I wrote a long screed about the various issues with camp, which was actually my best ever, before settling on this key tidbit: I often suspect that my colleagues inability to communicate effectively in English is projected onto me as a personal failure for which I bear the ultimate responsibility.
Quote from: LaChaca on August 01, 2016, 04:11:30 pmWhat do you do when a co-teacher accuses you of things that aren't true?She'll say that I said "XYZ" when I NEVER said them...Annoying is starting to become an understatement. I understand that I need to adopt to other's idiosyncrasies but this behavior is borderline disrespectful....It depends what they are saying. If its just water off a ducks back let it slide. It also depends on the individual. If they are well respected it will be worse then if everyone else knows they are cray cray.If it ever becomes an issue bring in a third party and explain that ths individual is misunderstanding what you said. That should be sufficiently embarrassing to make them never mention you again.
What do you do when a co-teacher accuses you of things that aren't true?She'll say that I said "XYZ" when I NEVER said them...Annoying is starting to become an understatement. I understand that I need to adopt to other's idiosyncrasies but this behavior is borderline disrespectful....
The thread on the main page that says "Plans for the future" freaks me out so much I don't even like looking at the title, let alone the thought of reading it. If that was something on my facebook feed I would've hidden it the second I saw it.
Quote from: Loki88 on August 02, 2016, 07:40:55 amQuote from: LaChaca on August 01, 2016, 04:11:30 pmWhat do you do when a co-teacher accuses you of things that aren't true?She'll say that I said "XYZ" when I NEVER said them...Annoying is starting to become an understatement. I understand that I need to adopt to other's idiosyncrasies but this behavior is borderline disrespectful....It depends what they are saying. If its just water off a ducks back let it slide. It also depends on the individual. If they are well respected it will be worse then if everyone else knows they are cray cray.If it ever becomes an issue bring in a third party and explain that ths individual is misunderstanding what you said. That should be sufficiently embarrassing to make them never mention you again.This person has an advanced level of English so she can't misinterpret my words. She'll do this about things that need to get done. For example:Me: "xx, I'm doing the lesson plan for Class A. How many units in the reading book do they need to finish this session?"Her: I'll do it because I need to figure it out.A week later...Her (opens up lesson plan and sees that there are no reading pages on lesson plan)"You said you were going to put the pages in?"Me: "no, I asked you how many units they needed to finish. You said, 'I'll do it bcuz I need to figure it out."WTF...
Quote from: LaChaca on August 02, 2016, 11:27:41 amQuote from: Loki88 on August 02, 2016, 07:40:55 amQuote from: LaChaca on August 01, 2016, 04:11:30 pmWhat do you do when a co-teacher accuses you of things that aren't true?She'll say that I said "XYZ" when I NEVER said them...Annoying is starting to become an understatement. I understand that I need to adopt to other's idiosyncrasies but this behavior is borderline disrespectful....It depends what they are saying. If its just water off a ducks back let it slide. It also depends on the individual. If they are well respected it will be worse then if everyone else knows they are cray cray.If it ever becomes an issue bring in a third party and explain that ths individual is misunderstanding what you said. That should be sufficiently embarrassing to make them never mention you again.This person has an advanced level of English so she can't misinterpret my words. She'll do this about things that need to get done. For example:Me: "xx, I'm doing the lesson plan for Class A. How many units in the reading book do they need to finish this session?"Her: I'll do it because I need to figure it out.A week later...Her (opens up lesson plan and sees that there are no reading pages on lesson plan)"You said you were going to put the pages in?"Me: "no, I asked you how many units they needed to finish. You said, 'I'll do it bcuz I need to figure it out."WTF...If there is a miscommunication while using English it is always their fault. No one will say it but everyone and their dog knows it. Hence the third party I mentioned causing embarrassment. A potential solution to your problem. Do all planning and discussions through messenger. That way there is a back up of what they said. I have three CTs and we sit in a square. I could turn around and tap them on the soldier to discuss lesson plans. I always use messenger. I've also never had a problem like you described. (I of course only use it for planning. Not small talk or personal stuff.)It is considered mildly rude though. But so is defending yourself against others incompetence. Take your pick.
Quote from: sixtieshappy on August 02, 2016, 12:23:38 pmThe thread on the main page that says "Plans for the future" freaks me out so much I don't even like looking at the title, let alone the thought of reading it. If that was something on my facebook feed I would've hidden it the second I saw it.OMG I had the same reaction! I immediately went into a panic response of "Stop stop I don't know, what's with all the pressure!!!"
Quote from: Loki88 on August 02, 2016, 02:20:11 pmQuote from: LaChaca on August 02, 2016, 11:27:41 amQuote from: Loki88 on August 02, 2016, 07:40:55 amQuote from: LaChaca on August 01, 2016, 04:11:30 pmWhat do you do when a co-teacher accuses you of things that aren't true?She'll say that I said "XYZ" when I NEVER said them...Annoying is starting to become an understatement. I understand that I need to adopt to other's idiosyncrasies but this behavior is borderline disrespectful....It depends what they are saying. If its just water off a ducks back let it slide. It also depends on the individual. If they are well respected it will be worse then if everyone else knows they are cray cray.If it ever becomes an issue bring in a third party and explain that ths individual is misunderstanding what you said. That should be sufficiently embarrassing to make them never mention you again.This person has an advanced level of English so she can't misinterpret my words. She'll do this about things that need to get done. For example:Me: "xx, I'm doing the lesson plan for Class A. How many units in the reading book do they need to finish this session?"Her: I'll do it because I need to figure it out.A week later...Her (opens up lesson plan and sees that there are no reading pages on lesson plan)"You said you were going to put the pages in?"Me: "no, I asked you how many units they needed to finish. You said, 'I'll do it bcuz I need to figure it out."WTF...If there is a miscommunication while using English it is always their fault. No one will say it but everyone and their dog knows it. Hence the third party I mentioned causing embarrassment. A potential solution to your problem. Do all planning and discussions through messenger. That way there is a back up of what they said. I have three CTs and we sit in a square. I could turn around and tap them on the soldier to discuss lesson plans. I always use messenger. I've also never had a problem like you described. (I of course only use it for planning. Not small talk or personal stuff.)It is considered mildly rude though. But so is defending yourself against others incompetence. Take your pick.Although I'm a fan of your messenger idea, my school doesn't have it and they're not welcoming to "new ideas."Question: can the situation (re:lesson plan) I posted above be seen as miscommunication? I would like to assume that a person has good intentions but how can a person go from "I'll do it to 'you said you were going to do it?'"
Quote from: LaChaca on August 02, 2016, 02:36:37 pmQuote from: Loki88 on August 02, 2016, 02:20:11 pmQuote from: LaChaca on August 02, 2016, 11:27:41 amQuote from: Loki88 on August 02, 2016, 07:40:55 amQuote from: LaChaca on August 01, 2016, 04:11:30 pmWhat do you do when a co-teacher accuses you of things that aren't true?She'll say that I said "XYZ" when I NEVER said them...Annoying is starting to become an understatement. I understand that I need to adopt to other's idiosyncrasies but this behavior is borderline disrespectful....It depends what they are saying. If its just water off a ducks back let it slide. It also depends on the individual. If they are well respected it will be worse then if everyone else knows they are cray cray.If it ever becomes an issue bring in a third party and explain that ths individual is misunderstanding what you said. That should be sufficiently embarrassing to make them never mention you again.This person has an advanced level of English so she can't misinterpret my words. She'll do this about things that need to get done. For example:Me: "xx, I'm doing the lesson plan for Class A. How many units in the reading book do they need to finish this session?"Her: I'll do it because I need to figure it out.A week later...Her (opens up lesson plan and sees that there are no reading pages on lesson plan)"You said you were going to put the pages in?"Me: "no, I asked you how many units they needed to finish. You said, 'I'll do it bcuz I need to figure it out."WTF...If there is a miscommunication while using English it is always their fault. No one will say it but everyone and their dog knows it. Hence the third party I mentioned causing embarrassment. A potential solution to your problem. Do all planning and discussions through messenger. That way there is a back up of what they said. I have three CTs and we sit in a square. I could turn around and tap them on the soldier to discuss lesson plans. I always use messenger. I've also never had a problem like you described. (I of course only use it for planning. Not small talk or personal stuff.)It is considered mildly rude though. But so is defending yourself against others incompetence. Take your pick.Although I'm a fan of your messenger idea, my school doesn't have it and they're not welcoming to "new ideas."Question: can the situation (re:lesson plan) I posted above be seen as miscommunication? I would like to assume that a person has good intentions but how can a person go from "I'll do it to 'you said you were going to do it?'"As a general rule I stick to;Once is never. Twice is always.If it happened once meh whatever. Benefit of the doubt. If it happens twice (or more) you should maintain constant vigilance with that individual.As for the exact words she used. She could have meant she would look into it and you should get back to her later. (Ie. She meant she had no idea not that she would do it.)Don't sweat it too much though.
How can "I'll do it because I need to figure it out" be taken as "I'm not going to do it"?Better yet, how can "I'll do it" NOT be interpreted as "I'm going to do it"?I understand where one can think that she didn't know at the time ("I have to figure it out") but since I was talking about putting reading pages on the lesson plan, "do it" clearly refers to that. Therefore, "I'll do it" means "I'll put the pages on the lesson plan." Is that not a logical interpretation of those words?My bad for ranting but this person doesn't know how to address issues so she'll accuse me of things; she's done it 3 times and it's annoying. She makes an effort to talk to me in an impertinent way but kindly talks to the other FTs.
I had been at my school less than 2 months before I was told to plan camp entirely by myself. Yep, no worries, I'm sure lots of new teachers have been in the same position. NBD.TL;DREFF CAMP AND EFF MY LIFE
Friday my camp finished. So the first day the coteacher had none of the materials that I had requested for the last month, Even though she said she had already brought them. I asked to see them, and of course she didn't let me look at them, and rather asked if I was accusing her of lying. Never mind, I already had materials for a cheaper alternative activity on the fact that my bullshit detector is so highly tuned these days. But of course rather than the "we each take one of the 5 classes for the whole day", On the Monday morning she changed it so we rotate though 3 classes a day. Lucky I brought all my activity materials rather than just brought enough for one day.Then after the first day she goes off her nut about how the activity that I said I was going to do, I didn't do it, and I didn't follow the plan! I asked her where the materials for the activity where that she purchased last month, that I asked to take last week to prepare. She said that wasn't the issue. The issue was why I didn't follow the plan. Then the next day all the materials show up in my classroom, as if Santa left them over night. Most awesome thing. One of the receipts was in one of the bag, Purchased Monday night. How do these people who can't tell the truth or think and plan more than 7 seconds in to the future to save them self get to a position where they are responsible for children? If you where a parent would you leave your child in the care of a person who is this dishonest? It's really starting to scare me. This is not my only coteacher, and almost all of them seem to have some sort of allergic reaction to truth. Like they lie even when there is absolutely no reason at all to lie.
I had been at my school less than 2 months before I was told to plan camp entirely by myself. Yep, no worries, I'm sure lots of new teachers have been in the same position. NBD.So ...TL;DREFF CAMP AND EFF MY LIFE