Quote from: JNM on April 10, 2017, 09:28:11 amQuote from: Kayos on April 10, 2017, 09:20:12 amQuote from: kyndo on April 10, 2017, 08:50:05 amQuote from: gprinziv on April 10, 2017, 08:40:55 amQuote from: kobayashi on April 07, 2017, 03:02:38 pmat least you get paid an hour of non-teaching overtime every time you are at that school then Whaaaat?How do I go about getting this money? You can't, unfortunately: the school isn't requiring you to stay that extra time. They would argue that you should just get yourself some transportation. Which isn't a bad idea: get yourself a crappy old 50cc scooter for a 3oo,ooo won and save yourself an hour of waiting around time. They're also a heck of a lot of fun, if you dont mind risking life and limb in local traffic. If you don't have a licence / can't drive, then you are required to stay that extra hour. I'd argue for it myself, as I can't drive. No."Required"?Please.The original situation was: rural school, after school class makes them miss the bus, has to wait for an hour after school's finished to wait for the next bus. If you are like me and can't drive, and if one of the Korean teachers won't give you a ride (However, this wasn't mentioned by the OP, I don't think), then you are "required" to stay/wait for another hour to get the next bus. I'd argue that it is required if I were in this situation, I'd fight for over time pay for this, if they wouldn't be willing to let me finish early to catch the bus closest to the finishing time.
Quote from: Kayos on April 10, 2017, 09:20:12 amQuote from: kyndo on April 10, 2017, 08:50:05 amQuote from: gprinziv on April 10, 2017, 08:40:55 amQuote from: kobayashi on April 07, 2017, 03:02:38 pmat least you get paid an hour of non-teaching overtime every time you are at that school then Whaaaat?How do I go about getting this money? You can't, unfortunately: the school isn't requiring you to stay that extra time. They would argue that you should just get yourself some transportation. Which isn't a bad idea: get yourself a crappy old 50cc scooter for a 3oo,ooo won and save yourself an hour of waiting around time. They're also a heck of a lot of fun, if you dont mind risking life and limb in local traffic. If you don't have a licence / can't drive, then you are required to stay that extra hour. I'd argue for it myself, as I can't drive. No."Required"?Please.
Quote from: kyndo on April 10, 2017, 08:50:05 amQuote from: gprinziv on April 10, 2017, 08:40:55 amQuote from: kobayashi on April 07, 2017, 03:02:38 pmat least you get paid an hour of non-teaching overtime every time you are at that school then Whaaaat?How do I go about getting this money? You can't, unfortunately: the school isn't requiring you to stay that extra time. They would argue that you should just get yourself some transportation. Which isn't a bad idea: get yourself a crappy old 50cc scooter for a 3oo,ooo won and save yourself an hour of waiting around time. They're also a heck of a lot of fun, if you dont mind risking life and limb in local traffic. If you don't have a licence / can't drive, then you are required to stay that extra hour. I'd argue for it myself, as I can't drive.
Quote from: gprinziv on April 10, 2017, 08:40:55 amQuote from: kobayashi on April 07, 2017, 03:02:38 pmat least you get paid an hour of non-teaching overtime every time you are at that school then Whaaaat?How do I go about getting this money? You can't, unfortunately: the school isn't requiring you to stay that extra time. They would argue that you should just get yourself some transportation. Which isn't a bad idea: get yourself a crappy old 50cc scooter for a 3oo,ooo won and save yourself an hour of waiting around time. They're also a heck of a lot of fun, if you dont mind risking life and limb in local traffic.
Quote from: kobayashi on April 07, 2017, 03:02:38 pmat least you get paid an hour of non-teaching overtime every time you are at that school then Whaaaat?How do I go about getting this money?
at least you get paid an hour of non-teaching overtime every time you are at that school then
Quote from: Kayos on April 10, 2017, 10:15:09 amQuote from: JNM on April 10, 2017, 09:28:11 amQuote from: Kayos on April 10, 2017, 09:20:12 amQuote from: kyndo on April 10, 2017, 08:50:05 amQuote from: gprinziv on April 10, 2017, 08:40:55 amQuote from: kobayashi on April 07, 2017, 03:02:38 pmat least you get paid an hour of non-teaching overtime every time you are at that school then Whaaaat?How do I go about getting this money? You can't, unfortunately: the school isn't requiring you to stay that extra time. They would argue that you should just get yourself some transportation. Which isn't a bad idea: get yourself a crappy old 50cc scooter for a 3oo,ooo won and save yourself an hour of waiting around time. They're also a heck of a lot of fun, if you dont mind risking life and limb in local traffic. If you don't have a licence / can't drive, then you are required to stay that extra hour. I'd argue for it myself, as I can't drive. No."Required"?Please.The original situation was: rural school, after school class makes them miss the bus, has to wait for an hour after school's finished to wait for the next bus. If you are like me and can't drive, and if one of the Korean teachers won't give you a ride (However, this wasn't mentioned by the OP, I don't think), then you are "required" to stay/wait for another hour to get the next bus. I'd argue that it is required if I were in this situation, I'd fight for over time pay for this, if they wouldn't be willing to let me finish early to catch the bus closest to the finishing time.I'm actually done before lunch at all three of my rural schools, lol. I'm just not allowed to leave until 4:30 (4:40 on Friday) despite that and deskwarm every afternoon. But yeah, Friday the busses run at 4:20 and 5:20, and I get forced to take the 5:20, which suuuuuuuuucks.
Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding, but are these all travel schools that are requiring you to stay after classes? Are you not allowed to return to your main school?
Quote from: What?What? on April 10, 2017, 08:04:34 amThe hallways have gone deathly quiet. I had a class due to start one minute ago... yet again it is clear that the waygookin has been left out of the loop. I want to be thrilled, however I know that this will just mean the first period, and then it will be back to grind, and one of my grade 5 classes will be a lesson ahead of the other. Three years here and still haven't come to terms with Korean surprises.I got tired of stuff like that, too, so I started reading all the messages sent on the school messenger system, and then surprises became much less frequent. Rarely a surprise staff dinner or anything again.
The hallways have gone deathly quiet. I had a class due to start one minute ago... yet again it is clear that the waygookin has been left out of the loop. I want to be thrilled, however I know that this will just mean the first period, and then it will be back to grind, and one of my grade 5 classes will be a lesson ahead of the other. Three years here and still haven't come to terms with Korean surprises.
I hate to see students running around the halls in their socks.
I hate to see students running around the halls in their socks. These schools are completely filthy. Third graders running a broom over the steps for 10 minutes after lunch does nothing and the floors have obviously not been cleaned properly in years. There is dirt, sand from outside, food, wrappers etc covering the stairs and gathering in corners, yet they are running around shoeless between coming in from outside and arriving at their classrooms. It doesn't make any sense. Everyone can see these floors are dirty. Changing into school slippers doesn't save the place from needing a good cleaning, which it never gets... Yet everyone just ignores the fact that kids are running around in their socks on dirty floors because that's just how they've always done it. So tired of rules being applied without any thought to logic or reason. I'm not saying get rid of tradition... Just adjust it so it makes some sense and people aren't running around spreading more filth!
Quote from: sevenpm on April 10, 2017, 11:56:24 amI hate to see students running around the halls in their socks. These schools are completely filthy. Third graders running a broom over the steps for 10 minutes after lunch does nothing and the floors have obviously not been cleaned properly in years. There is dirt, sand from outside, food, wrappers etc covering the stairs and gathering in corners, yet they are running around shoeless between coming in from outside and arriving at their classrooms. It doesn't make any sense. Everyone can see these floors are dirty. Changing into school slippers doesn't save the place from needing a good cleaning, which it never gets... Yet everyone just ignores the fact that kids are running around in their socks on dirty floors because that's just how they've always done it. So tired of rules being applied without any thought to logic or reason. I'm not saying get rid of tradition... Just adjust it so it makes some sense and people aren't running around spreading more filth!Right? At one of my schools, the students and teachers have to walk across an outdoor area that is clearly dirty/sandy/no better than walking on a street sidewalk, but they don't change to their outside shoes. They just stay in the indoor slippers. Which boggles my mind because then it's like... well then what's the point of the slippers??Meanwhile everything would be solved if the janitor just properly mopped every now and then, but y'know.
But I'm wondering if anyone else had to have "indoor shoes" for elementary school in their home country. Growing up my schools always made us change our shoes and have designated "indoor shoes". Did no one else have to deal with that? People always complain about the slippers but I'm kind of used to it because that's almost what we did back home :/
Maybe it's a Southern Ontario thing. Or a 90s thing. We always had to change shoes and if we were a portable class we'd wear our inside shoes from the portable, to the gym in the main school and back. They had to have white bottoms to them too so that when we used them for gym we wouldn't get black scuff marks all over the floor. I just wore black bottomed shows anyways to get out of gym class cuz I was a jerk.
Quote from: kriztee on April 10, 2017, 01:35:07 pmMaybe it's a Southern Ontario thing. Or a 90s thing. We always had to change shoes and if we were a portable class we'd wear our inside shoes from the portable, to the gym in the main school and back. They had to have white bottoms to them too so that when we used them for gym we wouldn't get black scuff marks all over the floor. I just wore black bottomed shows anyways to get out of gym class cuz I was a jerk.I had to have indoor shoes in elementary, but that stopped when we went to junior high/ middle and high school. My middle school here is filthy. Bunch of unsanitary middle school boys that have to "clean" the school for 10 minutes a day. It's only character building if they don't half ass it, guys. Just hire a janitor already. -_-
I should have left when my last contract ended. I made a mistake staying.
It's only character building if they don't half ass it, guys. Just hire a janitor already. -_-
Quote from: keldule on April 10, 2017, 02:41:47 pm It's only character building if they don't half ass it, guys. Just hire a janitor already. -_-Most of my schools have hired janitors to clean the bathrooms, and they generally don't do a much better job of it than the students do with the halls and classes.
Quote from: Chinguetti on April 10, 2017, 03:20:14 pmI've never been in a truly well-kept or clean school. The only thing that really varies is "bad" or "worse". They always use dirty mops to clean the floors, too, so it always smells bad for about an hour right after. Floors are not supposed to be dirtier after you've mopped them. xDThere are a lot of genuinely well-educated and intelligent people (I know those two don't always correlate, so I italicized 'and' so that people don't get it twisted) working in these schools.How does nobody get the fact that those mops aren't lifting the dirt anywhere. They're not being dunked in buckets and having fresh water used to clean the floors. They're literally just pushing the dirt around a little bit. And a vacuum cleaner that has zero suction because it's never been cleaned because nobody knows how to open it where it says to open it and shake the filter out once every month or so doesn't have any utility or function when you're turning it on and just pushing it around on the ground because it isn't sucking up dirt oh my god.AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH WHY!??!?!?
I've never been in a truly well-kept or clean school. The only thing that really varies is "bad" or "worse". They always use dirty mops to clean the floors, too, so it always smells bad for about an hour right after. Floors are not supposed to be dirtier after you've mopped them. xD