Quote from: Mister Tim on March 21, 2017, 01:15:52 pmDid you guys ever take language classes in grade school? Is my experience just that uncommon? Nah, it's not that weird. You're not the only one. When I first started studying Korean I made a K-name for myself. It was a fun way to learn some Korean names and maybe some of the Hanja meanings behind them. Do I go around introducing myself with my Korean name? Of course not. That's def cringey.In my middle school classes I don't use English names because kids just used them as an excuse to come up with the most ridiculous names ever, a la "garlic" haha. So no to that. I don't think it's inherently "wrong" though as long as it's not forced. We're not working in residential schools in an effort to eradicate Korean culture here. They'll be fine if they're called Peter or Susie for 45 mins of light convo practice per week. No one should be forced to do it though, of course.
Did you guys ever take language classes in grade school? Is my experience just that uncommon?
Quote from: sevenpm on March 21, 2017, 01:22:14 pmI remember getting Spanish names in middle school Spanish class. It was so fun to pick them and use them for about a week, and then everyone forgot/went back to their real names. Thankfully we escaped serving our Latino masters! My class actually used our Spanish names pretty much consistently, even calling one student with an English nickname (her last name, since her first name was pretty common) the Spanish version of that name. I had the same "Spanish name" from 6th grade to college, where it FINALLY showed up in the textbook (Aurora is not common)."Taco" was a forbidden name, though.
I remember getting Spanish names in middle school Spanish class. It was so fun to pick them and use them for about a week, and then everyone forgot/went back to their real names. Thankfully we escaped serving our Latino masters!
Quote from: shostager on March 21, 2017, 01:45:37 pmQuote from: sevenpm on March 21, 2017, 01:22:14 pmI remember getting Spanish names in middle school Spanish class. It was so fun to pick them and use them for about a week, and then everyone forgot/went back to their real names. Thankfully we escaped serving our Latino masters! My class actually used our Spanish names pretty much consistently, even calling one student with an English nickname (her last name, since her first name was pretty common) the Spanish version of that name. I had the same "Spanish name" from 6th grade to college, where it FINALLY showed up in the textbook (Aurora is not common)."Taco" was a forbidden name, though. I don't recall if "Taco" was forbidden at my school but one of my friends got away with "Nacho" as his Spanish name
When I dabbled in Japanese in university, the professor called each of us by "Surname+san" and we would call her sensei.
Quote from: elsbethm on March 20, 2017, 03:19:06 pm...Started taking antacids and the problem went away. ...I have been keeping an eye open for Tums or Rolaids, but I haven't seen any. What are the local brands?
...Started taking antacids and the problem went away. ...
Seriously, it's completely bizarre to me that it'd be characterized as " brainwashing you to serve western masters and adopt their values." It's just learning a new language and getting a language-appropriate name to use in that class.
Quote from: JNM on March 21, 2017, 08:08:55 amQuote from: elsbethm on March 20, 2017, 03:19:06 pm...Started taking antacids and the problem went away. ...I have been keeping an eye open for Tums or Rolaids, but I haven't seen any. What are the local brands?I can't really help you there. I stockpiled a bunch when I came over. You could try generic names; Famotidine (Pepcid) and ranitidine (Zantac) are antacid/GERD drugs and shouldn't require a prescription, calcium-carbonate chews (Tums), milk of magnesia (Pepto). Or try to hunt down the name brands in Seoul.
Quote from: Mister Tim on March 21, 2017, 01:15:52 pmSeriously, it's completely bizarre to me that it'd be characterized as " brainwashing you to serve western masters and adopt their values." It's just learning a new language and getting a language-appropriate name to use in that class.It's not you. DeMartino has a few....issues. As you said, every language class I've been in has done the "choose a name in _______ and use it in class" thing.Obviously forcing names on kids and punishing them etc is stupid. But that is common sense. Unfortunately there are idiots working in this country who have done that, or idiots like Steelrails who are bitter about foreigners being in Korea and will accuse them of cultural imperialism and "brainwashing". The rest of the normal people dont care either way.
Quote from: zola on March 21, 2017, 02:15:29 pmQuote from: Mister Tim on March 21, 2017, 01:15:52 pmSeriously, it's completely bizarre to me that it'd be characterized as " brainwashing you to serve western masters and adopt their values." It's just learning a new language and getting a language-appropriate name to use in that class.It's not you. DeMartino has a few....issues. As you said, every language class I've been in has done the "choose a name in _______ and use it in class" thing.Obviously forcing names on kids and punishing them etc is stupid. But that is common sense. Unfortunately there are idiots working in this country who have done that, or idiots like Steelrails who are bitter about foreigners being in Korea and will accuse them of cultural imperialism and "brainwashing". The rest of the normal people dont care either way.While I agree that it's not such a big deal to chose an English-speaker name, I also don't see how there's any point or reason to choose a "language-appropriate" name. Most of us, when we travel, we don't just pick a name from that country and use it, we teach the people there how to say our name. Since most English-speakers' names tend to be derived from some other language anyway, I can't really understand the justification for choosing English-speaker names as a learning tool.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on March 21, 2017, 01:04:34 pmQuote from: Pennypie on March 21, 2017, 12:59:15 pmIf they like it its cool, but are you letting them pick or telling them to make one? If someone they didn't want to would you push it? Thats what i have a problem with. If they want it then thats their choice, I had a girl who wanted to be called garlic last year Agreed. If people want an English name (or any other name for their language course) then great, that's why we're here.Making them take one and then potentially reprimanding them over failure to use it? Absolutely not.There is nothing wrong with their name. Their name is beautiful and it represents who they are. Korean people should not have to change their names or their naming practices to make westerners feel more comfortable. This is English class, not brainwashing you to serve western masters and adopt their values class.Yikes.Did you guys ever take language classes in grade school? Is my experience just that uncommon? I assumed it was commonplace to get a name in a language class, since I did in different classes at different schools, but was that just a string of oddities?Seriously, it's completely bizarre to me that it'd be characterized as " brainwashing you to serve western masters and adopt their values." It's just learning a new language and getting a language-appropriate name to use in that class.
Quote from: Pennypie on March 21, 2017, 12:59:15 pmIf they like it its cool, but are you letting them pick or telling them to make one? If someone they didn't want to would you push it? Thats what i have a problem with. If they want it then thats their choice, I had a girl who wanted to be called garlic last year Agreed. If people want an English name (or any other name for their language course) then great, that's why we're here.Making them take one and then potentially reprimanding them over failure to use it? Absolutely not.There is nothing wrong with their name. Their name is beautiful and it represents who they are. Korean people should not have to change their names or their naming practices to make westerners feel more comfortable. This is English class, not brainwashing you to serve western masters and adopt their values class.
If they like it its cool, but are you letting them pick or telling them to make one? If someone they didn't want to would you push it? Thats what i have a problem with. If they want it then thats their choice, I had a girl who wanted to be called garlic last year
While I agree that it's not such a big deal to chose an English-speaker name, I also don't see how there's any point or reason to choose a "language-appropriate" name.
Most of us, when we travel, we don't just pick a name from that country and use it, we teach the people there how to say our name.
Since most English-speakers' names tend to be derived from some other language anyway, I can't really understand the justification for choosing English-speaker names as a learning tool.
On a somewhat-related note, you ever get those students that treat you like you are the dumbest of the dumb because you mishear, for example, Jiyeon as Jiyeong? It's like, c'mon man, gimme a break. It's one sound off and a hard sound to catch on the tail-end of a syllable, and besides that, you're not helping with the bored mumbling voice you used to tell me your name. lol