RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

Yep. It's so frustrating in school too, because I'm like... despite how it feels a lot of the time, I wasn't hired by the government just for decoration. I was hired because I'm a native speaker and I know things about words that you don't. SO Y U INSIST ON USING WRONG WORDS

The kids are cleaning the school today and the door is constantly open so my hands are freezing.

In my first year one of my CTs had the students write in a journal. She gave me half of them to look through. Specifically the high level ones.

I have never been so loved or admired or handsome or wonderful as I was in that year.

We did this every week. There are two hundred students per grade....
Luckily she only taught one grade.

Two topics for the complaining thread...

Why are there all these small-market incredibly specific sub-forums, YET there is not a non-English teacher forum. Shocking as it may sound, not all of us are teachers or military. There is not a proper "expat" forum for Korea, as there are not many of us, okay I understand. But this site could start a sub-forum for us, you just paste some HTML junk, and bam there it is. How about getting on that?

Also, is there some reason why this website looks like 1995 technology? Pretty sure there is stock software these days you can use for a good looking forum. The font is too small, the emoticons look like pixilated garbage, really the whole design of the site is horrible. Owners should probably get on that. Thanks.

Two topics for the complaining thread...

Why are there all these small-market incredibly specific sub-forums, YET there is not a non-English teacher forum. Shocking as it may sound, not all of us are teachers or military. There is not a proper "expat" forum for Korea, as there are not many of us, okay I understand. But this site could start a sub-forum for us, you just paste some HTML junk, and bam there it is. How about getting on that?

Also, is there some reason why this website looks like 1995 technology? Pretty sure there is stock software these days you can use for a good looking forum. The font is too small, the emoticons look like pixilated garbage, really the whole design of the site is horrible. Owners should probably get on that. Thanks.

Compared to Dave's ESL, this site is positively futuristic!

Two topics for the complaining thread...

Why are there all these small-market incredibly specific sub-forums, YET there is not a non-English teacher forum. Shocking as it may sound, not all of us are teachers or military. There is not a proper "expat" forum for Korea, as there are not many of us, okay I understand. But this site could start a sub-forum for us, you just paste some HTML junk, and bam there it is. How about getting on that?

     Or, you know, you could start a thread for those of us who speak other languages.
Heck, I could do that.
Heck, I just did do that.
Gripe away! 

     Anyway, if that seems lame ( ), there are already region-specific sub-forums under the "International" sub-forum. While they deal mostly with travelling etc, there's no reason why they can't be used differently. 

Also, is there some reason why this website looks like 1995 technology? Pretty sure there is stock software these days you can use for a good looking forum. The font is too small, the emoticons look like pixilated garbage, really the whole design of the site is horrible. Owners should probably get on that. Thanks.

    Not an unreasonable complaint, but it is one that's pretty easy to address: just use your scroll wheel to zoom in. Boom! Bigger font.
And the emoticons were much much much much worse a few years back. Good Lord, you wouldn't believe the amount of moaning and whinging there was about a few ugly emoticons... 

     In my opinion, the amount of effort and the lengthy delays required to update Waygook's interface doesn't really seem worth the trouble.

The request was for a forum for people who live in Korea, but whose profession is not english teacher.

Not a non-English language forum.

The request was for a forum for people who live in Korea, but whose profession is not english teacher.

Not a non-English language forum.

    Oh. So you meant "non English-teachers", not "non-English teachers"? Darn. I spent entire minutes on starting a non-English teacher thread because of that hyphen! 
    Oh well. You could still try posting stuff in the relevant region under the "international" sub-forum...

   And by the way, my favourite punctuation mark to misplace is the following:

Please enjoy the thread

The request was for a forum for people who live in Korea, but whose profession is not english teacher.

Not a non-English language forum.

A lot of the Facebook groups are not job specific. For example OINK or Every Expat in Korea. Try there.

It would be best if the owner of the site would simply start a NOT ENGLISH TEACHERS sub-forum, we do not want lazy work arounds, we want what we want. Thanks.

It would be best if the owner of the site would simply start a NOT ENGLISH TEACHERS sub-forum, we do not want lazy work arounds, we want what we want. Thanks.

We being....you?


Start your own forum, Pay for the website etc.

We being....you?

Start your own forum, Pay for the website etc.

...and the other 17 or so non-teachers non-military in Korea.

No, my profession is not "website guy". I would prefer this site start that sub-forum, as I already clearly stated.

We being....you?

Start your own forum, Pay for the website etc.

...and the other 17 or so non-teachers non-military in Korea.

No, my profession is not "website guy". I would prefer this site start that sub-forum, as I already clearly stated.

Okay okay now i get what your doing 

We being....you?

Start your own forum, Pay for the website etc.

...and the other 17 or so non-teachers non-military in Korea.

No, my profession is not "website guy". I would prefer this site start that sub-forum, as I already clearly stated.

You could check out r/korea (https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/), seems to be a bit less teacher-orientated

...or this site could just start a non-teacher sub-forum. It's not rocket science.

...or this site could just start a non-teacher sub-forum. It's not rocket science.

     But it *is* a lot of work for, as you said, what will likely turn out to be very very few participants.

     And to be fair, the front page of Waygook states that this website "is geared towards EFL/ESL teachers in South Korea".

     That said, I would enjoy having another sub-forum to browse through. Start a petition, get everybody to send Arsalan or one of the mods a PM and maybe you could get it to happen. And as google translate tells me* your countrymen often say: 祝你好運!!!! 

*Do not trust electronic translations or else you will end up with this.

^lol! I never before noticed the smaller text that says, "Cheap, fast & easy" 

Right...

"Waygook is geared towards EFL/ESL teachers in South Korea"
"Dave's, for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World"

Which makes there no non-teacher discussion forum in Korea. Which is the same old problem that has existed here for years...except nobody realizes it is a problem...because they are all English teachers and assume everyone else is also. Hence my complaining on this complaint thread!

The word "Waygook" does not require one to be an English teacher. It is a well-named site, they can effortlessly expand their market by creating a forum for non-teachers to come and discuss non-teacher stuff (simply requires someone getting off their lazy butt and making a sub-forum, which takes what 10min and some coffee on a Sunday?). This would also differentiate the site from Dave's Ultra Lame ESL Cafe. Also there are lots of contractors who pass thru on business meetings with Samsung and such, and kyopos who are basically foreigners working here in non-teacher jobs, who would like a professional non-teacher forum to post about life in Korea.

We don't like posting surrounded by English teachers, it makes us feel dirty. Our own space please, thanks. 

Right...

"Waygook is geared towards EFL/ESL teachers in South Korea"
"Dave's, for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World"

Which makes there no non-teacher discussion forum in Korea. Which is the same old problem that has existed here for years...except nobody realizes it is a problem...because they are all English teachers and assume everyone else is also. Hence my complaining on this complaint thread!

The word "Waygook" does not require one to be an English teacher. It is a well-named site, they can effortlessly expand their market by creating a forum for non-teachers to come and discuss non-teacher stuff (simply requires someone getting off their lazy butt and making a sub-forum, which takes what 10min and some coffee on a Sunday?). This would also differentiate the site from Dave's Ultra Lame ESL Cafe. Also there are lots of contractors who pass thru on business meetings with Samsung and such, and kyopos who are basically foreigners working here in non-teacher jobs, who would like a professional non-teacher forum to post about life in Korea.

We don't like posting surrounded by English teachers, it makes us feel dirty. Our own space please, thanks. 

This website is geared up for this already.  The open forum, life in Korea forum, and all the others cover all topics relating to life in Korea.  If you want to feel special, donate to an orphange.  Creating a new forum to do what the main forum already does is ludicrous, as the number of people likely to use it would not be worth the effort. 

There is nothing in the rules that state all posts have to be relevant to teachers only.

Henry Ford: "you can have an colour you want, so long as it is black"
Ptolemy: "I want a pink one with green spots"

Right...
Also there are lots of contractors who pass thru on business meetings with Samsung and such, and kyopos who are basically foreigners working here in non-teacher jobs, who would like a professional non-teacher forum to post about life in Korea.

Soooo...
...what's stopping you from starting a new thread to gather names of those who would be interested in this? Stop ranting in the ranting thread and start gathering interested persons in the gathering interested persons thread.

Might be that with enough PMs you'll catch the attention of the powers that be.

Be the change you want to see in the world Waygook!
Fight for your right to party convene with your peers!
Power to the (non English-teacher) people!


Anywho, as you yourself said, it's easy to knock a good thing, but I think most of us (dirty ESL teachers) think Waygook is pretty cool as is.

This website is geared up for this already.  The open forum, life in Korea forum, and all the others cover all topics relating to life in Korea. 

That's kinda what I was thinking. What sort of things does someone living in Korea need to know about that wouldn't be covered in those sub-forums? Is the answer to questions like "What do I do with my recyclables" not the same for non-teachers? Is it really just an "I want to associate with people who aren't teachers" thing?