Quote from: damocha on December 23, 2016, 10:31:51 amQuote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:07:18 amThe first time I met my employer, I was in casual business attire (Dress pants, business shirt, and tie. I got told I was too overdressed, to wear the dress pants, but just wear a casual t-shirt instead of the shirt and tie). And yeah, that guy sounds like a dick. I hope they didn't give him a renewal after demanding the contract.As for the bolded part, that is why I have decided to renew (or get an extension on my contract) if I get offered a renewal. I want to stay longer, but not for a full year. One of the people who used to be in my town (who left recently), started in a June, but finished in a September, so it seems like they MAY do extensions, or something like that. She got the flight allowance as well.If I do get moved, and my new places are really bad, I probably will give my notice.When you say "casual t-shirt" I hope to God you mean a button up or Polo and not a literal t-shirt. I completely understand that a suit is overkill. A tie might be a little much especially if you have elementary. Regardless, it's always better to overdress than underdress.Nope, a literal T-shirt. And I wasn't wearing a suit, I was wearing a button up shirt and tie - which they weren't happy with. Whenever I've met them in a literal T-shirt, they have been a lot happier. Which is a shame, I bought a bunch of button up shirts before coming here, thinking I'd have to wear them. But they get angry when I do because "you don't need to dress that formally here."
Quote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:07:18 amThe first time I met my employer, I was in casual business attire (Dress pants, business shirt, and tie. I got told I was too overdressed, to wear the dress pants, but just wear a casual t-shirt instead of the shirt and tie). And yeah, that guy sounds like a dick. I hope they didn't give him a renewal after demanding the contract.As for the bolded part, that is why I have decided to renew (or get an extension on my contract) if I get offered a renewal. I want to stay longer, but not for a full year. One of the people who used to be in my town (who left recently), started in a June, but finished in a September, so it seems like they MAY do extensions, or something like that. She got the flight allowance as well.If I do get moved, and my new places are really bad, I probably will give my notice.When you say "casual t-shirt" I hope to God you mean a button up or Polo and not a literal t-shirt. I completely understand that a suit is overkill. A tie might be a little much especially if you have elementary. Regardless, it's always better to overdress than underdress.
The first time I met my employer, I was in casual business attire (Dress pants, business shirt, and tie. I got told I was too overdressed, to wear the dress pants, but just wear a casual t-shirt instead of the shirt and tie). And yeah, that guy sounds like a dick. I hope they didn't give him a renewal after demanding the contract.As for the bolded part, that is why I have decided to renew (or get an extension on my contract) if I get offered a renewal. I want to stay longer, but not for a full year. One of the people who used to be in my town (who left recently), started in a June, but finished in a September, so it seems like they MAY do extensions, or something like that. She got the flight allowance as well.If I do get moved, and my new places are really bad, I probably will give my notice.
Quote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:38:43 amQuote from: damocha on December 23, 2016, 10:31:51 amQuote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:07:18 amThe first time I met my employer, I was in casual business attire (Dress pants, business shirt, and tie. I got told I was too overdressed, to wear the dress pants, but just wear a casual t-shirt instead of the shirt and tie). And yeah, that guy sounds like a dick. I hope they didn't give him a renewal after demanding the contract.As for the bolded part, that is why I have decided to renew (or get an extension on my contract) if I get offered a renewal. I want to stay longer, but not for a full year. One of the people who used to be in my town (who left recently), started in a June, but finished in a September, so it seems like they MAY do extensions, or something like that. She got the flight allowance as well.If I do get moved, and my new places are really bad, I probably will give my notice.When you say "casual t-shirt" I hope to God you mean a button up or Polo and not a literal t-shirt. I completely understand that a suit is overkill. A tie might be a little much especially if you have elementary. Regardless, it's always better to overdress than underdress.Nope, a literal T-shirt. And I wasn't wearing a suit, I was wearing a button up shirt and tie - which they weren't happy with. Whenever I've met them in a literal T-shirt, they have been a lot happier. Which is a shame, I bought a bunch of button up shirts before coming here, thinking I'd have to wear them. But they get angry when I do because "you don't need to dress that formally here."So all the teachers at your school wear t-shirts and dress pants?
Quote from: chupacaubrey on December 23, 2016, 12:48:26 pmFeeling myself about to be screwed. Put in for vacation ages ago. Apparently now it's a problem because the times I was told I could go home early during exams actually count against my vacation hours. I've seen this come up a lot. Anyone ever tackle it? I'm prepared to take unpaid leave but consarnit.Are you public school? If yes, do you use NEIS? If yes, did you or your manager enter your early leaving during exams into NEIS? If yes, what did they enter them as? If you don't use NEIS, did you get it in writing with a VP or principal signature?Did you enter your vacation times into NEIS? Was it approved? If yes, you're fine, don't worry. If no, why didn't they approve it? Or did they just ignnore it. Basically, if it's just a verbal agreement, it's entirely possible that an unreasonable manager or VP or principal can leave you totally boned on vacation. If all your i's are dotted and t's crossed, you're fine and they're likely fussing over nothing.That sounds stress. I hope it works out.
Feeling myself about to be screwed. Put in for vacation ages ago. Apparently now it's a problem because the times I was told I could go home early during exams actually count against my vacation hours. I've seen this come up a lot. Anyone ever tackle it? I'm prepared to take unpaid leave but consarnit.
Quote from: damocha on December 23, 2016, 12:51:52 pmQuote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:38:43 amQuote from: damocha on December 23, 2016, 10:31:51 amQuote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:07:18 amThe first time I met my employer, I was in casual business attire (Dress pants, business shirt, and tie. I got told I was too overdressed, to wear the dress pants, but just wear a casual t-shirt instead of the shirt and tie). And yeah, that guy sounds like a dick. I hope they didn't give him a renewal after demanding the contract.As for the bolded part, that is why I have decided to renew (or get an extension on my contract) if I get offered a renewal. I want to stay longer, but not for a full year. One of the people who used to be in my town (who left recently), started in a June, but finished in a September, so it seems like they MAY do extensions, or something like that. She got the flight allowance as well.If I do get moved, and my new places are really bad, I probably will give my notice.When you say "casual t-shirt" I hope to God you mean a button up or Polo and not a literal t-shirt. I completely understand that a suit is overkill. A tie might be a little much especially if you have elementary. Regardless, it's always better to overdress than underdress.Nope, a literal T-shirt. And I wasn't wearing a suit, I was wearing a button up shirt and tie - which they weren't happy with. Whenever I've met them in a literal T-shirt, they have been a lot happier. Which is a shame, I bought a bunch of button up shirts before coming here, thinking I'd have to wear them. But they get angry when I do because "you don't need to dress that formally here."So all the teachers at your school wear t-shirts and dress pants?Some wear jeans. The older male teachers (who are just about to retire) usually wear a suit. The younger male teachers (are all 10~ years younger than them) wear a casual t-shirts with 2 - 3 small buttons near the neck. I don't have any of those style of casual T's though.
Quote from: #basedcowboyshirt on December 23, 2016, 01:06:47 pmQuote from: chupacaubrey on December 23, 2016, 12:48:26 pmFeeling myself about to be screwed. Put in for vacation ages ago. Apparently now it's a problem because the times I was told I could go home early during exams actually count against my vacation hours. I've seen this come up a lot. Anyone ever tackle it? I'm prepared to take unpaid leave but consarnit.Are you public school? If yes, do you use NEIS? If yes, did you or your manager enter your early leaving during exams into NEIS? If yes, what did they enter them as? If you don't use NEIS, did you get it in writing with a VP or principal signature?Did you enter your vacation times into NEIS? Was it approved? If yes, you're fine, don't worry. If no, why didn't they approve it? Or did they just ignnore it. Basically, if it's just a verbal agreement, it's entirely possible that an unreasonable manager or VP or principal can leave you totally boned on vacation. If all your i's are dotted and t's crossed, you're fine and they're likely fussing over nothing.That sounds stress. I hope it works out.Hey thanks. I don't handle NEIS unfortunately, my co-t does. Pretty sure the requested days were ignored (or put off) until now. I'm also trying to ask about my 5 renewal days, as I am essentially forced to take them during winter vacation but there seems to be a lot of confusion around that.So, in the case of leaving early during exams -- I was always told "Oh we can leave early" and the appropriate NEIS form was filled out. But no one seemed to realize that it was counting against my vacation. I would've just stuck around otherwise. I know my VP is an utter pile of trash so I'm not expecting much mercy. However, I'm not re-signing with this school so I'm not too worried, either.
Just found out this awful new coteacher will be here for those awkward couple weeks in February. I'm going to try to not let this hang over my head during break and just enjoy my vacation, but I really thought I wouldn't have to see her again. I might actually start crying.Everybody here dresses very casual, unless it's an open class or something. Even the VP wears jeans quite a bit. One of the younger teachers wears ripped up jeans, and on their PE days the teachers often wear tracksuits.
Quote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 01:06:42 pmQuote from: damocha on December 23, 2016, 12:51:52 pmQuote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:38:43 amQuote from: damocha on December 23, 2016, 10:31:51 amQuote from: Kayos on December 23, 2016, 10:07:18 amThe first time I met my employer, I was in casual business attire (Dress pants, business shirt, and tie. I got told I was too overdressed, to wear the dress pants, but just wear a casual t-shirt instead of the shirt and tie). And yeah, that guy sounds like a dick. I hope they didn't give him a renewal after demanding the contract.As for the bolded part, that is why I have decided to renew (or get an extension on my contract) if I get offered a renewal. I want to stay longer, but not for a full year. One of the people who used to be in my town (who left recently), started in a June, but finished in a September, so it seems like they MAY do extensions, or something like that. She got the flight allowance as well.If I do get moved, and my new places are really bad, I probably will give my notice.When you say "casual t-shirt" I hope to God you mean a button up or Polo and not a literal t-shirt. I completely understand that a suit is overkill. A tie might be a little much especially if you have elementary. Regardless, it's always better to overdress than underdress.Nope, a literal T-shirt. And I wasn't wearing a suit, I was wearing a button up shirt and tie - which they weren't happy with. Whenever I've met them in a literal T-shirt, they have been a lot happier. Which is a shame, I bought a bunch of button up shirts before coming here, thinking I'd have to wear them. But they get angry when I do because "you don't need to dress that formally here."So all the teachers at your school wear t-shirts and dress pants?Some wear jeans. The older male teachers (who are just about to retire) usually wear a suit. The younger male teachers (are all 10~ years younger than them) wear a casual t-shirts with 2 - 3 small buttons near the neck. I don't have any of those style of casual T's though.I've never heard of anyone getting angry because someone dressed up too much. In my opinion, the button ups that you bought is what you should be wearing. I mean, you did buy them for that purpose after all. Even with jeans, a nice button up can look more professional. And if your CT is really adamant about your clothing, it seems to me like he's one of those "casual T's" with the small buttons kind of guy and doesn't want to get outshone by the foreigner.
The accepted dresscode or norm seems to vary heavily from school to school. My previous schools, most everyone dressed casually, men and women, regardless of age. Some might dress it up on certain days, but this was inconsistent and never followed a pattern. They just did it because they felt like doing it sometimes.At my current school, they dress casual to business casual based on personal comfort. Either is treated as acceptable and only three men consistently dress more formally (the P, VP and an older male teacher). The only thing they require is that you're clean and your clothes are well-kept, that's it.Personally, I don't see the point in dressing formally as a teacher. I understand dressing up for formal events and meetings, but, generally speaking, the schools I've interacted with prefer a more relaxed working atmosphere. I have friends who work for schools that mandate business casual/formal attire, though, but most of those are for private institutes that are trying to maintain a certain image for well-to-do parents.
I brought nice-ish clothes and wear almost none of them. I can't dress quite as casually without feeling like I stand out as elementary school teachers, but I don't worry too much about what I wear each day. There are even some teachers at my school who will really blatantly wear the same thing a couple days in a row
Quote from: moonbrie on December 23, 2016, 01:31:51 pmI brought nice-ish clothes and wear almost none of them. I can't dress quite as casually without feeling like I stand out as elementary school teachers, but I don't worry too much about what I wear each day. There are even some teachers at my school who will really blatantly wear the same thing a couple days in a row My main ct does that too and I find it really weird. I haven't noticed anyone else does it but I don't really notice them as much in general.
Sometimes my mind is blown by how stupid the students can be. I just caught a student smoking in class. How can you be that dumb? I may be the foreign teacher and can't really do anything, but I sure as hell can go get another teacher. Their homeroom teacher then came and proceeded to yell at him and he yelled back at her and gave her such attitude it was unbelievable. She then had to go get someone else from the discipline office to get him out of class.
Quote from: HaLo3 on December 23, 2016, 02:13:17 pmSometimes my mind is blown by how stupid the students can be. I just caught a student smoking in class. How can you be that dumb? I may be the foreign teacher and can't really do anything, but I sure as hell can go get another teacher. Their homeroom teacher then came and proceeded to yell at him and he yelled back at her and gave her such attitude it was unbelievable. She then had to go get someone else from the discipline office to get him out of class.Middle or High? That's so dumb The discipline office sounds good, wish i had one of those.
Man I am about ready to give up on this hospital business.I finally got my MRI yesterday, nothing was amiss. After discussing the results with me the neurologist just went on again like "hmmmmm I don't know" and then told me I should go to a university hospital.It's really hard to focus when you constantly feel like your head is spinning and like you're going to vomit. But I don't have that much work to do anymore, and the semester is almost over. Even if I feel sick I can just lump around or take a nap without worrying. But they told me this all needs to get done within a week. So....?????