Quote from: Life Improvement on October 15, 2016, 05:33:00 amYes, the whole thing must be rigged. Or...Bob Dylan is an amazing lyricist whose writing has benefitted humanity more than the writing of Snoop Dogg. Hmmm, I wonder which it is.The standard for the Nobel Prize in Literature is "benefited humanity more than Snoop Dogg". Right.As far as benefiting humanity, what percentage is that? Billions of people around the world havd never listened or cared about Bob Dylan. Are their lives more empty or meaningless because they haven't appreciated his alleged brilliance? Get over Bob Dylan. He's not as big a deal as you think. And Snoop Dogg is not the right comparison. How about Chuck D. and Public Enemy? I think they better represent the global trend and character than Bob Dylan. Get over yourselves guitar people.
Yes, the whole thing must be rigged. Or...Bob Dylan is an amazing lyricist whose writing has benefitted humanity more than the writing of Snoop Dogg. Hmmm, I wonder which it is.
Drank with a score of Frenchmen last night. I feel like Psy and Snoop the morning after.
Quote from: CO2 on October 15, 2016, 05:09:25 pmDrank with a score of Frenchmen last night. I feel like Psy and Snoop the morning after.It's 6 in the evening, bruh~
Quote from: donovan on October 15, 2016, 05:18:51 pmQuote from: CO2 on October 15, 2016, 05:09:25 pmDrank with a score of Frenchmen last night. I feel like Psy and Snoop the morning after.It's 6 in the evening, bruh~I woke up at 4 and immediately sought sundaeguk. hahaha
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 15, 2016, 08:38:33 amQuote from: Life Improvement on October 15, 2016, 05:33:00 amYes, the whole thing must be rigged. Or...Bob Dylan is an amazing lyricist whose writing has benefitted humanity more than the writing of Snoop Dogg. Hmmm, I wonder which it is.The standard for the Nobel Prize in Literature is "benefited humanity more than Snoop Dogg". Right.As far as benefiting humanity, what percentage is that? Billions of people around the world havd never listened or cared about Bob Dylan. Are their lives more empty or meaningless because they haven't appreciated his alleged brilliance? Get over Bob Dylan. He's not as big a deal as you think. And Snoop Dogg is not the right comparison. How about Chuck D. and Public Enemy? I think they better represent the global trend and character than Bob Dylan. Get over yourselves guitar people.Bob Dylan is probably the most influential musician of the modern era. he has had a 50+ year career, and is still putting out music. his last album reached no.7 in the US chart, and no.5 in the UK. Who doesn't listen to his music, is less important, than those who do. Gordon Ramsey has 3 michelin stars, and is considerred a culinary genius, and most people respect the accolades despite having nnever, or will never sample his food. Dylan had his finger on the pulse throughout the 1960's, not just documenting, buut influencing the attitudes of the times, "The times they are a changing"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times_They_Are_a-Changin%27_(album)says it all about the social attituudes of the time.He also managed to portray people at their best, he writes women as people, regardless of how he feels about themhttp://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/justlikeawoman.htmlNo bitches or ho's in Dylan's songs.As for influence: remember this from love actually:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7u6bMBlCXwDylan created it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY4HtQ-XJQEhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subterranean_Homesick_BluesAs for literature, his writing has at times been nothing short of magnificent:Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mindDown the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leavesThe haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beachFar from the twisted reach of crazy sorrowYes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving freeSilhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sandsWith all memory and fate driven deep beneath the wavesLet me forget about today until tomorrow.The oly question regarding Dylan's prize, is why did it take so long?
Quote from: sligo on October 15, 2016, 11:43:28 amQuote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 15, 2016, 08:38:33 amQuote from: Life Improvement on October 15, 2016, 05:33:00 amYes, the whole thing must be rigged. Or...Bob Dylan is an amazing lyricist whose writing has benefitted humanity more than the writing of Snoop Dogg. Hmmm, I wonder which it is.The standard for the Nobel Prize in Literature is "benefited humanity more than Snoop Dogg". Right.As far as benefiting humanity, what percentage is that? Billions of people around the world havd never listened or cared about Bob Dylan. Are their lives more empty or meaningless because they haven't appreciated his alleged brilliance? Get over Bob Dylan. He's not as big a deal as you think. And Snoop Dogg is not the right comparison. How about Chuck D. and Public Enemy? I think they better represent the global trend and character than Bob Dylan. Get over yourselves guitar people.Bob Dylan is probably the most influential musician of the modern era. he has had a 50+ year career, and is still putting out music. his last album reached no.7 in the US chart, and no.5 in the UK. Who doesn't listen to his music, is less important, than those who do. Gordon Ramsey has 3 michelin stars, and is considerred a culinary genius, and most people respect the accolades despite having nnever, or will never sample his food. Dylan had his finger on the pulse throughout the 1960's, not just documenting, buut influencing the attitudes of the times, "The times they are a changing"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times_They_Are_a-Changin%27_(album)says it all about the social attituudes of the time.He also managed to portray people at their best, he writes women as people, regardless of how he feels about themhttp://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/justlikeawoman.htmlNo bitches or ho's in Dylan's songs.As for influence: remember this from love actually:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7u6bMBlCXwDylan created it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY4HtQ-XJQEhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subterranean_Homesick_BluesAs for literature, his writing has at times been nothing short of magnificent:Then take me disappearin' through the smoke rings of my mindDown the foggy ruins of time, far past the frozen leavesThe haunted, frightened trees, out to the windy beachFar from the twisted reach of crazy sorrowYes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving freeSilhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sandsWith all memory and fate driven deep beneath the wavesLet me forget about today until tomorrow.The oly question regarding Dylan's prize, is why did it take so long?Overrated clap clap clapclapclap. And a big meh to those lyrics. They're not as brilliant as you think they are.Who doesn't listen to his music is less important than those who do=people of the world and minorities are less important than Europeans and North Americans of European descent.WOW! You inferred that? Many European and north American people don't like Dylan, that doesn't matter, the point was, his songs have influence people of power of all antionalities. If you're going to give a Nobel to a musician for what they "contribute to the world", it really should be a musician loved by ALL the world.In a world of manufactured pop, the only acts that are "loved by ALL the world" are plastic images the media wants the world to embrace, shall we give an award to Justin Bieber, or Rhianna?I'll just leave this here:http://app.yonhapnews.co.kr/YNA/Basic/ForeignGallery/view.aspx?lang=EN&contents_id=PYH20161014151100341Lastly, Bob Dylan did not represent or capture the spirit of the 60s. He captured the spirit of the 60s for white people.As these "white people" had the power, this is where the change could happen. These are the ears that needed to listen in oorder to affect change. Speaking to those without power may stir up revolt, but it is those wioth the power who affect the changes. For black people in the 60s, the people who you know were going through everything white people were going through AND dealing with Jim Crow, their soundtrack is a lot different than yours.Barring the fact that i wasn't born until much later, this is the first thing you have said that makes the slightest bit of sense. No 2 people in any walk of life can have the same experiences or takes on events they share. Everyone has a different soundtrack to their lives, just some songs sing louder and to more people. Yes, he was a voice for Civil Rights and helped change white people's minds, but white people changing their minds is not the center of the Civil Rights story.Maybe not, but as i said before, as the white people have the power, and the power to make the changes that are wanted, surely the "changing of the guards" is right at the centre of the Civil Rights' story, this is the whole point of it, to make white people change their minds The center is black people protesting and asserting themselves. And while Dylan the man was appreciated, his music was not loved.Not loved by who?Music does not start and stop with rock and Bob Dylan.I couldn't agree more, but it is where it is today partly because of him
He captured the spirit of the 60s for white people.
Is it that hard to accept that a man who has been (successfully) writing songs for over 50 years has been given an award recognising his talents?Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouthBlowing down the backroads heading southIdiot wind blowing every time you move your teethYou're an idiot babeIt's a wonder that you still know how to breathe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZWv5U5wJ4
Dylan winning the Nobel for literature is dumb. This is coming from someone who's paid money to go to a Dylan concert, owns multiple Dylan LPs and really enjoys his music.Why's it dumb? Because he is not a brilliant poet or lyricist. A very good one, yes, but certainly not what should be considered world-class literature. Among all the authors and poets who are currently creating contemporary, dynamic-changing literature, there are countless better candidates to receive an award like this in 2016.That's my statement on the Nobel biz.Second, everyone who says disparaging things about popular current artists such as Snoop, Rihanna, or Bieber, and the whole "Baw pop music is just manufactured for the sheep of today bawwwww it's not even real they don't even write their own songs or sing without autotune bawwww", get over yourselves. Just because because something is popular doesn't mean it's without artistic merit, or that it's not entertaining and good. In a competition who is more deserving of a Nobel for Literature, Justin Bieber, or Bobby Dylan, obviously Dylan would be the more deserving of the prize, because yes, his work is more literary. But when you're talking about which artist is more deserving of getting play on the radio or on the personal listening devices of the masses, they're both equally deserving.
