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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3780 on: January 20, 2017, 08:18:55 am »

This website is geared up for this already.  The open forum, life in Korea forum, and all the others cover all topics relating to life in Korea. 

That's kinda what I was thinking. What sort of things does someone living in Korea need to know about that wouldn't be covered in those sub-forums? Is the answer to questions like "What do I do with my recyclables" not the same for non-teachers? Is it really just an "I want to associate with people who aren't teachers" thing?

Foreigners working as teachers in Korea have certain common traits, non-teachers do not share those. It's not like most people I know involved in business in this area would want to post on a teacher forum. Some people (like me) do, but you just get standard "teacher type" responses (as just happened).

I am correct that it would benefit this site to just create a non-teacher forum (the customer is always right), people do not need to understand why...just do it.

Completely unrelated to your rant, but this could not be more wrong.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3781 on: January 20, 2017, 08:20:41 am »
I have to finish up making some worksheets for stories from this book, but the back and forth eye motion required to read, then write questions in the separate word processor window triggers my nausea

only 15 stories down, 13 to go  :cry:

Is this the thing where you have to make ten questions per story or something?? :sad: I hope you finish it soon and can get some rest.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3782 on: January 20, 2017, 08:22:40 am »

This website is geared up for this already.  The open forum, life in Korea forum, and all the others cover all topics relating to life in Korea. 

That's kinda what I was thinking. What sort of things does someone living in Korea need to know about that wouldn't be covered in those sub-forums? Is the answer to questions like "What do I do with my recyclables" not the same for non-teachers? Is it really just an "I want to associate with people who aren't teachers" thing?

Foreigners working as teachers in Korea have certain common traits, non-teachers do not share those. It's not like most people I know involved in business in this area would want to post on a teacher forum. Some people (like me) do, but you just get standard "teacher type" responses (as just happened).

I am correct that it would benefit this site to just create a non-teacher forum (the customer is always right), people do not need to understand why...just do it.

Completely unrelated to your rant, but this could not be more wrong.


Right? Has this person ever worked retail? Hah. The customer always has an opinion, would be more accurate.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3783 on: January 20, 2017, 08:25:31 am »

This website is geared up for this already.  The open forum, life in Korea forum, and all the others cover all topics relating to life in Korea. 

That's kinda what I was thinking. What sort of things does someone living in Korea need to know about that wouldn't be covered in those sub-forums? Is the answer to questions like "What do I do with my recyclables" not the same for non-teachers? Is it really just an "I want to associate with people who aren't teachers" thing?

Foreigners working as teachers in Korea have certain common traits, non-teachers do not share those. It's not like most people I know involved in business in this area would want to post on a teacher forum. Some people (like me) do, but you just get standard "teacher type" responses (as just happened).

I am correct that it would benefit this site to just create a non-teacher forum (the customer is always right), people do not need to understand why...just do it.

Completely unrelated to your rant, but this could not be more wrong.


Right? Has this person ever worked retail? Hah. The customer always has an opinion, would be more accurate.

 :laugh: So true. I probably would have hurt my eyes if I had tried to roll them any farther back when I worked retail.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3784 on: January 20, 2017, 08:45:53 am »

This website is geared up for this already.  The open forum, life in Korea forum, and all the others cover all topics relating to life in Korea. 

That's kinda what I was thinking. What sort of things does someone living in Korea need to know about that wouldn't be covered in those sub-forums? Is the answer to questions like "What do I do with my recyclables" not the same for non-teachers? Is it really just an "I want to associate with people who aren't teachers" thing?

Foreigners working as teachers in Korea have certain common traits, non-teachers do not share those. It's not like most people I know involved in business in this area would want to post on a teacher forum. Some people (like me) do, but you just get standard "teacher type" responses (as just happened).

I am correct that it would benefit this site to just create a non-teacher forum (the customer is always right), people do not need to understand why...just do it.

Completely unrelated to your rant, but this could not be more wrong.


Right? Has this person ever worked retail? Hah. The customer always has an opinion, would be more accurate.

 :laugh: So true. I probably would have hurt my eyes if I had tried to roll them any farther back when I worked retail.


I always thought that that statement was truncated.  The rest of it is "...but the supplier chooses who is considered a customer."

The negotiations about what the proactive customer wants allow the supplier to determine this.

example: I walk into Burger King and ask for a Big Mac.  I am told that they can't do that, but would gladly sell me a Whopper.  If I insist on a Big Mac, I will be asked to leave.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3785 on: January 20, 2017, 08:57:34 am »
example: I walk into Burger King and ask for a Big Mac.  I am told that they can't do that, but would gladly sell me a Whopper.  If I insist on a Big Mac, I will be asked to leave.

My brother's first job was at a Wendy's in a university town. He worked the late shift during a time when a manager wasn't there for at least a couple of hours, and every night he got at least one customer insisting that he sell him or her a Big Mac.

They were usually high or drunk, though, and asking them to leave usually didn't work. xD

When he first started, the below was a very typical interaction.

Cust: I'll take a Big Mac.
Him: Sir, this is Wendy's. We don't sell Big Macs.
Cust: Don't lie to me, I ordered a Big Mac from here yesterday.
Him: I was here yesterday, and, yes, you did, and I told you we don't sell Big Macs.
Cust: But I ate it.
Him: You ate a Double. That's what we have here.
Cust: No, no, I see what you're doing here. You're just trying to get me to spend more money on something else, but I want my Big Mac.
Him: You see that building over there? *points towards the window near the doors* There's a McDonald's right over there and they'll be happy to sell you a Big Mac.
Cust: But I'm here right now and I want a Big Mac.
Him: I can sell you a Double.
Cust: I don't want a Double, I want a Big Mac.
Him: We don't sell Big Macs, this is Wendy's. You can buy a Big Mac from McDonald's.
Cust: But I see a picture of a Big Mac right up there.
Him: That's a Double, sir.
Cust: Give me a ****** Big Mac.
Him: ... okay, sir, one Big Mac. *Rings up a Double*

He eventually learned to skip most of that and just gave them whatever was closest and let them think what they wanted. It was easier.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2017, 09:03:40 am by Chinguetti »


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3786 on: January 20, 2017, 10:40:04 am »
I have to finish up making some worksheets for stories from this book, but the back and forth eye motion required to read, then write questions in the separate word processor window triggers my nausea

only 15 stories down, 13 to go  :cry:

Is this the thing where you have to make ten questions per story or something?? :sad: I hope you finish it soon and can get some rest.

20 questions per story  :cry:

I decided to take a nap. woke up to someone grilling fish in the lounge


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3787 on: January 20, 2017, 12:26:55 pm »

This website is geared up for this already.  The open forum, life in Korea forum, and all the others cover all topics relating to life in Korea. 

That's kinda what I was thinking. What sort of things does someone living in Korea need to know about that wouldn't be covered in those sub-forums? Is the answer to questions like "What do I do with my recyclables" not the same for non-teachers? Is it really just an "I want to associate with people who aren't teachers" thing?

Foreigners working as teachers in Korea have certain common traits, non-teachers do not share those. It's not like most people I know involved in business in this area would want to post on a teacher forum. Some people (like me) do, but you just get standard "teacher type" responses (as just happened).

I am correct that it would benefit this site to just create a non-teacher forum (the customer is always right), people do not need to understand why...just do it.

Completely unrelated to your rant, but this could not be more wrong.


Right? Has this person ever worked retail? Hah. The customer always has an opinion, would be more accurate.

 :laugh: So true. I probably would have hurt my eyes if I had tried to roll them any farther back when I worked retail.


I always thought that that statement was truncated.  The rest of it is "...but the supplier chooses who is considered a customer."

The negotiations about what the proactive customer wants allow the supplier to determine this.

example: I walk into Burger King and ask for a Big Mac.  I am told that they can't do that, but would gladly sell me a Whopper.  If I insist on a Big Mac, I will be asked to leave.

I think "regulars" who only ever look, try everything on, and then decide to wait for a sale only to find their sizes are gone should also be asked to leave. When I used to work in retail, we had at least a dozen of these "customers" and then they would ask us to hold something for them until it went on sale. No, bitch, that's not how it works. Also, it's not going to go on sale for at least another month and we don't hold.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3788 on: January 20, 2017, 12:27:29 pm »
I have to finish up making some worksheets for stories from this book, but the back and forth eye motion required to read, then write questions in the separate word processor window triggers my nausea

only 15 stories down, 13 to go  :cry:

Is this the thing where you have to make ten questions per story or something?? :sad: I hope you finish it soon and can get some rest.

20 questions per story  :cry:

I decided to take a nap. woke up to someone grilling fish in the lounge

Oh, god. :cry: :cry: Did you get through a few more stories?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3789 on: January 20, 2017, 01:51:14 pm »
I have to finish up making some worksheets for stories from this book, but the back and forth eye motion required to read, then write questions in the separate word processor window triggers my nausea

only 15 stories down, 13 to go  :cry:

Is this the thing where you have to make ten questions per story or something?? :sad: I hope you finish it soon and can get some rest.

20 questions per story  :cry:

I decided to take a nap. woke up to someone grilling fish in the lounge

Oh, god. :cry: :cry: Did you get through a few more stories?

4 left!

After making the questions for those I just gotta... format all of them nicely into worksheets and then make answer keys

 :cry: :cry:

I'll probably do that second part on Monday. And then it's off to Jeju!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3790 on: January 20, 2017, 02:04:32 pm »
I have to finish up making some worksheets for stories from this book, but the back and forth eye motion required to read, then write questions in the separate word processor window triggers my nausea

only 15 stories down, 13 to go  :cry:

Is this the thing where you have to make ten questions per story or something?? :sad: I hope you finish it soon and can get some rest.

20 questions per story  :cry:

I decided to take a nap. woke up to someone grilling fish in the lounge

Oh, god. :cry: :cry: Did you get through a few more stories?

4 left!

After making the questions for those I just gotta... format all of them nicely into worksheets and then make answer keys

 :cry: :cry:

I'll probably do that second part on Monday. And then it's off to Jeju!

 :cry: :cry: :cry: Good luck!!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3791 on: January 20, 2017, 03:26:10 pm »
Finished writing the questions  8)

Now I can take a break from thinking about them until monday  :undecided:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3792 on: January 23, 2017, 10:08:24 am »
The heater isn't working properly today--it's blowing out cold air. :sad: Looks like I'll be visiting some of the other teachers after lunch today to use their heat.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3793 on: January 23, 2017, 11:22:19 am »
Why is it that in my third year here doing this job I still feel like I have no idea what to do in the 3 weeks ish after winter camp when the textbooks are finished and no one has any motivation for anything.
I have stuff prepared for one week and a general idea of what I can do beyond but really, self, this is the third time doing the shitty February classes. I should be able to think of something that isn't going g to be boring/frustrating for me and the students.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3794 on: January 24, 2017, 09:15:54 am »
I hate the brooms here. The strained back is a given, but does anyone else also experience hand cramps when they try to sweep with these tiny brooms? I can't hold them the way I would hold a broom that's fit for an adult and my hand starts cramping up thirty seconds into sweeping.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3795 on: January 24, 2017, 12:52:03 pm »
If your school doesn't have full length brooms, that blows. For home I got a swiffer sweeper because I didn't feel like crouching ajumma style to sweep with the teeny broom that was already there.

Save your back! Get a swiffer sweeper! Or if at school, make the kids sweep, hahah


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3796 on: January 27, 2017, 03:54:41 am »
example: I walk into Burger King and ask for a Big Mac.  I am told that they can't do that, but would gladly sell me a Whopper.  If I insist on a Big Mac, I will be asked to leave.

My brother's first job was at a Wendy's in a university town. He worked the late shift during a time when a manager wasn't there for at least a couple of hours, and every night he got at least one customer insisting that he sell him or her a Big Mac.

They were usually high or drunk, though, and asking them to leave usually didn't work. xD

When he first started, the below was a very typical interaction.

Cust: I'll take a Big Mac.
Him: Sir, this is Wendy's. We don't sell Big Macs.
Cust: Don't lie to me, I ordered a Big Mac from here yesterday.
Him: I was here yesterday, and, yes, you did, and I told you we don't sell Big Macs.
Cust: But I ate it.
Him: You ate a Double. That's what we have here.
Cust: No, no, I see what you're doing here. You're just trying to get me to spend more money on something else, but I want my Big Mac.
Him: You see that building over there? *points towards the window near the doors* There's a McDonald's right over there and they'll be happy to sell you a Big Mac.
Cust: But I'm here right now and I want a Big Mac.
Him: I can sell you a Double.
Cust: I don't want a Double, I want a Big Mac.
Him: We don't sell Big Macs, this is Wendy's. You can buy a Big Mac from McDonald's.
Cust: But I see a picture of a Big Mac right up there.
Him: That's a Double, sir.
Cust: Give me a ****** Big Mac.
Him: ... okay, sir, one Big Mac. *Rings up a Double*

He eventually learned to skip most of that and just gave them whatever was closest and let them think what they wanted. It was easier.

Was the manager a weenie?  He should have told them to leave and call the cops if they kicked up a fuss over it.  Dealing with morons really makes me hate customer service.  (Though most people are nice enough, I guess.) 

If ever I go home, a trade, some specialized training in some other field.  Anything, except customer service.  Better yet, when you're dealing with obnoxious idiots, it'd be awesome to be like Trump and shout or talk over them.  (Talk louder than they do.  Ha ha.)


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3797 on: January 27, 2017, 11:27:37 am »
I got 3 weeks left at my current hagwon. THANK GOD! I've never been surrounded by so many gossipy individuals, people whispering about each other and co-Ts talking about foreign teachers in Korean.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3798 on: January 28, 2017, 07:39:26 am »
The fascist liberal media locking threads when the masses don't think what they are supposed to think...

http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,103769.0/


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3799 on: January 28, 2017, 09:43:29 am »
The fascist liberal media locking threads when the masses don't think what they are supposed to think...

http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,103769.0/

Don't mock the moderator less you get this thread locked.  They do like to crack the whip occasionally, even mute people occasionally, but they are pretty fair.  Over on Dave's, you'd just get unilaterally kicked off with no explanation.  Such a blowhole; haven't been on that site in ages.  At least take solace that we're entering a new anti PC world.