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  • Mister Tim
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • September 08, 2013, 10:33:54 am
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3700 on: January 11, 2017, 01:34:33 pm »
Eh, clean enough. xD

Unfortunately, 2 is the tack that was taken, so his response afterwards is a little less surprising and a touch less unwarranted. We can't expect him to be calm and mature when calmness and maturity aren't what he was treated with to begin with.

Yes, his first comment was absolutely douchetastic, but he does have a point in saying that it isn't really reasonable to expect him to have the full backstory as presented over dozens of pages of a rant/vent megathread. People reacted without keeping that in mind, and then were surprised when he dug in his heels, which in retrospect is nearly as odd as his behavior seemed.

I'm not defending his initial comment here, of course. It was pretty tactless and uppitty, and taking it to nasty PMs kinda supports the idea that maybe he's just a bit of a douche. I just have more time than I know what to do with this week, so I thought I'd blabber on for a bit about the whole interaction.

Here's the thing, no one was expecting him to do that. The expectation was that he shouldn't jump to a completely unsupported conclusion without asking for details, like any normal person would, especially since this is the rant thread, but he chose to ignore that and instead launched right into attack mode. Then he was shocked when someone decided to step into the ring with him and give him a dose of his own bullshit?

While it's true I could have used more tact, I didn't and still don't feel he deserved it, especially when he chose to question yirj17's honesty rather than admit that he'd made a serious error in judgement and continued to go on to try to justify it. His approach was completely inappropriate and tacky, and I wasn't going to show him any consideration if he couldn't provide the same.

All the same, I'm happy to leave this where it is and will ignore him on this matter from here and out, PMs included.

Oh, I don't think your reaction was unjustified at all. I just don't think it was helpful, either.  :laugh:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3701 on: January 11, 2017, 03:05:41 pm »
Oh, I don't think your reaction was unjustified at all. I just don't think it was helpful, either.  :laugh:

I wasn't trying to be helpful, I'll give you that. xD


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3702 on: January 11, 2017, 09:05:52 pm »
Telling someone they are an embarassment is not trolling!  Seriously, this place is becoming like Daves ESL police state!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3703 on: January 12, 2017, 07:44:21 am »
I hope I completely misunderstood this situation so someone in the know, PLEASE, please, please tell me. I'm naturally paranoid, this makes me a little more than that. 

Apparently all the teachers' Internet activity is going to be monitored more actively this year. As in, the system is somehow connected to the Head Teacher's computer and what you're doing will be mirrored on his computer. It's to monitor that teachers are using the Internet for education purposes and not online shopping, or watching videos.

The head teacher asked another teacher what she was doing on gmarket, she said classroom supply shopping, he asked if clothes were classroom supplies, she wanted to know how he knew what she was looking at, he explained the above, she explained it to me later.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3704 on: January 12, 2017, 10:31:13 am »
Power has been out at school for about 30 minutes. Now there's even less of a point to deskwarming.


  • Kyndo
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    • March 02, 2027, 11:00:00 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3705 on: January 12, 2017, 10:36:26 am »
I hope I completely misunderstood this situation so someone in the know, PLEASE, please, please tell me. I'm naturally paranoid, this makes me a little more than that. 

Apparently all the teachers' Internet activity is going to be monitored more actively this year. As in, the system is somehow connected to the Head Teacher's computer and what you're doing will be mirrored on his computer. It's to monitor that teachers are using the Internet for education purposes and not online shopping, or watching videos.

The head teacher asked another teacher what she was doing on gmarket, she said classroom supply shopping, he asked if clothes were classroom supplies, she wanted to know how he knew what she was looking at, he explained the above, she explained it to me later.

Never heard of that.  Is that in a hagwon?  Does sound pretty shitty.  I know at a boys middle school I did some extra classes in, they blocked all outside email, so teachers could only use the school one.  At my school, they have this dumb 'Hantool' program thing which closes the school system and keeps deleting my uTorrent, not sure if it monitors it, but then again I suppose all internet use is monitored......but nothing like having someone checking it in real time like your head teacher.  Sounds like he/she has got too much time on his/her hands.
From what I've heard from my coteachers, IT in public schools have the ability to track your internet use. Most don't bother because it's wayyyy too much work but if you have an uber busybody who absolutely must know what you're doing at all timesthen yeah, they can hover over your virtual shoulder.  :undecided:


  • JNM
  • Waygook Lord

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    • January 19, 2015, 10:16:48 am
    • Cairo, Egypt (formerly Seoul)
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3706 on: January 12, 2017, 10:40:34 am »
Not unusual for employers to do this.

Courts in Canada and elsewhere have established that there is no expectation of privacy on your employer provided computer.

Not sure of the local law, but would be surprised if it was different:



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3707 on: January 12, 2017, 10:53:44 am »
Nope, not a hagwon, it'll be throughout the province. I understand them doing it, it feels like micromanaging, but I understand why they're doing it. I just want to know for sure.


  • grey
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • April 08, 2011, 04:47:11 am
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3708 on: January 12, 2017, 11:14:55 am »
Koreans should be taught that the alphabet has 25 letters. There doesn't seem to be a need for y.
Ko fills half his luggage with instant noodles for his international business travels, a lesson he learned after assuming on his first trip that three packages would suffice for six days. “Man, was I wrong. Since then, I always make sure I pack enough.”
-AP


  • flyingspider
  • Super Waygook

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    • February 27, 2016, 08:33:47 pm
    • Gyeonggi-do
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3709 on: January 12, 2017, 11:36:12 am »
Nope, not a hagwon, it'll be throughout the province. I understand them doing it, it feels like micromanaging, but I understand why they're doing it. I just want to know for sure.
Which province?

Rant: Can any of these kids think for themselves? We were playing a simple four corners game at the end of class, and the group of 10 kids all shuffled together from one corner to another. They just all do what the other people do. It's like that when they do art projects too.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3710 on: January 12, 2017, 11:56:03 am »
Rant: Can any of these kids think for themselves? We were playing a simple four corners game at the end of class, and the group of 10 kids all shuffled together from one corner to another. They just all do what the other people do. It's like that when they do art projects too.

The West: The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

The East: The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.


  • flyingspider
  • Super Waygook

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    • February 27, 2016, 08:33:47 pm
    • Gyeonggi-do
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3711 on: January 12, 2017, 12:10:00 pm »
Rant: Can any of these kids think for themselves? We were playing a simple four corners game at the end of class, and the group of 10 kids all shuffled together from one corner to another. They just all do what the other people do. It's like that when they do art projects too.

The West: The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

The East: The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
Yeah I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. But it does makes games and crafts rather boring when they all do the same thing.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3712 on: January 12, 2017, 12:31:02 pm »
Rant: Can any of these kids think for themselves? We were playing a simple four corners game at the end of class, and the group of 10 kids all shuffled together from one corner to another. They just all do what the other people do. It's like that when they do art projects too.

The West: The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

The East: The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
Yeah I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. But it does makes games and crafts rather boring when they all do the same thing.

The best is when I give them examples and they still sit there with blank pieces of paper and just end up copying what I draw. 


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3713 on: January 12, 2017, 01:00:18 pm »
Nope, not a hagwon, it'll be throughout the province. I understand them doing it, it feels like micromanaging, but I understand why they're doing it. I just want to know for sure.
Which province?

Rant: Can any of these kids think for themselves? We were playing a simple four corners game at the end of class, and the group of 10 kids all shuffled together from one corner to another. They just all do what the other people do. It's like that when they do art projects too.

Yes.  Need to know.


  • Kyndo
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    • March 02, 2027, 11:00:00 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3714 on: January 12, 2017, 02:41:06 pm »
Yes.  Need to know.
Gyeongsangbuk-do for sure, but I'm fairly certain that all public school IT departments are capable of calling up browser history records.

Big brother is watching you!
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3715 on: January 12, 2017, 03:33:06 pm »
Koreans should be taught that the alphabet has 25 letters. There doesn't seem to be a need for y.

Korean kids just do not seem able to say the word "year," but they have no problem with other Y words.

This drives me nuts:

"Say it like this: his."
"Heees."
"His."
"Heeees."
"No, like this: his."
"Heeeeeeeees."
"Ok...fine, let's try some long E sounds then since you're so good at them! Say this: beach."
"Bitch."

 :cry:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3716 on: January 13, 2017, 07:41:26 am »
I'm really looking forward to explaining to my computer-illiterate non-english speaking co-teacher that the computer screen upstairs and my computer downstairs are both fucked.

It's the touch screen upstairs that has the problem and I don't think she understands touch screen since she always touches the screen and gets shocked when the slides move.


  • grey
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3717 on: January 13, 2017, 08:45:03 am »
Who, what, where, when, whow.
Ko fills half his luggage with instant noodles for his international business travels, a lesson he learned after assuming on his first trip that three packages would suffice for six days. “Man, was I wrong. Since then, I always make sure I pack enough.”
-AP


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3718 on: January 13, 2017, 08:49:30 am »
I'm really looking forward to explaining to my computer-illiterate non-english speaking co-teacher that the computer screen upstairs and my computer downstairs are both fucked.

It's the touch screen upstairs that has the problem and I don't think she understands touch screen since she always touches the screen and gets shocked when the slides move.

Yep that didn't work.  The screen was literally moving right in front of her face and she didn't understand.  She kept saying "the screen is fine now".  Guess I'll just suffer forever and it will only affect me since no one else uses that computer.


  • Pennypie
  • Expert Waygook

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    • July 26, 2014, 08:16:47 pm
    • Koreaaa
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3719 on: January 13, 2017, 09:41:59 am »
First day back after my trip home.

Walk in to find 2 live birds and one dead bird in the English classroom.

They wont put the heating on because there are no students and they suggest I move to one of the homerooms because they can control the heating themselves.


Probably moving schools in March but no one can give me an answer until...probably end of Feb.
Co-teacher said she's 99% sure I will have to move main schools but doesn't know about the rest. Unless things changed from last year, in which case she isn't actually sure. Coordinator is a damp squib so no point asking him.
Why. For once I was really happy with my schools and they are happy with me.

Before the vacation the principal asked me if i planned to stay with this school for the new semester...how the **** do you not know its not my choice.

FML :cry:

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