Quote from: turningsteel on April 03, 2017, 04:00:25 pmI totally see what you're saying and doing something so overt like this rarely works, but I understand why guys do it and it has more to do with wanting a casual encounter with an attractive member of the opposite sex and less to do with anything scuzzy. For men, our first thought is 'oh she's attractive and I'm not looking for anything serious..' It's as simple as that. Women obviously don't see it that way so taking that approach doesn't bear fruit so to speak, but coming from a guy's perspective, I sympathize with but don't condone the moonshot approach.Am I the only traditional guy around here, who attracts a girl's attention by throwing small rocks to them?
I totally see what you're saying and doing something so overt like this rarely works, but I understand why guys do it and it has more to do with wanting a casual encounter with an attractive member of the opposite sex and less to do with anything scuzzy. For men, our first thought is 'oh she's attractive and I'm not looking for anything serious..' It's as simple as that. Women obviously don't see it that way so taking that approach doesn't bear fruit so to speak, but coming from a guy's perspective, I sympathize with but don't condone the moonshot approach.
Quote from: Dave Stepz on April 04, 2017, 06:57:53 amQuote from: turningsteel on April 03, 2017, 04:00:25 pmI totally see what you're saying and doing something so overt like this rarely works, but I understand why guys do it and it has more to do with wanting a casual encounter with an attractive member of the opposite sex and less to do with anything scuzzy. For men, our first thought is 'oh she's attractive and I'm not looking for anything serious..' It's as simple as that. Women obviously don't see it that way so taking that approach doesn't bear fruit so to speak, but coming from a guy's perspective, I sympathize with but don't condone the moonshot approach.Am I the only traditional guy around here, who attracts a girl's attention by throwing small rocks to them?Try using food.
Quote from: The Arm on April 03, 2017, 07:00:50 pmQuote from: turningsteel on April 03, 2017, 04:00:25 pmQuote from: Chinguetti on April 03, 2017, 01:29:54 pmQuote from: Pecan on April 03, 2017, 01:26:57 pmQuote from: eggieguffer on April 03, 2017, 01:08:28 pmQuoteEspecially if there was no previous suggestions of it AND I had a boyfriend... Yikes!Fair enough about the first part but how much action do you reckon a guy would get if he never hit on a girl who said she had a boyfriend?I know I'm a GEN-X gray hair, but are you guys telling me that as millennials, you would consider/label that sort of message as "hitting on girl"?I can't believe that THAT approach would ever bear fruit.I'm only able to see it as offensive and producing negative results.It translates as "I'm drunk'n horny and want to use you as a semen receptacle."Educate me ;)Pretty much. There are a couple of guys in my area who are like this, and they're pretty notorious among the expats (male and female). It kind of ruins their shot at a lot of girls who might have been interested in them before. Doesn't mean that they don't get lucky from time to time... but they don't get nearly as lucky as they could. Using this kind of tactic just kind of sets you up for failure. It rarely works because it's such a huge turnoff. Makes you look desperate and scuzzy.I totally see what you're saying and doing something so overt like this rarely works, but I understand why guys do it and it has more to do with wanting a casual encounter with an attractive member of the opposite sex and less to do with anything scuzzy. For men, our first thought is 'oh she's attractive and I'm not looking for anything serious..' It's as simple as that. Women obviously don't see it that way so taking that approach doesn't bear fruit so to speak, but coming from a guy's perspective, I sympathize with but don't condone the moonshot approach.Great post by the way turningsteel. Acknowledging the differences between men and women is relevant. Women can't ever fully understand how men think about sex because they can never experience it.Completely agree with you here; I sympathize with but don't condone it.So dumb.Women can be just as into casual sex as men, the difference is men seem to be unable to discern whether or not the girl they are talking to wants it. You can't just go around saying that stuff to someone who is not into you. We don't care how you think about sex, it's nothing special, y'all are just lacking common social skills and don't seem to know how to go after casual sex while still respecting social norms & the person you're talking to.It's not that hard, just don't be an idiot.
Quote from: turningsteel on April 03, 2017, 04:00:25 pmQuote from: Chinguetti on April 03, 2017, 01:29:54 pmQuote from: Pecan on April 03, 2017, 01:26:57 pmQuote from: eggieguffer on April 03, 2017, 01:08:28 pmQuoteEspecially if there was no previous suggestions of it AND I had a boyfriend... Yikes!Fair enough about the first part but how much action do you reckon a guy would get if he never hit on a girl who said she had a boyfriend?I know I'm a GEN-X gray hair, but are you guys telling me that as millennials, you would consider/label that sort of message as "hitting on girl"?I can't believe that THAT approach would ever bear fruit.I'm only able to see it as offensive and producing negative results.It translates as "I'm drunk'n horny and want to use you as a semen receptacle."Educate me ;)Pretty much. There are a couple of guys in my area who are like this, and they're pretty notorious among the expats (male and female). It kind of ruins their shot at a lot of girls who might have been interested in them before. Doesn't mean that they don't get lucky from time to time... but they don't get nearly as lucky as they could. Using this kind of tactic just kind of sets you up for failure. It rarely works because it's such a huge turnoff. Makes you look desperate and scuzzy.I totally see what you're saying and doing something so overt like this rarely works, but I understand why guys do it and it has more to do with wanting a casual encounter with an attractive member of the opposite sex and less to do with anything scuzzy. For men, our first thought is 'oh she's attractive and I'm not looking for anything serious..' It's as simple as that. Women obviously don't see it that way so taking that approach doesn't bear fruit so to speak, but coming from a guy's perspective, I sympathize with but don't condone the moonshot approach.Great post by the way turningsteel. Acknowledging the differences between men and women is relevant. Women can't ever fully understand how men think about sex because they can never experience it.Completely agree with you here; I sympathize with but don't condone it.
Quote from: Chinguetti on April 03, 2017, 01:29:54 pmQuote from: Pecan on April 03, 2017, 01:26:57 pmQuote from: eggieguffer on April 03, 2017, 01:08:28 pmQuoteEspecially if there was no previous suggestions of it AND I had a boyfriend... Yikes!Fair enough about the first part but how much action do you reckon a guy would get if he never hit on a girl who said she had a boyfriend?I know I'm a GEN-X gray hair, but are you guys telling me that as millennials, you would consider/label that sort of message as "hitting on girl"?I can't believe that THAT approach would ever bear fruit.I'm only able to see it as offensive and producing negative results.It translates as "I'm drunk'n horny and want to use you as a semen receptacle."Educate me ;)Pretty much. There are a couple of guys in my area who are like this, and they're pretty notorious among the expats (male and female). It kind of ruins their shot at a lot of girls who might have been interested in them before. Doesn't mean that they don't get lucky from time to time... but they don't get nearly as lucky as they could. Using this kind of tactic just kind of sets you up for failure. It rarely works because it's such a huge turnoff. Makes you look desperate and scuzzy.I totally see what you're saying and doing something so overt like this rarely works, but I understand why guys do it and it has more to do with wanting a casual encounter with an attractive member of the opposite sex and less to do with anything scuzzy. For men, our first thought is 'oh she's attractive and I'm not looking for anything serious..' It's as simple as that. Women obviously don't see it that way so taking that approach doesn't bear fruit so to speak, but coming from a guy's perspective, I sympathize with but don't condone the moonshot approach.
Quote from: Pecan on April 03, 2017, 01:26:57 pmQuote from: eggieguffer on April 03, 2017, 01:08:28 pmQuoteEspecially if there was no previous suggestions of it AND I had a boyfriend... Yikes!Fair enough about the first part but how much action do you reckon a guy would get if he never hit on a girl who said she had a boyfriend?I know I'm a GEN-X gray hair, but are you guys telling me that as millennials, you would consider/label that sort of message as "hitting on girl"?I can't believe that THAT approach would ever bear fruit.I'm only able to see it as offensive and producing negative results.It translates as "I'm drunk'n horny and want to use you as a semen receptacle."Educate me ;)Pretty much. There are a couple of guys in my area who are like this, and they're pretty notorious among the expats (male and female). It kind of ruins their shot at a lot of girls who might have been interested in them before. Doesn't mean that they don't get lucky from time to time... but they don't get nearly as lucky as they could. Using this kind of tactic just kind of sets you up for failure. It rarely works because it's such a huge turnoff. Makes you look desperate and scuzzy.
Quote from: eggieguffer on April 03, 2017, 01:08:28 pmQuoteEspecially if there was no previous suggestions of it AND I had a boyfriend... Yikes!Fair enough about the first part but how much action do you reckon a guy would get if he never hit on a girl who said she had a boyfriend?I know I'm a GEN-X gray hair, but are you guys telling me that as millennials, you would consider/label that sort of message as "hitting on girl"?I can't believe that THAT approach would ever bear fruit.I'm only able to see it as offensive and producing negative results.It translates as "I'm drunk'n horny and want to use you as a semen receptacle."Educate me ;)
QuoteEspecially if there was no previous suggestions of it AND I had a boyfriend... Yikes!Fair enough about the first part but how much action do you reckon a guy would get if he never hit on a girl who said she had a boyfriend?
Especially if there was no previous suggestions of it AND I had a boyfriend... Yikes!
Ok, newsflash. Guys who do this sort of thing tend not to mind their Ps and Qs and keep their elbows off the table do they? Social skills/social norms go out of the window pretty quickly if you're just looking for sex and you're hedging your bets.
Women can be just as into casual sex as men, the difference is men seem to be unable to discern whether or not the girl they are talking to wants it. You can't just go around saying that stuff to someone who is not into you. We don't care how you think about sex, it's nothing special, y'all are just lacking common social skills and don't seem to know how to go after casual sex while still respecting social norms & the person you're talking to
No, at night I just stand around the street corners beating my chest like an ape. You'd be surprised at how successful that can be in Itaewon.
Quote from: The Arm on April 03, 2017, 07:00:50 pmGreat post by the way turningsteel. Acknowledging the differences between men and women is relevant. Women can't ever fully understand how men think about sex because they can never experience it.Completely agree with you here; I sympathize with but don't condone it.So dumb.Women can be just as into casual sex as men, the difference is men seem to be unable to discern whether or not the girl they are talking to wants it. You can't just go around saying that stuff to someone who is not into you. We don't care how you think about sex, it's nothing special, y'all are just lacking common social skills and don't seem to know how to go after casual sex while still respecting social norms & the person you're talking to.It's not that hard, just don't be an idiot.
Great post by the way turningsteel. Acknowledging the differences between men and women is relevant. Women can't ever fully understand how men think about sex because they can never experience it.Completely agree with you here; I sympathize with but don't condone it.
What the hell did I start? hahaha
Just got strong-armed into doing something that I don't want to do.I was able to negotiate a bit and get a little something in return, so it's not a lose-lose situation.Still pisses me off that I can't just simply say "no" without it turning into a big deal here, though.
Quote from: Chinguetti on March 31, 2017, 10:17:34 amJust got strong-armed into doing something that I don't want to do.I was able to negotiate a bit and get a little something in return, so it's not a lose-lose situation.Still pisses me off that I can't just simply say "no" without it turning into a big deal here, though.This happened to me last week too. Co-T: "The kindergarten teacher complained you having been showing up to teach Kindergarten."Me: "Kindergarten isn't a class on my schedule, and you only asked me to introduce myself to that class on my first week."Co-T: "Yeah, but, the old teacher would do it, and we're not allowed to add it to your schedule..."Me: "Why aren't you allowed to add it to my schedule?"Co-T: "Yes. I'll tell the kindergarten teacher that you are going to come every week now. This will be off the records..."Me: "Uhhh.... What???????"I tried to fight it a little more, but he still told the kindergarten teacher I'd be doing a kindergarten class once a week. I heard it's illegal for NETs to teach kindergarten, unless it's in an afterschool class AND they agreed to it. That info could be wrong however, I eventually pointed it out, but even still, I don't understand how he thought I agreed to itthough.
Co-T: "The kindergarten teacher complained you haven't been showing up to teach Kindergarten."Me: "Kindergarten isn't a class on my schedule, and you only asked me to introduce myself to that class on my first week."Co-T: "Yeah, but, the previous NET would do it, and we're not allowed to add it to your schedule..."Me: "Why aren't you allowed to add it to my schedule?"Co-T: "Yes. I'll tell the kindergarten teacher that you are going to come every week now. This will be off the records..."Me: "Uhhh.... What???????"I tried to fight it a little more, but he still told the kindergarten teacher I'd be doing a kindergarten class once a week. I heard it's illegal for NETs to teach kindergarten, unless it's in an afterschool class AND they agreed to it. That info could be wrong however, I eventually pointed it out, but even still, I don't understand how he thought I agreed to itthough.
Quote from: Kayos on April 04, 2017, 10:09:23 amQuote from: Chinguetti on March 31, 2017, 10:17:34 amJust got strong-armed into doing something that I don't want to do.I was able to negotiate a bit and get a little something in return, so it's not a lose-lose situation.Still pisses me off that I can't just simply say "no" without it turning into a big deal here, though.This happened to me last week too. Co-T: "The kindergarten teacher complained you having been showing up to teach Kindergarten."Me: "Kindergarten isn't a class on my schedule, and you only asked me to introduce myself to that class on my first week."Co-T: "Yeah, but, the old teacher would do it, and we're not allowed to add it to your schedule..."Me: "Why aren't you allowed to add it to my schedule?"Co-T: "Yes. I'll tell the kindergarten teacher that you are going to come every week now. This will be off the records..."Me: "Uhhh.... What???????"I tried to fight it a little more, but he still told the kindergarten teacher I'd be doing a kindergarten class once a week. I heard it's illegal for NETs to teach kindergarten, unless it's in an afterschool class AND they agreed to it. That info could be wrong however, I eventually pointed it out, but even still, I don't understand how he thought I agreed to itthough.Are you going to do it though?That situation would be so awkward. Maybe say politely you are going to ask the office of education about it?
Quote from: Kayos on April 04, 2017, 10:09:23 amCo-T: "The kindergarten teacher complained you haven't been showing up to teach Kindergarten."Me: "Kindergarten isn't a class on my schedule, and you only asked me to introduce myself to that class on my first week."Co-T: "Yeah, but, the previous NET would do it, and we're not allowed to add it to your schedule..."Me: "Why aren't you allowed to add it to my schedule?"Co-T: "Yes. I'll tell the kindergarten teacher that you are going to come every week now. This will be off the records..."Me: "Uhhh.... What???????"I tried to fight it a little more, but he still told the kindergarten teacher I'd be doing a kindergarten class once a week. I heard it's illegal for NETs to teach kindergarten, unless it's in an afterschool class AND they agreed to it. That info could be wrong however, I eventually pointed it out, but even still, I don't understand how he thought I agreed to itthough.The fact that it's "off the record" means that your school darn well knows that theyre not supposed to be doing it.
Quote from: CO2 on April 04, 2017, 09:42:00 amWhat the hell did I start? hahahaWhat didn't you start? Next time think of the children.
This happened to me last week too. Co-T: "The kindergarten teacher complained you having been showing up to teach Kindergarten."Me: "Kindergarten isn't a class on my schedule, and you only asked me to introduce myself to that class on my first week."Co-T: "Yeah, but, the old teacher would do it, and we're not allowed to add it to your schedule..."Me: "Why aren't you allowed to add it to my schedule?"Co-T: "Yes. I'll tell the kindergarten teacher that you are going to come every week now. This will be off the records..."Me: "Uhhh.... What???????"I tried to fight it a little more, but he still told the kindergarten teacher I'd be doing a kindergarten class once a week. I heard it's illegal for NETs to teach kindergarten, unless it's in an afterschool class AND they agreed to it. That info could be wrong however, I eventually pointed it out, but even still, I don't understand how he thought I agreed to itthough.