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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3180 on: December 14, 2016, 01:50:16 pm »
wheresmycoffee has a lot of rants he needs to get out



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3181 on: December 14, 2016, 01:51:40 pm »
wheresmycoffee has a lot of rants he needs to get out

Yeah, I have been having a solidly crap week, but I think he is having a far worse one.....
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3182 on: December 14, 2016, 01:53:00 pm »
wheresmycoffee has a lot of rants he needs to get out

 I wish someone would just give the dude his coffee then maybe he can relax.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3183 on: December 14, 2016, 01:57:45 pm »
wheresmycoffee has a lot of rants he needs to get out



Personally, they're giving me life.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3184 on: December 14, 2016, 01:58:16 pm »
wheresmycoffee has a lot of rants he needs to get out

He's just imparting life lessons onto everyone, whether they want them or not. Gosh, moonbrie, why are you so hostile? :angel:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3185 on: December 14, 2016, 02:10:15 pm »
wheresmycoffee has a lot of rants he needs to get out

He's just imparting life lessons onto everyone, whether they want them or not. Gosh, moonbrie, why are you so hostile? :angel:



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3186 on: December 14, 2016, 02:15:55 pm »
wheresmycoffee has a lot of rants he needs to get out

 I wish someone would just give the dude his coffee then maybe he can relax.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3187 on: December 14, 2016, 02:25:41 pm »
Thank you, wheresmycoffee, for ranting in the ranting thread.

I know it feels good to talk/type your problems.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3188 on: December 14, 2016, 02:32:24 pm »
that being said, not to sound like Pecan, but if you had hoped to go, you should've nagged whoever was appropriate about whether or not you were going for at least a month. There's no way they'd just randomly invite the foreign teacher on an expensive trip like that unless you were really in their faces about it (and maybe not even then, but at least you would've known you weren't going sooner)

Oh I don't blame the school in any way. Not for this one at least. I would have nagged for a month if I had known the date of the trip before the monthly calender was updated to December. I have a calender of school events but only the ones that pertain to me, which ski camp clearly doesn't.

This rant was more just general annoyance at myself for hoping when I should know that I am never going to be invited to events ever by now and my coteacher's attitude about it. Her English isn't perfect but it's good enough to realise that that is not a cool way to respond to that situation. She just doesn't care.

And WheresMyCoffee I know I need to do that but I have tried before and just got a print out of what I was paid, nothing about deductions or what wage was for what. Just you got paid x amount in 6 months. Unfortunately I have to go through my coteacher as none of the admin staff speak a word of English and she isn't the most willing to help.
To clarify the kind of person she is, she counted the trip we took to the bank to set up my bank account, in my first week in the country, as unpaid leave for me... I needed that account to receive my wages, banks don't open on weekends, and I am away from home, in the sticks 8:00-5:30 every day. Apparently no other coteacher in my province has ever logged it as such.
If I am paying that money it's almost worth it to not have to bother with dealing with it... :/


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3189 on: December 14, 2016, 02:38:14 pm »
that being said, not to sound like Pecan, but if you had hoped to go, you should've nagged whoever was appropriate about whether or not you were going for at least a month. There's no way they'd just randomly invite the foreign teacher on an expensive trip like that unless you were really in their faces about it (and maybe not even then, but at least you would've known you weren't going sooner)

Oh I don't blame the school in any way. Not for this one at least. I would have nagged for a month if I had known the date of the trip before the monthly calender was updated to December. I have a calender of school events but only the ones that pertain to me, which ski camp clearly doesn't.

This rant was more just general annoyance at myself for hoping when I should know that I am never going to be invited to events ever by now and my coteacher's attitude about it. Her English isn't perfect but it's good enough to realise that that is not a cool way to respond to that situation. She just doesn't care.

To clarify the kind of person she is, she counted the trip we took to the bank to set up my bank account, in my first week in the country, as unpaid leave for me... I needed that account to receive my wages, banks don't open on weekends, and I am away from home, in the sticks 8:00-5:30 every day. Apparently no other coteacher in my province has ever logged it as such.


Man I don't get a monthly calendar, that's lucky by my standards haha

I think my coteacher logged my bank visit as unpaid leave, but my immigration visit as paid leave... *shrug*


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3190 on: December 14, 2016, 02:40:02 pm »
Take sick days if you aren't renewing.

You can go on neis to see a detailed section on your pay, taxes, and deductions.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3191 on: December 14, 2016, 02:42:20 pm »
that being said, not to sound like Pecan, but if you had hoped to go, you should've nagged whoever was appropriate about whether or not you were going for at least a month. There's no way they'd just randomly invite the foreign teacher on an expensive trip like that unless you were really in their faces about it (and maybe not even then, but at least you would've known you weren't going sooner)

Oh I don't blame the school in any way. Not for this one at least. I would have nagged for a month if I had known the date of the trip before the monthly calender was updated to December. I have a calender of school events but only the ones that pertain to me, which ski camp clearly doesn't.

This rant was more just general annoyance at myself for hoping when I should know that I am never going to be invited to events ever by now and my coteacher's attitude about it. Her English isn't perfect but it's good enough to realise that that is not a cool way to respond to that situation. She just doesn't care.

And WheresMyCoffee I know I need to do that but I have tried before and just got a print out of what I was paid, nothing about deductions or what wage was for what. Just you got paid x amount in 6 months. Unfortunately I have to go through my coteacher as none of the admin staff speak a word of English and she isn't the most willing to help.
To clarify the kind of person she is, she counted the trip we took to the bank to set up my bank account, in my first week in the country, as unpaid leave for me... I needed that account to receive my wages, banks don't open on weekends, and I am away from home, in the sticks 8:00-5:30 every day. Apparently no other coteacher in my province has ever logged it as such.
If I am paying that money it's almost worth it to not have to bother with dealing with it... :/

Rates vary among schools but mine is $50 a month so that would quickly add up to a hefty chunk of change. My school asked me at the beginning if I wanted to pay into it though, so I was made well aware that it was optional.

You should ask the admin office yourself for your monthly pay stubs, even if you just show them the Korean on a written piece of paper. I think it should be " 월급 명세서 주세요" (monthly salary statement, please) according to someone's post from long ago that I had written down.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3192 on: December 14, 2016, 02:46:55 pm »
To clarify the kind of person she is, she counted the trip we took to the bank to set up my bank account, in my first week in the country, as unpaid leave for me... I needed that account to receive my wages, banks don't open on weekends, and I am away from home, in the sticks 8:00-5:30 every day. Apparently no other coteacher in my province has ever logged it as such.
If I am paying that money it's almost worth it to not have to bother with dealing with it... :/

She probably logged it as (외출) 'going out' rather than '무급 휴가' unpaid leave.  I had to take my laptop to the repairers last year and my vice-principal told me to do it as 'going out'.  Only took thirty minutes.  Bit stupid really.  Thing is, you aren't actually deducted money if over the whole year, your 'going out' or 'unpaid leave' adds up to a total day.  So at the end of last year I only had 6.5 hours, but nothing was deducted as it didn't make the full day.

Ooh that's good to know! I'm sure mine won't end up equalling that either


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3193 on: December 14, 2016, 02:56:04 pm »
that being said, not to sound like Pecan, but if you had hoped to go, you should've nagged whoever was appropriate about whether or not you were going for at least a month. There's no way they'd just randomly invite the foreign teacher on an expensive trip like that unless you were really in their faces about it (and maybe not even then, but at least you would've known you weren't going sooner)

Oh I don't blame the school in any way. Not for this one at least. I would have nagged for a month if I had known the date of the trip before the monthly calender was updated to December. I have a calender of school events but only the ones that pertain to me, which ski camp clearly doesn't.

This rant was more just general annoyance at myself for hoping when I should know that I am never going to be invited to events ever by now and my coteacher's attitude about it. Her English isn't perfect but it's good enough to realise that that is not a cool way to respond to that situation. She just doesn't care.

And WheresMyCoffee I know I need to do that but I have tried before and just got a print out of what I was paid, nothing about deductions or what wage was for what. Just you got paid x amount in 6 months. Unfortunately I have to go through my coteacher as none of the admin staff speak a word of English and she isn't the most willing to help.
To clarify the kind of person she is, she counted the trip we took to the bank to set up my bank account, in my first week in the country, as unpaid leave for me... I needed that account to receive my wages, banks don't open on weekends, and I am away from home, in the sticks 8:00-5:30 every day. Apparently no other coteacher in my province has ever logged it as such.
If I am paying that money it's almost worth it to not have to bother with dealing with it... :/

seriousy, ffs.... STAND UP FOR YOUR ****** SELF! Listen to those around you. They are stealing from you, also THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A MONTHLY STATEMENT if you ask for it, not some bullshit paper. I don't know whats worse, people that are willing to be walked over, or actual problems at work due to Korean staff.

No wonder I have only been asked to resign at 1 of my previous schools, because they want a pushover NET that they can take advantage off. Your bank is a business trip, not unpaid leave.

You want to complain about stuff fine. Rant about stuff fine, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY TRY AND DO SOMETHING about it, and it still is a struggle. For the most part, Koreans are the shadiest people ever, they will stab family in the back for money, you NEED to put your foot down.

If you don't know something, don't just roll over, ask people that have experienced it, call the coordinator.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3194 on: December 14, 2016, 03:00:38 pm »
wheresmycoffee: the arbiter of what is and isn't ok to rant about in the ranting thread


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3195 on: December 14, 2016, 03:04:07 pm »
To clarify the kind of person she is, she counted the trip we took to the bank to set up my bank account, in my first week in the country, as unpaid leave for me... I needed that account to receive my wages, banks don't open on weekends, and I am away from home, in the sticks 8:00-5:30 every day. Apparently no other coteacher in my province has ever logged it as such.
If I am paying that money it's almost worth it to not have to bother with dealing with it... :/

She probably logged it as (외출) 'going out' rather than '무급 휴가' unpaid leave.  I had to take my laptop to the repairers last year and my vice-principal told me to do it as 'going out'.  Only took thirty minutes.  Bit stupid really.  Thing is, you aren't actually deducted money if over the whole year, your 'going out' or 'unpaid leave' adds up to a total day.  So at the end of last year I only had 6.5 hours, but nothing was deducted as it didn't make the full day.

Ooh that's good to know! I'm sure mine won't end up equalling that either

That's cool.  As you're paid by the day they can't seriously deduct salary for hours away.  So just keep it under the 7 hour mark (1 hour lunch not included on NEIS).  (외출) 'going out' is if you intend on coming back to school.  They also include (조퇴) 'early leave' if you have no intention on coming back to school.  As my dad came to Korea last year, we had two afternoons (2x3 hours) together, that was done as 'early leave'.  They have all this stuff in the admin, for all the teachers.  They can print off your list and you can check what's been done.  They had put one hospital visit down as 'going out' whereas it should have been a hospital half day.  He changed it, so no harm done.

oh right... thanks for reminding me... haha

I've used up like two vacation days on early leave already

I guess I wasn't thinking about it like that because I never even considered giving up pay as opposed to vacation days


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3196 on: December 14, 2016, 03:09:55 pm »
wheresmycoffee: the arbiter of what is and isn't ok to rant about in the ranting thread

Not telling people what they can and can not post. Just stating it's absolutely ridiculous that a lot of the complaints are for reason directly because the NET was to lazy/passive to get things sorted.

Just because my target in those post were NET's and not directed towards Koreans, doesn't make my "rant" any less valid, or that I am trying to dictate what people can rant about.

"My school is refusing to let me see my pay stub, and won't allow me to stop paying for dinners that I never get invited to," is not the same as, "woe is me, I am losing $50 a month because I am too lazy to figure it out..."

Meanwhile, the school thinks they can just treat every NET like this.


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« Reply #3197 on: December 14, 2016, 03:12:41 pm »
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3198 on: December 14, 2016, 03:13:40 pm »
that being said, not to sound like Pecan, but if you had hoped to go, you should've nagged whoever was appropriate about whether or not you were going for at least a month. There's no way they'd just randomly invite the foreign teacher on an expensive trip like that unless you were really in their faces about it (and maybe not even then, but at least you would've known you weren't going sooner)

Oh I don't blame the school in any way. Not for this one at least. I would have nagged for a month if I had known the date of the trip before the monthly calender was updated to December. I have a calender of school events but only the ones that pertain to me, which ski camp clearly doesn't.

This rant was more just general annoyance at myself for hoping when I should know that I am never going to be invited to events ever by now and my coteacher's attitude about it. Her English isn't perfect but it's good enough to realise that that is not a cool way to respond to that situation. She just doesn't care.

And WheresMyCoffee I know I need to do that but I have tried before and just got a print out of what I was paid, nothing about deductions or what wage was for what. Just you got paid x amount in 6 months. Unfortunately I have to go through my coteacher as none of the admin staff speak a word of English and she isn't the most willing to help.
To clarify the kind of person she is, she counted the trip we took to the bank to set up my bank account, in my first week in the country, as unpaid leave for me... I needed that account to receive my wages, banks don't open on weekends, and I am away from home, in the sticks 8:00-5:30 every day. Apparently no other coteacher in my province has ever logged it as such.
If I am paying that money it's almost worth it to not have to bother with dealing with it... :/

seriousy, ffs.... STAND UP FOR YOUR ****** SELF! Listen to those around you. They are stealing from you, also THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A MONTHLY STATEMENT if you ask for it, not some bullshit paper. I don't know whats worse, people that are willing to be walked over, or actual problems at work due to Korean staff.

No wonder I have only been asked to resign at 1 of my previous schools, because they want a pushover NET that they can take advantage off. Your bank is a business trip, not unpaid leave.

You want to complain about stuff fine. Rant about stuff fine, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY TRY AND DO SOMETHING about it, and it still is a struggle. For the most part, Koreans are the shadiest people ever, they will stab family in the back for money, you NEED to put your foot down.

If you don't know something, don't just roll over, ask people that have experienced it, call the coordinator.

I took this advice and stood up for myself and the last 4 months have been sheer hell while I have been ostracized, told I am useless, and continuously screamed at in Korean..... Oh! and then NOT RENEWED. Because I am the "difficult" foreigner. (They had no problem with the right out of college 20 year old they had before me, who had never had a job before, let alone taught before. So of course me being an older, experienced teacher just does not work for them.)

I wish I had never stood up for myself. So it is a bit of a between a rock and a hard place situation. Remember that not every NET has coordinators and POEs to go to in times such as these. (also any Saffas reading this... POEs as in Provincial Office of Education (plural "s") there is no pun intended there at all.

Sometimes standing up for yourself even if it is just a small thing, can completely destroy your life at a school, so I think every individual situation needs to be weighed up accordingly.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3199 on: December 14, 2016, 03:14:30 pm »
@Chingetti thanks for the help-- turns out English language options were just totally absent though, otherwise it would have worked.

Secretary made some calls and now the computer is in English but now there's no Korean keyboard option... Lol. On my previous computer it was only somewhat in English but enough for me to do whatever I wanted to do, now it's entirely in English and I'm gonna have to find Korean again before the next time I need to use NEIS. Ha. Ha. Ha.

And I'm not hooked up to the color printer anymore. But that's not a pressing concern so that can wait. All this reminds me of the old lady who ate a fly and the subsequent solutions that caused more problems haha

*Edit: Can't even find NEIS now. And the microsoft word & ppt programs are still all in Korean. And here I dared hope that if everything else was in English...

*Edit: Actually, maybe this is just fine. Since my old computer got moved to the English lab I can just do my NEIS business in there when I have to and leave this computer alone for now.

lol

I'm sorry my instructions didn't help at all and that you ended up snowballed.

Similar thing kind of happened to me, my school laptop got destroyed, so the school gave me another used laptop to replace it with, and nothing worked on it at first. When they got one thing working, 2 to 3 other things would stop working. I'm now at a point that mostly everything works with some workarounds, but I have to live with directly connecting my computer to the printer if I need to print anything because the wireless functions are racist and don't want the foreigner to have that kind of convenience. I have to walk it over like the heathen that I am.

I hope you can get everything working the way you need them to. xD