I do not like planning winter or summer camp.
I absolutely hate supervising exams45 minutes of complete boredom torture Most the kids finish the tests within 10/15 minutes then go to sleep for half hour, unbeleivable Jeff.
The tests for English in grade 6 here are 6 multiple choice (in conjunction with listening) and then 4 questions that are write 2) words and 2) sentences. It's insane. And 80% of the writing on the test is in Korean.
Quote from: CO2 on November 14, 2016, 01:24:58 pmThe tests for English in grade 6 here are 6 multiple choice (in conjunction with listening) and then 4 questions that are write 2) words and 2) sentences. It's insane. And 80% of the writing on the test is in Korean.And then in middle school they're 25 multiple choice questions with ridiculously ambiguous answers. My co-workers told me to never discuss test questions with my students after the exam. If my students had any questions about them, I was to send them straight to their Korean teacher who made the questions because my answers were inflammatory...
Quote from: Lurch on November 15, 2016, 09:39:47 amQuote from: CO2 on November 14, 2016, 01:24:58 pmThe tests for English in grade 6 here are 6 multiple choice (in conjunction with listening) and then 4 questions that are write 2) words and 2) sentences. It's insane. And 80% of the writing on the test is in Korean.And then in middle school they're 25 multiple choice questions with ridiculously ambiguous answers. My co-workers told me to never discuss test questions with my students after the exam. If my students had any questions about them, I was to send them straight to their Korean teacher who made the questions because my answers were inflammatory...In all fairness to your co-teacher, this is were some foreigners really drop the ball.If you were not involved with making the test, don't insert yourself later.If you were involved, hopefully there won't be any errors.That said, when a student asks you, simply redirect them to ask the teacher that made the test.Opening you mouth to cause conflict is a bad idea, regardless if you are right or not.
Hindsight being 20/20, do you know understand what you did was wrong?I ask, because it didn't sound like it from you post.It sounded more like you were justifying it, rather than accepting responsibility for making trouble.
I think we're well within our rights to give our opinion, when asked, on a language point. I think it's natural that a student would seek the opinion of a native speaker if they have a question about their exam, regardless of who wrote the questions. If we refuse to give our opinions in these situations then we literally might as well not be here.
Quote from: Pecan on November 15, 2016, 01:09:27 pmHindsight being 20/20, do you know understand what you did was wrong?I ask, because it didn't sound like it from you post.It sounded more like you were justifying it, rather than accepting responsibility for making trouble.He said he didn't know it was a test question, so your earlier complaint didn't apply to that situation. He wasn't trying to meddle or second guessing the KETs, he was just answering a question a student had. He wasn't "inserting himself," and he couldn't have "redirected them to ask the teacher who made the test," because he didn't even know it was from a test.So hindsight being 20/20, do you see now how what you said doesn't apply to him there?
Quote from: Mister Tim on November 15, 2016, 01:39:44 pmQuote from: Pecan on November 15, 2016, 01:09:27 pmHindsight being 20/20, do you know understand what you did was wrong?I ask, because it didn't sound like it from you post.It sounded more like you were justifying it, rather than accepting responsibility for making trouble.He said he didn't know it was a test question, so your earlier complaint didn't apply to that situation. He wasn't trying to meddle or second guessing the KETs, he was just answering a question a student had. He wasn't "inserting himself," and he couldn't have "redirected them to ask the teacher who made the test," because he didn't even know it was from a test.So hindsight being 20/20, do you see now how what you said doesn't apply to him there?Well, you are either simply being ignorant or taking the piss, becauseonly a mouth-breather would think that a student would ever ask you an English exam question for "shits-n-giggles", especially someone who is a known "ringer".That is why, as others have said countless times, when asked a question, you ask "Why?" before sticking your foot in your mouth.
Quote from: Mister Tim on November 15, 2016, 01:39:44 pmQuote from: Pecan on November 15, 2016, 01:09:27 pmHindsight being 20/20, do you know understand what you did was wrong?I ask, because it didn't sound like it from you post.It sounded more like you were justifying it, rather than accepting responsibility for making trouble.He said he didn't know it was a test question, so your earlier complaint didn't apply to that situation. He wasn't trying to meddle or second guessing the KETs, he was just answering a question a student had. He wasn't "inserting himself," and he couldn't have "redirected them to ask the teacher who made the test," because he didn't even know it was from a test.So hindsight being 20/20, do you see now how what you said doesn't apply to him there?Well, you are either simply being ignorant or taking the piss, because only a mouth-breather would think that a student would ever ask you an English exam question for "shits-n-giggles", especially someone who is a known "ringer".That is why, as others have said countless times, when asked a question, you ask "Why?" before sticking your foot in your mouth.
Quote from: Pecan on November 15, 2016, 02:06:35 pmQuote from: Mister Tim on November 15, 2016, 01:39:44 pmQuote from: Pecan on November 15, 2016, 01:09:27 pmHindsight being 20/20, do you know understand what you did was wrong?I ask, because it didn't sound like it from you post.It sounded more like you were justifying it, rather than accepting responsibility for making trouble.He said he didn't know it was a test question, so your earlier complaint didn't apply to that situation. He wasn't trying to meddle or second guessing the KETs, he was just answering a question a student had. He wasn't "inserting himself," and he couldn't have "redirected them to ask the teacher who made the test," because he didn't even know it was from a test.So hindsight being 20/20, do you see now how what you said doesn't apply to him there?Well, you are either simply being ignorant or taking the piss, because only a mouth-breather would think that a student would ever ask you an English exam question for "shits-n-giggles", especially someone who is a known "ringer".That is why, as others have said countless times, when asked a question, you ask "Why?" before sticking your foot in your mouth.I had this happen once. Kid asked me like a week after getting their test back about something during class as I was walking around monitoring an activity. If I asked every kid who asked me a question why they were asking that question I wouldn't have time to teach...