RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

Had to return an Amazon order yesterday, which meant the dreaded trip to the post office. I foresaw difficulty and I was right...

- Once finished, she asked if I could write the address in Korean... Lady, this is an international
  parcel. Most people outside Korea can't read Korean. She then went to her computer, typed out
  'War and Peace' and said English was fine.

This is so absurd. hahaha, This is why everyone should know the Roman alphabet if you work in the public sector. You don't need to know English, but you have to know that Sanbon means 산본.

Jesus Christ, hahahaha

The post office is such a pain in the arse here.

Sometimes doing anything is such a pain in the arse. Being an adult is a pain in the arse....Adult stuff with paperwork is a pain in the arse.

With the post office i do appreciate they are open past 4 though.

http://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/04/international-fans-demand-apology-from-sbs-for-hong-hyun-hees-blackface-comedy-skit

 

Korean "gag people" have international fans?

Why is there an international blackface scandal stemming from Korean entertainers every month these days?

http://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/04/international-fans-demand-apology-from-sbs-for-hong-hyun-hees-blackface-comedy-skit

 

Korean "gag people" have international fans?

Why is there an international blackface scandal stemming from Korean entertainers every month these days?

My guess is international fans living in Korea? Or the koreaboos living abroad?

It seems like they just don't care. I have seen a few things like this out and about in the past.

They had their own brand of umbrella a while ago (green/purple design) and it was branded as the CUmbrella.

Very unfortunate.

Please, please tell me you have pictures of this.

http://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/04/international-fans-demand-apology-from-sbs-for-hong-hyun-hees-blackface-comedy-skit

 

Korean "gag people" have international fans?

Why is there an international blackface scandal stemming from Korean entertainers every month these days?

My guess is international fans living in Korea? Or the koreaboos living abroad?

It seems like they just don't care. I have seen a few things like this out and about in the past.

I saw this happen at a church during a Christmas talent show where one group was singing "I Will Follow Him" with the corresponding scene from the movie Sister Act playing on the screen behind them. The big gag was the conductor turning her face to the crowd, revealing her Whoopi Goldberg blackface. Sure, the average Korean just doesn't know why that might be offensive. But given the several high-profile blackface incidents recently, you'd think entertainers would know better by now. Perhaps the gag woman was as surprised as I was that she had an international following and didn't expect the skit to reach beyond Korean shores.

Sure, the average Korean just doesn't know why that might be offensive.

I always wonder if Koreans would be offended if a foreign celebrity put on tan makeup and squinted their eyes and picked their nose in public and hocked loogies in an attempt to be act like a caricature of Korean stereotypes. Because it feels like they would.

http://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/04/international-fans-demand-apology-from-sbs-for-hong-hyun-hees-blackface-comedy-skit

 

Korean "gag people" have international fans?

Why is there an international blackface scandal stemming from Korean entertainers every month these days?

My guess is international fans living in Korea? Or the koreaboos living abroad?

It seems like they just don't care. I have seen a few things like this out and about in the past.

I saw this happen at a church during a Christmas talent show where one group was singing "I Will Follow Him" with the corresponding scene from the movie Sister Act playing on the screen behind them. The big gag was the conductor turning her face to the crowd, revealing her Whoopi Goldberg blackface. Sure, the average Korean just doesn't know why that might be offensive. But given the several high-profile blackface incidents recently, you'd think entertainers would know better by now. Perhaps the gag woman was as surprised as I was that she had an international following and didn't expect the skit to reach beyond Korean shores.

Given the international appeal of a lot of Korean things, like kpop and kdramas, and the amount of foreigners living here, the entertainment world should at least have an inkling of how this would be perceived. There was that politician last year who made the dark skinned comments about a foreigner and got a ton of backlash. There have been other comedy shows that have done blackface and gotten. The Thai(?) laundry commercial... I feel like the show not expecting anyone outside of Koreans to see it is a bad excuse since everyone can see things like that now.

Sure, the average Korean just doesn't know why that might be offensive.

I always wonder if Koreans would be offended if a foreign celebrity put on tan makeup and squinted their eyes and picked their nose in public and hocked loogies in an attempt to be act like a caricature of Korean stereotypes. Because it feels like they would.

Yeah, that would obviously be offensive. But what if a foreign celebrity dressed up and put on makeup to look like a particular K-pop star and performed the song acting in slightly exaggerated manners of the actual star. That's a straight spoof. That's not obviously offensive, and some people might find it funny. A lot of what makes blackface offensive is not just the content but the history associated with it. A history much of the world will be unaware of. In the talent show that I witnessed, the joke was simply OMG She's black (but she's not really black!). It's not a very funny joke, but at the same time she wasn't up there trying to portray black people as ignorant or buffoonish.

I didn't watch the comedy skit so I don't know if that was nearly so *innocent*. Probably not, since buffoonery seems to be the only joke in town when it comes to gag shows. That on top of the overt prejudice you find here against people with darker skin tones.

http://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/04/international-fans-demand-apology-from-sbs-for-hong-hyun-hees-blackface-comedy-skit

 

Korean "gag people" have international fans?

Why is there an international blackface scandal stemming from Korean entertainers every month these days?

My guess is international fans living in Korea? Or the koreaboos living abroad?

It seems like they just don't care. I have seen a few things like this out and about in the past.

I saw this happen at a church during a Christmas talent show where one group was singing "I Will Follow Him" with the corresponding scene from the movie Sister Act playing on the screen behind them. The big gag was the conductor turning her face to the crowd, revealing her Whoopi Goldberg blackface. Sure, the average Korean just doesn't know why that might be offensive. But given the several high-profile blackface incidents recently, you'd think entertainers would know better by now. Perhaps the gag woman was as surprised as I was that she had an international following and didn't expect the skit to reach beyond Korean shores.

I assure you that any adult Korean with at least 80 points of IQ is aware of what blackface means, and that it is offensive to black people.

What they don't understand, and what is surprising to them, is that anyone cares what black people think. They are particularly perplexed at the fact that a higher race like Koreans shouldn't be allowed to mock an obviously inferior race like Africans. They are also unable to fathom how people can let an inferior race like black people criticize Koreans, and don't at all understand why African people are even permitted to make public criticism, or listened to when they do.

So, yes, they don't really "understand," but not in the way one might think.

They had their own brand of umbrella a while ago (green/purple design) and it was branded as the CUmbrella.

Very unfortunate.

Please, please tell me you have pictures of this.

A guy showed it to me years ago on his phone. I wish.

They had their own brand of umbrella a while ago (green/purple design) and it was branded as the CUmbrella.

Very unfortunate.

Please, please tell me you have pictures of this.

A guy showed it to me years ago on his phone. I wish.

"Don't be surprised by the sensitized rain."

As far as cars turning off, a lot of high-end cars automatically turn off when idling at a stop. Its new tech.

I live in the arse-end of Korea. It's not new tech out here.

That's cool that cars do it automatically now though. At least as long as they manage to start up quickly afterwards. Also, I was always under the impression it took more fuel to start a car than to let it idle for some minutes. I imagine ignition tech has improved since then.

Argh! Now I'm not ranting in the ranting thread. More ranting!

Actually, if your car is going to be idle for more than around 30 seconds, then it is more fuel efficient to turn it off. That would be  inconvenient though, right?  I watched some show where they tested it, but can't remember where I saw/read it. :)

As far as cars turning off, a lot of high-end cars automatically turn off when idling at a stop. Its new tech.

I live in the arse-end of Korea. It's not new tech out here.

That's cool that cars do it automatically now though. At least as long as they manage to start up quickly afterwards. Also, I was always under the impression it took more fuel to start a car than to let it idle for some minutes. I imagine ignition tech has improved since then.

Argh! Now I'm not ranting in the ranting thread. More ranting!

Actually, if your car is going to be idle for more than around 30 seconds, then it is more fuel efficient to turn it off. That would be  inconvenient though, right?  I watched some show where they tested it, but can't remember where I saw/read it. :)

It's more fuel efficient but it's harder on the battery and the starter.

Sure, the average Korean just doesn't know why that might be offensive.

Westerners don't get it.

They got brainwashed with the logic-error that tribalism = racism.

Now they are screwed. Tribalism exists in evolutionary biology, it is real, and can never be removed. Racism is a made up concept. Labeling evolution "evil", and then trying to get rid of it with social conditioning (progressivist "logic"), is 1) stupid, because 2) it will never work, and has never worked.

Koreans are smart because they aren't yet brainwashed. 

Sure, the average Korean just doesn't know why that might be offensive.

Westerners don't get it.

They got brainwashed with the logic-error that tribalism = racism.

Now they are screwed. Tribalism exists in evolutionary biology, it is real, and can never be removed. Racism is a made up concept. Labeling evolution "evil", and then trying to get rid of it with social conditioning (progressivist "logic"), is 1) stupid, because 2) it will never work, and has never worked.

Koreans are smart because they aren't yet brainwashed. 

I agree that tribalism is hardwired into the human psyche.
I disagree that the majority of folk conflate xenophobia with racism.
Generally speaking, those that do are hillbillies who don't particularly see the problem of either.

Also, to clarify, do you consider 'blackface' to be an expression primarily of tribalism?

As far as cars turning off, a lot of high-end cars automatically turn off when idling at a stop. Its new tech.

I live in the arse-end of Korea. It's not new tech out here.

That's cool that cars do it automatically now though. At least as long as they manage to start up quickly afterwards. Also, I was always under the impression it took more fuel to start a car than to let it idle for some minutes. I imagine ignition tech has improved since then.

Argh! Now I'm not ranting in the ranting thread. More ranting!

Actually, if your car is going to be idle for more than around 30 seconds, then it is more fuel efficient to turn it off. That would be  inconvenient though, right?  I watched some show where they tested it, but can't remember where I saw/read it. :)

It's more fuel efficient but it's harder on the battery and the starter.

Right. Batteries here cost an arm and a leg too. I changed my battery and it was around 130,000 won...Fun times

I disagree that the majority of folk conflate xenophobia with racism.

Also, to clarify, do you consider 'blackface' to be an expression primarily of tribalism?

I don't see why we would make any distinction? Tribalism is a natural thing. "Xenophobia" and "racism" are human labels, of that natural thing. Koreans just seem like normal people to me, who never got brainwashed. Making fun that "that other tribe over there" is totally natural behavior. Personally I don't care.

Personally I don't care.

>Bothers to make argument
>Claims not to care

I disagree that the majority of folk conflate xenophobia with racism.
Also, to clarify, do you consider 'blackface' to be an expression primarily of tribalism?

I don't see why we would make any distinction? Tribalism is a natural thing. "Xenophobia" and "racism" are human labels, of that natural thing. Koreans just seem like normal people to me, who never got brainwashed. Making fun that "that other tribe over there" is totally natural behavior. Personally I don't care.

Tribalism is a natural thing, sure. No issues there.
Xenophobia is a wariness/fear/distrust/dislike of something different from you. It doesn't necessarily try to demonize/belittle/mock the other. Racism does.

As for it being natural behaviour... well, yeah, ok. But then, so is cannibalism, indiscriminant sex, violence, fibbing etc. Natural isn't always beneficial (to society).