RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

Also, I can hear a coworker snoring on her desk.

Me too.

Lol more respect for a decision someone made while wasted on and drugs than for someone who spent time actually thinking about a mostly permanent decision. Okay.

Because that at least sort of makes sense. If you actually thought about it and still decided to do it, you're even more of an idiot.  You had the chance to think this through under a normal state of mind and still reached a terrible decision.

It's like if you decided to blow 100 bucks betting on the longshot at the track while drunk and having fun with your friends. Okay, I get that. Betting 100 bucks on the longshot while sober because you think it's a good idea? You're a moron. Same for physical stunts or something like that. At least the next day the person will realize what a dumb idea it was. Someone who made that decision sober? That means they truly believe it was the right course of action, which means their judgment is permanently shot.

I respectfully disagree. It's one thing if you simply think it's dumb (that is your opinion and you are entitled to it), but I think it's silly to compare someone soberly spending one's money (regardless of whatever it is being spent on) versus someone who isn't even in a right state of mind to make a decision due to intoxication/drugs. To actually respect the latter's "decision-making" seems strange to me.

People will spend their money on whatever they want. Everyone's opinion will vary on whether that was money well-spent.

Also, I can hear a coworker snoring on her desk.

Me too.

I can hear a goat bleating.

Sometimes getting a tattoo or piercing is an act of reclaiming, celebrating, feeling comfortable with one's body. Maybe it's therapy. Maybe someone with anxiety wants to be brave and do something permanent. Your response to tattoos and piercings just shows your privilege, I'd argue. If you haven't had a complicated relationship with your own body, then of course you wouldn't understand getting tattoos or piercings.

This. This is precisely the nonsense I'm talking about when it comes to tattoos. Someone who is getting a tattoo to "Reclaim" themselves or as therapy is someone who is lying to themselves or otherwise not dealing with reality. They've chosen a tattoo instead of asking themselves hard questions and engaging in difficult solutions.

Ha ha, I'm checking my non tattooed privilege - priceless   

I respectfully disagree. It's one thing if you simply think it's dumb (that is your opinion and you are entitled to it), but I think it's silly to compare someone soberly spending one's money (regardless of whatever it is being spent on) versus someone who isn't even in a right state of mind to make a decision due to intoxication/drugs. To actually respect the latter's "decision-making" seems strange to me.

People will spend their money on whatever they want. Everyone's opinion will vary on whether that was money well-spent.

I'll break it down:

A: I got drunk last night to the casino and bet all the money in my pocket on 20 black. Woke up the next day and realized I was a total idiot
vs.
B: I went to the casino with my friends and bet all the money in my pocket on 20 black. I couldn't believe I lost. At least I got some free orange juice.

A: I was drunk at the bar last night and got in a fight with someone because they stepped on my foot. I was an idiot.
vs.
B: I was at A Twosome Place yesterday afternoon and got in a fight with someone because they stepped on my foot. He deserved it.

A: We were drunk and decided to shoot Roman Candles at each other. We were lucky we didn't seriously hurt each other and we didn't hit anyone in that family of 4 near us.
vs.
B: We were having hotdogs and cokes and decided to shoot Roman Candles at each other. That family of four must have had a good laugh at all of us.

At least the drunkards realize the day after that they made a stupid choice. The sober people are either psychotic or are completely lacking in judgment. At least the drunkards are sort of processing reality and can realize they made bad choices that have negative consequences.

Think I stumbled upon your website DeMartino

There's a lot of ageism going on in this thread. Imagine if someone was making reasonable arguments for why they thought, say going to football matches was a waste of time and everyone kept telling them they only held that opinion because they were a woman.

There's a lot of ageism going on in this thread. Imagine if someone was making reasonable arguments for why they thought, say going to football matches was a waste of time and everyone kept telling them they only held that opinion because they were a woman.

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Seriously though, can no one accept the idea that there might be some poor decision making behind getting tattoo or piercing?

I'd say the ageism on this site often cuts both ways. So I'd say if you're young, get out and befriend an old person today! If you're old, try doing something nice for a millennial today!

There's a lot of ageism going on in this thread. Imagine if someone was making reasonable arguments for why they thought, say going to football matches was a waste of time and everyone kept telling them they only held that opinion because they were a woman.
Seriously though, can no one accept the idea that there might be some poor decision making behind getting tattoo or piercing?

It's just you come across as someone who is dreadfully out of touch and the things you choose to complain about are that of someone in their golden retirement years.

Like I said previously, over 50% of people born post 1980 have a tattoo. So if it does really annoy you I guess you are going to have to get used to it. They really arent a big deal nowadays. I know that you baby boomers get riled up about the younger generations, but let them have this. It's like when you guys were wearing flares in the 60s, I bet your parents found you guys to be annoying idiots too.

Also, I got my first tattoo when I was 18 and I have expereinced exactly zero negative consequences from it. I usually forget it's even there, but if I do look at it I usually have happy memories of when I was a teenager.

You can't really compare it to wearing flares. One in six people regret getting a tattoo and one in ten spend a lot of money and go through a lot of pain getting them removed. Therefore it's something worth thinking and talking about, whatever your age group.

Well I'll share a little saying that we Millennials have: "YOLO"

And if you and Steelrails are tryng to tell me that i'll regret this wicked Squirtle Pokemon tattoo I got during the summer vacation to show how much Pokemon GO changed me, then you are out of your minds.

There's a lot of ageism going on in this thread. Imagine if someone was making reasonable arguments for why they thought, say going to football matches was a waste of time and everyone kept telling them they only held that opinion because they were a woman.

?

Seriously though, can no one accept the idea that there might be some poor decision making behind getting tattoo or piercing?

Some people think that premarital sex is poor decision-making. Some people think that having children under any circumstances is poor decision-making. Only people who agree with you are going to agree with you. People who are happy with their decisions are not going to have their minds changed by you.

@demartino

I can follow your line of thinking, but I feel like drunkards would have already known beforehand that they would most likely make stupid decisions while under the influence. They probably know they're not going to make the best decisions but they go ahead and get drunk anyway. One could just as well argue that they are lacking in judgement.

I don't feel like getting tattoos/piercings vs drunken decision making are comparable things, but that's just my opinion of course. There are even people who soberly get tattoos who regret them later. There are also many people who don't regret their body modification.

And I think someone who would get in a fight over having one's foot stepped on definitely lacks poor judgement and probably has anger issues. But that kind of mental issue isn't representative of all people who get piercings and/or tattoos nor even of all people who get stepped on.

If you think it's stupid, that's fine, but to believe any kind of body modification is caused by mental instability? It's just a matter of preference.

There's a lot of ageism going on in this thread. Imagine if someone was making reasonable arguments for why they thought, say going to football matches was a waste of time and everyone kept telling them they only held that opinion because they were a woman.

?

Seriously though, can no one accept the idea that there might be some poor decision making behind getting tattoo or piercing?

You can say that for pretty much anything, though, which is why a blanket statement like people getting piercings and tattoos are sad "grown adults who [are] still passive-aggressively rebelling against their parents into their late 20s" is an incredibly dumb one. Also, the key word is "might." There "might" have been some poor decision-making, or there "might" not have been. You don't know until you ask so before you do, you "might" be better off holding back on the judgement.

It's persimmon season...

I had never had a persimmon before coming to Korea and I didn't know what they were. A few months into my first year, Emart had a sale of the soft ones, but they were wrapped in the package upside down. I hadn't bought any tomatoes since coming because they seemed so expensive from what I was used to so I bought these, thinking that they were tomatoes. I got them home and started cutting them up to cook with, and even though I thought they seemed really weird, I kept on and made a savory pasta sauce with them. I never got over that and I don't like persimmons now...

Have you tried the frozen ones? They are nice.

I also had never tried persimmons and didn't like their weird stringy jellyness at first. Now I love them.

The soft persimmons I'm okay with but I can barely tolerate the hard persimmons. And I've already been gifted a big bagful. Fortunately I can pawn them off on a friend who actually likes 'em 

I hate persimmons but if I eat them I definitely prefer the hard ones. The soft ones have a gross texture.

don't have tattoos myself. got nothing against them though. been thinking of getting one for years but could never settle on a design i liked. for me it would be more just because i love some of the tattoo artwork, not because of anything meaningful.

that said, i think some people really need to evaluate where they get their tattoos. getting tattoos on your neck that can't be covered by a collar, on your hands/fingers, or places like that, is just not good.

you can rant and rave about how people shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, how it's the 21st century and people should be more progressive and blah blah blah, but at the end of the day everyone needs to exist in society, and there are still some conservative people out there.

if you applied for a job and DeMartino was the one interviewing you and you came in with your neck and hand tattoos you probably wouldn't get hired. as just one example. and then you could say all the things that people have said in this thread but it still wouldn't change the fact that your tattoos have cost you a job, no matter how unfair you think it is.

and i think people really need to choose their artists carefully, and not be afraid to pay good money for it. i've seen the difference between cheap tattoos done by crappy artists and more expensive tattoos done by great artists and they're worlds apart. this thing is going to be on your body for your whole life so it's really not an area to skimp on when it comes to payment.

don't have tattoos myself. got nothing against them though. been thinking of getting one for years but could never settle on a design i liked. for me it would be more just because i love some of the tattoo artwork, not because of anything meaningful.

that said, i think some people really need to evaluate where they get their tattoos. getting tattoos on your neck that can't be covered by a collar, on your hands/fingers, or places like that, is just not good.

you can rant and rave about how people shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, how it's the 21st century and people should be more progressive and blah blah blah, but at the end of the day everyone needs to exist in society, and there are still some conservative people out there.

if you applied for a job and DeMartino was the one interviewing you and you came in with your neck and hand tattoos you probably wouldn't get hired. as just one example. and then you could say all the things that people have said in this thread but it still wouldn't change the fact that your tattoos have cost you a job, no matter how unfair you think it is.

and i think people really need to choose their artists carefully, and not be afraid to pay good money for it. i've seen the difference between cheap tattoos done by crappy artists and more expensive tattoos done by great artists and they're worlds apart. this thing is going to be on your body for your whole life so it's really not an area to skimp on when it comes to payment.

Oh, I definitely agree that people should really give tattoos a lot, seriously a lot, of consideration before getting them and that location should really be taken seriously, and I agree that if you have a tattoo on your face or neck or somewhere really visible, then you should have known what you were getting into before applying for that job, but it's equally fruitless to complain that people get them at all.

Like I said previously, over 50% of people born post 1980 have a tattoo.

It's not the majority; it just seems that way. Still a lot though. Roughly one out of three.

sigh my post got lost in the ether

it was just about how demartino has no idea what having a complicated relationship with your body means lol