not that opinion is true, not why, objectively, there is an actual wage difference. The Western media typically mixes these two together to coverup important issues. The Korean media doesn't necessarily have to go as far because South Koreans are often taught in schools not to question things. If people get upset at the numbers or facts, decades of certain thinking take hold, and then the opinion articles enforcing a concept and that old thinking can be employed.

Thanks.

I should have said "analysis" instead of opinion.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5650 on: June 23, 2017, 06:13:55 pm »
Did you ever notice that the media in Korea can report opinions or numbers but never the two together?

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170622000709

This is a story about income in Korea.

It notes that men out earn women 1.7:1, but doesn't discuss why.

An explanation of why men out earn women, for example, wouldn't be an opinion if backed up by facts and numbers to arrive at a conclusion. That conclusion could be challenged, but the discussion would take place with facts as the basis.

The problem is when actual opinions are entered into the mix to try and shutdown a discussion of facts. For instance, if someone says, "Men are just constantly oppressing women because they're all misogynists" or "Women aren't as capable as men," and this explains the wage difference, then the discussion more often than not becomes whether or not that opinion is true, not why, objectively, there is an actual wage difference. The Western media typically mixes these two together to coverup important issues. The Korean media doesn't necessarily have to go as far because South Koreans are often taught in schools not to question things. If people get upset at the numbers or facts, decades of certain thinking take hold, and then the opinion articles enforcing a concept and that old thinking can be employed.

Thanks.

I should have said "analysis" instead of opinion.

No, I would say you were correct. One rarely finds an actual analysis in the Western media; just overblown opinions.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5651 on: June 24, 2017, 12:49:20 pm »
Did you ever notice that the media in Korea can report opinions or numbers but never the two together?

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170622000709

This is a story about income in Korea.

It notes that men out earn women 1.7:1, but doesn't discuss why.

An explanation of why men out earn women, for example, wouldn't be an opinion if backed up by facts and numbers to arrive at a conclusion. That conclusion could be challenged, but the discussion would take place with facts as the basis.

The problem is when actual opinions are entered into the mix to try and shutdown a discussion of facts. For instance, if someone says, "Men are just constantly oppressing women because they're all misogynists" or "Women aren't as capable as men," and this explains the wage difference, then the discussion more often than not becomes whether or not that opinion is true, not why, objectively, there is an actual wage difference. The Western media typically mixes these two together to coverup important issues. The Korean media doesn't necessarily have to go as far because South Koreans are often taught in schools not to question things. If people get upset at the numbers or facts, decades of certain thinking take hold, and then the opinion articles enforcing a concept and that old thinking can be employed.

Thanks.

I should have said "analysis" instead of opinion.

No, I would say you were correct. One rarely finds an actual analysis in the Western media; just overblown opinions.

Analysis is really what I want to see, but I do I agree that honest analysis is becoming rarer in the west as well.

We used to see some of it from public broadcasters (CBC, BBC, PBS), but they have taken a swing to the left in recent years.

I used "opinion" in perhaps a more archaic usage - the current use is more aligned with "position".

"I think women are paid less because they often choose lower paying lines of work, and they also often leave the workforce after having children," is an opinion based on some analysis. It is open to new data, and dares you disprove me.

"I think women are paid less because that is their place. I am a [right wing party] supporter, and a member of [conservative religious sect]," is more of a "position" sort of opinion, and not open to new data.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5652 on: June 24, 2017, 03:56:23 pm »
Analysis is really what I want to see, but I do I agree that honest analysis is becoming rarer in the west as well.

We used to see some of it from public broadcasters (CBC, BBC, PBS), but they have taken a swing to the left in recent years.

I used "opinion" in perhaps a more archaic usage - the current use is more aligned with "position".

"I think women are paid less because they often choose lower paying lines of work, and they also often leave the workforce after having children," is an opinion based on some analysis. It is open to new data, and dares you disprove me.

"I think women are paid less because that is their place. I am a [right wing party] supporter, and a member of [conservative religious sect]," is more of a "position" sort of opinion, and not open to new data.

Ultimately, the issue isn't so much opinion vs. analysis, but rather why someone is making a statement. This includes the surface reasons--"A woman's place is in the home because my conservative religious sect says so," for example--and underlying reasons, those not easily seen or quickly realized. Most of the media opinions and analyses present only the surface, which, usually, is not the actual reason why someone in the media would present a concept.

Let's take the conservative religious sect example for a moment. Over the last thousand years, through the contributions to science from men like Johannes Kepler and Charles Darwin to name but a few, the use of religion as an explanation for the physical word began to diminish. Why then, do people still cling to religion, and still further, why do some even cling to extremist religions or cults? This is much harder to answer, but these answers are the underlining reasons for why a conservative religious sect member who hold such a belief regarding women.

I don't necessarily want to go into those underlying reasons because that's not the point here. What I do want to go into is "right-wing" vs. "left-wing" in politics today. First of all, people can call themselves anything they want. Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders can call themselves socialists, leftists, whatever. It doesn't make it true. The Labour Party and Democratic Party are filled with wide ranges of different types of people with different interests. How could a millionaire like Bernie Sanders possibly understand or connect with a common worker in a factory? He can't. Sanders' interests lie in helping his own social clique, that is, other wealthy people (not as wealthy as they would like maybe) and the Democratic Party itself. Look at the past election debacle in the United States where the Democratic Party undemocratically interfered with the primaries to ensure Hillary Clinton won the nomination. Sanders then keels over and hails Clinton and the party platform as the most progressive ever. Were Sanders to have railed against Clinton and the Democrats for their attack on the basic right of people to vote, people likely would have responded and the Democratic Party and perhaps even the two-party system in America would have been threatened.

More to the point, how could Hillary Clinton possible understand the what a common worker is going through today? She can't even fathom it. How does the Democratic Party overcome this? By shouting about feminism and sexism and racism and if you disagree or raise any doubts, you're "literally Hitler." The New York Times carries that sort of "opinion/analysis" today. The liberal media paints its agenda in these identity/phony progressive terms but to elect the worst sort of people; people so bad that the majority of Americans chose abstaining/or a third party candidate over Clinton or Trump. The "swing to the left" of the BBC as you say, is not a swing to the left at all. The BBC, New York Times, etc, as major corporations, all have interests that have nothing to do with common working people. They have to dress up their agendas somehow though, because if they were honest, no-one would follow them or vote for the candidates they endorse. In this way, liberals, SJWs and the like are quite conservative, they just hide behind phony progressivism. They want the same wealth and power as the people who have been in control of governments and companies for years, but to enrich themselves, not help others. A black president or a female prime minister does nothing to address racism or sexism.

The conservatives spout similar nonsense, but they're speaking for the same interests as the liberals; the battle is just over which leading faction will enjoy those interests more. So why does anyone say the things they do? To coverup this basic fact. It may even be rational and make sense--for them. But what works for a wealthy politician or business executive doesn't work for regular people. Right-wingers have for years been suggesting if businesses do well, that'll trickle down to everyone else and the current economic climate around the world shows that's BS. The liberals, in their better days, spoke against this concept and for more rights for everyone, but they have gone so far to the right in the last 20 years or so, that they're becoming indistinguishable from conservatives, except on those identity issues.

Ultimately, people should ask themselves: "Does this political leader actually speak for my interests, my ability to get a job, an education, healthcare, to live in an apartment building that won't go up in flames?" And, if answering in the affirmative, actually find out what that politician has done in the past and who he or she supports. If you have a Sanders who says Wall Street is ruining America, but then backs the Democrats, which is supported by Wall Street no less than the Republicans, you know he's full of shit. It doesn't matter what he says or promises he's going to do, but objectively, if he is working within a certain system, he is supporting it.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5653 on: June 25, 2017, 09:00:15 am »
Every bloody weekend I wake up to my neighbours having a domestic. Which ones? Well usually it's just one, and while I used to call the cops, now I just get my hammer and go out and bang on their door with it, but today they are all going at it. 4 sets of neighbours all yelling, screaming, men punching the women, the women screaming, more yelling, kids crying.

Why the hell do women even bother to get married in this country?

I don't even live in a shit hole, it's not a bad apartment by Korean standards, and most people have new Korean cars, a sprinkling of foreign cars.





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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5654 on: June 25, 2017, 09:41:51 am »
So many of the threads on here are hyperbolic click-bait trash, recently.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5655 on: June 26, 2017, 11:02:02 am »
I had a skype interview today. I was 5 minutes early, signed on, showing as online, ready to go. I send them a message to let them know that, and they say that it shows me as offline. I check, and it still says that I am online. I let them know, but click to go offline then right back on. I ask if that fixed problems, they took 5 minutes to reply, said that yes, it does work and I am online now, but now it's too late and they have to reschedule.

I did full make-up for this today and now for nothing!  :cry: >:(


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5656 on: June 26, 2017, 11:11:18 am »
...

I did full make-up for this today and now for nothing!  :cry: >:(

Take some selfies for your social profiles!

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5657 on: June 26, 2017, 12:06:36 pm »
When you miss the bus to your rural school that costs what feels like a week's wages to get to by taxi, so you take a taxi to a bus stop that is easy to communicate to the driver only to find out that the car is a 20-year-old stick shift that the driver doesn't even come close to knowing how to max out, and you just BARELY beat the bus to the stop when you should have been at least 10 minutes ahead of it.

It was also seriously the jerkiest ride I've experienced in Korea so far. Didn't have my dramamine to deal with it, either, and I'm still fighting off the headache that came with the motion sickness.

Shitty way to start the week off. But at least most of my classes are getting taken over by other teachers so that they can help the students review/cram for their upcoming exams.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5658 on: June 26, 2017, 12:22:50 pm »
...

I did full make-up for this today and now for nothing!  :cry: >:(

Take some selfies for your social profiles!

[Note:  This is not a creepy "send pics" post.]
Haha, note taken. I suppose I could do that indeed. I'm not generally huge selfie taker.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #5659 on: June 26, 2017, 12:47:15 pm »
#based, am I number 3? hahaha