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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4920 on: April 20, 2017, 07:49:24 am »
I was struggling at gym last night. Figured maybe I just hadn't hydrated enough during the day. Woke up at 2am feeling like I had been hit by a bus. Yes, I have a cold. My head hurts, I can barely breathe, my muscles feel like I was at gym for 4 hours. So today I will not be 100% and Simon says will be a little lackluster.

I wish as per someone else's advice I could just leave my cold at home and come to school 100%. Now I feel I may be having an emotional breakdown because I am not the teacher I should be. I am so immature. But I will persist and try with all my might to be the 100% perfect dancing English puppet, as this is what is expected of me.

In other news, I found Cadbury's chocolate at our little GS last night. It doesn't taste like the one from home. This made me sad.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4921 on: April 20, 2017, 08:01:20 am »
To anyone who thinks there's no sarcasm in Korean, you should come to my middle schools and listen to the way some of the kids do their 인사s in the morning.

It's whiny, nasal, window-shattering faux cutesy-ness and barely concealed disdain at obnoxious volume levels. But yeah, proper honorifics make it polite.  :rolleyes:
If that's not sarcasm I don't know what is.

 ;D :P ;D아ㅏㅏㅏㄴ영ㅇㅇㅇㅇㅇㅇ하ㅏㅏ세ㅔㅔㅔㅔㅔ여ㅕㅕㅕㅕㅇㅇㅇㅇㅇㅇㅇㅇ  ;D  :P ;D

I'm not feeling it today.  :laugh:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4922 on: April 20, 2017, 09:45:08 am »
I got cocky.

I went in before 1st period, needing to print out some stuff double-sided. I did a one-copy test to make sure I had it on the right settings, because I'm a responsible adult and don't like to waste paper.

OR SO I THOUGHT.

Cut to period 3, where I need to print off some more copies for my next class. "I already changed the setting so I'll just hurry up and print out the copies so I can go back to solitude." 10 pages of paper, wasted, because I didn't do my one-copy test to make sure no one changed the settings. I feel like I am single-handedly causing more rainforests to be cut down.

NEVER GET COCKY. NEVERRRRR.

Sidenote: Is this even the right use of "cocky"?

And I know I sound kinda comical and borderline sarcastic, but I really am disappointed in myself. ):
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4923 on: April 20, 2017, 09:57:50 am »

In other news, I found Cadbury's chocolate at our little GS last night. It doesn't taste like the one from home. This made me sad.

I mentioned that on here a few weeks ago. It tastes like plastic mixed in with some oily chemicals. Absolutely rank. Wrapper was in Arabic and Korean I think it said it was made in Dubai.

I bought 9 bars of the stuff cos it was 2+1 and I hadn't seen it here before without the nuts. Ended up giving it to the kids to eat after the 1st bar.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4924 on: April 20, 2017, 10:03:14 am »
I got cocky.

I went in before 1st period, needing to print out some stuff double-sided. I did a one-copy test to make sure I had it on the right settings, because I'm a responsible adult and don't like to waste paper.

OR SO I THOUGHT.

Cut to period 3, where I need to print off some more copies for my next class. "I already changed the setting so I'll just hurry up and print out the copies so I can go back to solitude." 10 pages of paper, wasted, because I didn't do my one-copy test to make sure no one changed the settings. I feel like I am single-handedly causing more rainforests to be cut down.

NEVER GET COCKY. NEVERRRRR.

Sidenote: Is this even the right use of "cocky"?

And I know I sound kinda comical and borderline sarcastic, but I really am disappointed in myself. ):

This is the pettiest rant on this thread. hahaha.

I'm all for saving paper but it's an honest mistake. You release infinitely more CO2 when you go out for BBQ on a Friday night.

Don't beat yourself up.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4925 on: April 20, 2017, 10:20:05 am »
The "source" in question was "Health Expectancy Indicators" from the World Health Organization.  Obviously your 20 years + 1000 hours trumps their paltry experience ...

The "World Health Org" are a bunch of idiots though.

That garbage is way below the level of analyses I perform. Also they are just a bunch of corporate-money corrupted drones. I glanced at that nonsense, and it was just "bla bla life expectancy whatever". Zero depth of analysis. I know what this crap will be before I even click the link, which I why I don't normally click links.

They would do better to look at the 5 metabolic syndrome markers, even something as simple as that is better than their nothing-burger "analysis".


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4926 on: April 20, 2017, 10:36:12 am »
I glanced at that nonsense, and it was just "bla bla life expectancy whatever". Zero depth of analysis. I know what this crap will be before I even click the link, which I why I don't normally click links.

They would do better to look at the 5 metabolic syndrome markers, even something as simple as that is better than their nothing-burger "analysis".
May want to glance again, because the WHO does not include life expectancy in their calculations of 'health'.  :smiley:

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The World Health Organization (WHO) defined health in its broader sense in its 1948 constitution as "a state of complete physical, mental, and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity."


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4927 on: April 20, 2017, 10:37:04 am »
I got cocky.

I went in before 1st period, needing to print out some stuff double-sided. I did a one-copy test to make sure I had it on the right settings, because I'm a responsible adult and don't like to waste paper.

OR SO I THOUGHT.

Cut to period 3, where I need to print off some more copies for my next class. "I already changed the setting so I'll just hurry up and print out the copies so I can go back to solitude." 10 pages of paper, wasted, because I didn't do my one-copy test to make sure no one changed the settings. I feel like I am single-handedly causing more rainforests to be cut down.

NEVER GET COCKY. NEVERRRRR.

Sidenote: Is this even the right use of "cocky"?

And I know I sound kinda comical and borderline sarcastic, but I really am disappointed in myself. ):

my photocopying story:

at my school we have a speed copying machine. it copies super-fast - like 2 or 3 pages per second - but works a little differently to a regular machine.

you have to put what you want copied on the glass, then push a button to make the machine scan the page and keep it in memory. and unless you push the 'clear memory' button, if you push 'copy' it'll just spit out copies of whatever was previously scan.

cue me going to the machine, putting my sheet on the glass, forgetting to press the 'clear memory' and then 'scan' buttons, and just pushing 'copy'.

machine spat out 300 pages of some random document all in korean.

but since i don't like to waste paper i took the pages, turned them upside down and used those to copy my worksheet on.

the kids ended up getting an english worksheet on one side and some school document on the other  :laugh:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4928 on: April 20, 2017, 10:37:09 am »

May want to glance again, because the WHO does not include life expectancy in their calculations of 'health'.  :smiley:

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The World Health Organization (WHO) defined health in its broader sense in its 1948 constitution as "a state of complete physical, mental, and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity."

Keith Moon sure didn't.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4929 on: April 20, 2017, 10:43:27 am »

May want to glance again, because the WHO does not include life expectancy in their calculations of 'health'.  :smiley:

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The World Health Organization (WHO) defined health in its broader sense in its 1948 constitution as "a state of complete physical, mental, and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity."
Keith Moon sure didn't.
Blowing up hotel lavatories and television sets was probably a huge public service. Very unhealthy things, those. And destroying all those drum sets? Pretty intense cardio!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4930 on: April 20, 2017, 10:49:39 am »
I don't know how much longer I can keep doing this, but I don't know what I'd do if I stop doing this.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4931 on: April 20, 2017, 10:52:18 am »
That garbage is way below the level of analyses I perform.

Actual picture of Waygook.org user Ptolemy after typing this



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4932 on: April 20, 2017, 11:03:16 am »
I don't know how much longer I can keep doing this, but I don't know what I'd do if I stop doing this.

+1
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4933 on: April 20, 2017, 11:41:04 am »
Not to take sides here (aside from my own), but it does seem that humans certainly enjoyed much more diverse diets in times past.

http://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2017/04/19/our-food-supply-always-in-season-always-at-risk

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Rob Dunn, author of the new book, “Never Out of Season: How Having the Food We Want When We Want It Threatens Our Food Supply and Our Future."

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Our hungry ancestors [once] would eat hundreds of different kinds of plants and animals in a single week.  Today, with huge scale global agriculture and super-dominant food crops, 80 percent of calories consumed by humans come from just twelve species.

Jared Diamond has some thoughts on this as well...

"The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race"

http://discovermagazine.com/1987/may/02-the-worst-mistake-in-the-history-of-the-human-race
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4934 on: April 20, 2017, 11:45:50 am »
I got a question: What happened to the ranting/venting megathreads 1.0 and 2.0?   :evil:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4935 on: April 20, 2017, 11:49:25 am »
I got a question: What happened to the ranting/venting megathreads 1.0 and 2.0?   :evil:

2.0 was deleted when the OP asked that their account and posts be removed.

1.0 was before my time.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4936 on: April 20, 2017, 12:18:10 pm »
Not to take sides here (aside from my own), but it does seem that humans certainly enjoyed much more diverse diets in times past.
http://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2017/04/19/our-food-supply-always-in-season-always-at-risk
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Rob Dunn, author of the new book, “Never Out of Season: How Having the Food We Want When We Want It Threatens Our Food Supply and Our Future."
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Our hungry ancestors [once] would eat hundreds of different kinds of plants and animals in a single week.  Today, with huge scale global agriculture and super-dominant food crops, 80 percent of calories consumed by humans come from just twelve species.
Jared Diamond has some thoughts on this as well...
"The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race"
http://discovermagazine.com/1987/may/02-the-worst-mistake-in-the-history-of-the-human-race
I have issues. Issues with those articles, I mean.

1. They claim modern foraging tribes spend 14 hours a week finding food. Cool. I spend about 2 hours a week earning the cash I need to buy a week's worth of groceries. In addition to the 12 hours saved, I am providing a highly specialized service that no scavenging society could effectively support.

2. Winter. Even if one believes that our Pleistocene ancestors had abundant variety in their diets (which I doubt: the average primate, while considered a generalist, derives the majority of it's calories from a highly specialized diet), that variety decreased dramatically (sometimes to zero) during winter/dry-season. The extremely high incidence of rickets and other osteopathies in fossil records is a good indicator of nutritional deficiency caused by a narrow diets.

3. While it's true that the majority of modern human's calories come from only a few dozen species, there are literally thousands of back up species to switch to in the case of one crop disappearing. You know how banana-flavoured candies taste kind of not-at-all-like-bananas? It's because the flavour was originally synthesized to mimic the taste of a banana cultivar that was wiped out in the 1950s by the Panama virus (not this Panama virus). It was almost immediately replaced by another cultivar. Same story for grapes etc. Of course, if the current global honeybee crisis isn't rectified, then finding replacement crops for the hundreds that will disappear might be a bit touch and go...

4. Listing specific populations (such as the Irish during the Potato famine (link is a terrible joke. Sorry.:sad: ), or Meso-Americans shortly after the arrival of the Conquistadors) that were nearly wiped out due to an over-reliance on a single crop is a bit of a fallacy: those populations were *forced* to rely on a mono-crop by outside, uh, forces. It's like saying that it was my own fault that I developed scurvy during my uni years due to eating nothing but Mr.Noodles ramen, mayonnaise packets, and pizza crusts scavenged from dorm rubbish bins when really it was the fault of... well... somebody else...  :cry:

5. Go to the supermarket. Boom, hundreds of distinctly different food sources (sometimes in a single product). I mean, most of those food sources are literally poison, but hey, that's a different discussion...

6.Look at the source. Jared. Would you trust that guy? I sure wouldn't!
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4937 on: April 20, 2017, 12:19:28 pm »
This week at my mini school there are 2 new teachers doing stuff on the library computer. Who are you?? Go aaaaaaway~~~


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4938 on: April 20, 2017, 01:55:10 pm »
Not to take sides here (aside from my own), but it does seem that humans certainly enjoyed much more diverse diets in times past.
http://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2017/04/19/our-food-supply-always-in-season-always-at-risk
Quote
Rob Dunn, author of the new book, “Never Out of Season: How Having the Food We Want When We Want It Threatens Our Food Supply and Our Future."
Quote
Our hungry ancestors [once] would eat hundreds of different kinds of plants and animals in a single week.  Today, with huge scale global agriculture and super-dominant food crops, 80 percent of calories consumed by humans come from just twelve species.
Jared Diamond has some thoughts on this as well...
"The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race"
http://discovermagazine.com/1987/may/02-the-worst-mistake-in-the-history-of-the-human-race
I have issues. Issues with those articles, I mean.

1. They claim modern foraging tribes spend 14 hours a week finding food. Cool. I spend about 2 hours a week earning the cash I need to buy a week's worth of groceries. In addition to the 12 hours saved, I am providing a highly specialized service that no scavenging society could effectively support.

2. Winter. Even if one believes that our Pleistocene ancestors had abundant variety in their diets (which I doubt: the average primate, while considered a generalist, derives the majority of it's calories from a highly specialized diet), that variety decreased dramatically (sometimes to zero) during winter/dry-season. The extremely high incidence of rickets and other osteopathies in fossil records is a good indicator of nutritional deficiency caused by a narrow diets.

3. While it's true that the majority of modern human's calories come from only a few dozen species, there are literally thousands of back up species to switch to in the case of one crop disappearing. You know how banana-flavored candies taste kind of not-at-all-like-bananas? It's because the flavor was originally synthesized to mimic the taste of a banana cultivar that was wiped out in the 1950s by the Panama virus (not this Panama virus). It was almost immediately replaced by another cultivar. Same story for grapes etc. Of course, if the current global honeybee crisis isn't rectified, then finding replacement crops for the hundreds that will disappear might be a bit touch and go...

4. Listing specific populations (such as the Irish during the Potato famine (link is a terrible joke. Sorry.:sad: ), or Meso-Americans shortly after the arrival of the Conquistadors) that were nearly wiped out due to an over-reliance on a single crop is a bit of a fallacy: those populations were *forced* to rely on a mono-crop by outside, uh, forces. It's like saying that it was my own fault that I developed scurvy during my uni years due to eating nothing but Mr.Noodles ramen, mayonnaise packets, and pizza crusts scavenged from dorm rubbish bins when really it was the fault of... well... somebody else...  :cry:

5. Go to the supermarket. Boom, hundreds of distinctly different food sources (sometimes in a single product). I mean, most of those food sources are literally poison, but hey, that's a different discussion...

6.Look at the source. Jared. Would you trust that guy? I sure wouldn't!

Sure. If you believe in human progress (or human progress) -- as most of us do, or at least would like to -- and that we are on the brink of the Singularity then you probably wouldn't be satisfied with a foraging lifestyle. And you're right, life would have been much harder for humans residing in winter climes, but foragers also tend to be nomadic.

By bringing up the potato famine (re: your joke) I think the author was just making the point that such a catastrophe of human suffering could never have happened on such a large scale in the pre-agricultural era. He did cite a paleontological study of a hunter-gatherer society and agricultural society whose existences occurred adjacently.

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Another example of paleopathology at work is the study of Indian skeletons from burial mounds in the Illinois and Ohio river valleys. At Dickson Mounds, located near the confluence of the Spoon and Illinois rivers, archaeologists have excavated some 800 skeletons that paint a picture of the health changes that occurred when a hunter-gatherer culture gave way to intensive maize farming around A. D. 1150. Studies by George Armelagos and his colleagues then at the University of Massachusetts show these early farmers paid a price for their new-found livelihood. Compared to the hunter-gatherers who preceded them, the farmers had a nearly 50 per cent increase in enamel defects indicative of malnutrition, a fourfold increase in iron-deficiency anemia (evidenced by a bone condition called porotic hyperostosis), a threefold rise in bone lesions reflecting infectious disease in general, and an increase in degenerative conditions of the spine, probably reflecting a lot of hard physical labor. "Life expectancy at birth in the pre-agricultural community was bout twenty-six years," says Armelagos, "but in the post-agricultural community it was nineteen years. So these episodes of nutritional stress and infectious disease were seriously affecting their ability to survive."

Also,
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I mean, most of those food sources are literally poison, but hey, that's a different discussion...

Wasn't this actually the crux of the disagreement, though? And didn't Pecan just complain that there weren't enough varieties of tomatoes at his local grocery store? And I don't even like banana-flavored candy. But ultimately you're right; you can't trust Jared.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4939 on: April 20, 2017, 02:04:15 pm »
.Why don't you all start a thread instead arguing in here?