RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

I always went to my gym after work. There were a lot of ahjeosshis, but they basically all left me alone. A lot of them would look at me because the females never really did much but walk on the treadmill, bot otherwise, I just had one guy (who ended up being the owner) show me how to use a machine more appropriately- according to him.

Yeah, I've been told similar things about the other gyms around here by other ladies, and they never really have too many problems, but there's just something about the guys at my gym that aren't as harmless.

I don't know if it has to do with the area or the community or whatever, but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I don't have this problem in the morning because there aren't as many of these types of guys around then and the ahjummas keep those few who are in line.

...but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I am livid just reading this. And of course I'm sure you're the wanton foreigner-whore who is reveling in their attention. Fuuuuuuck these men.

...but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I am livid just reading this. And of course I'm sure you're the wanton foreigner-whore who is reveling in their attention. Fuuuuuuck these men.

Right? I just want my own posse of ahjummas. I don't think that's too much to ask.

...but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I am livid just reading this. And of course I'm sure you're the wanton foreigner-whore who is reveling in their attention. Fuuuuuuck these men.

That's what they want.  :)

i never understood the need to have two teachers in the same classroom

I kinda see it as more if an assiastant type thing. Idk about the US but in the U.K. It's common in primary school to have a teaching assistant (the school I worked at in the uk had pm one assistant per class for lower years and then one or two assistants per unit in upper juniors). One teacher can't meet the needs of 30 kids and at early years it's important to meet their needs as much as possible. English is a subject with huge disparity in levels, one foreign teacher is not going to be able to meet the needs of 30 kids who range from barely knowing the alphabet to being able to have conversations, considering we teach 100% in English and often don't have enough Korean to explain stuff to the lower level students. In my classes I view my Korean teacher as a teaching assistant type role, there to help lower level students.

The problem with this is that the Korean teacher doesn't always take the innitiative to assist lower level students, and the way classes are set up and typically run (and the fact we teach 20-22 different classes of around 30 students once a week for 40 minutes with no system of tracking students' progress or weaknesses) it's hard to run differentiated tasks, so you can't ask the KT to work with the lower level students because you will have a handful in the class sat at opposite sides of the classroom.
Alternatively we can take an assistant role, if your KT prefers to be leading the class (lol)

Yea I agree with this.

In fact, I'm stunned by the amount of people here who apparently teach without a CT even in the room. 

I don't mean classroom management, I mean how do you actually teach the material without any translation?  Do elementary and middle school textbooks have Korean in them or are they written completely in English?

The students really suffer in these cases and it's due to my coteachers' laziness.

Does anyone elses school just take money out of your Bank without asking?

I got asked to go on a school trip next week, which I said yes to. I wasn't told I had to pay for myself. They took 55,000 won, without even asking me or telling me. It's not a lot. No big deal. But surely if you ask someone if they want to go on the trip you would mention 'oh btw you need to pay x amount' not just take it from my account?

Don't know how comfortable I am with that to be honest, that they can just access my money like that.

Two accounts. One for pay and then transfer it over.

I wouldn't want our children (if we had any) to ever be alone with some of the folks brought over here to "teach".  It's frightening.

because having your child alone with a korean teacher who frequents room salons, gets blasted on soju every night, never comes prepared for class because they're 'SO BUSY', and might well end up sexually assaulting your child (i think everyone is aware of the preference a vast number of korean men have for children) is a much more appealing prospect?

Hold up!

Koby, don't get it twisted.  There is NEVER a time when any student should be ALONE with any "teacher" or teacher.

That is covered in great detail when completing one's teacher certification.

Door open.  Have a colleague or another student in the room, etc.  One needs to protect themselves from any perceived impropriety.

When I have my after school class, and only one student shows up, we do the class in the teachers' office, where other teachers are.

Got it?

BTW, I totally agree with your comments about Korean teachers.

...but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I am livid just reading this. And of course I'm sure you're the wanton foreigner-whore who is reveling in their attention. Fuuuuuuck these men.

That's what they want.  :)

You're right.

They can go f*ck themselves. Works better for everyone.

...but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I am livid just reading this. And of course I'm sure you're the wanton foreigner-whore who is reveling in their attention. Fuuuuuuck these men.

Right? I just want my own posse of ahjummas. I don't think that's too much to ask.

maybe check if there's a "women's only" gym near where you are. seems to be a few of these these days. probably due to the situation you described.

...but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I am livid just reading this. And of course I'm sure you're the wanton foreigner-whore who is reveling in their attention. Fuuuuuuck these men.

That's miserable. Guys are gross.

When I used to go to the gym regularly, which was a poor, community health center gym full of olds, they had a separate floor for women and men. Of course, the women's floor only had hula hoops and tread mills, while all the free weights and machines were in the men's section.

Still, creeping on someone when they're trying to work out is so uncool.

Speaking of the gym, I used to go three to four times every week for about 3 years in a row.

Then I started working at a school where I was worked to exhaustion every day and haven't been to the gym in about two and a half years. And now I'm fat. It sucks. Starting again is so hard.

Wow, that really is super gross. Have you tried later at night instead of right after school? I feel like more younger people would be there and therefore maybe less problems.

@basedcowboyshirt- It really is. I had to have 3 shoulder surgeries at the end of last year and the beginning half of this year and had to stop going to the gym because of it. Now I'm all cleared for working out, but starting back into the practice is so dang hard. That combined with the fact that I don't pay for the gym anymore since I can use my school gym really takes away motivation.

...but these guys hover around me, try to "sneak" peeks down my shirt or at my crotch (I had to drape a towel across my lap because of this), a few try to chat me up and it's pretty damn clear that they're bothering me but they never take the hint, and it's all just super weird and annoying. The owner notices but doesn't say anything.

I am livid just reading this. And of course I'm sure you're the wanton foreigner-whore who is reveling in their attention. Fuuuuuuck these men.

That's miserable. Guys are gross.

When I used to go to the gym regularly, which was a poor, community health center gym full of olds, they had a separate floor for women and men. Of course, the women's floor only had hula hoops and tread mills, while all the free weights and machines were in the men's section.

Still, creeping on someone when they're trying to work out is so uncool.

Speaking of the gym, I used to go three to four times every week for about 3 years in a row.

Then I started working at a school where I was worked to exhaustion every day and haven't been to the gym in about two and a half years. And now I'm fat. It sucks. Starting again is so hard.

I've never worked out. I was just naturally skinny. And then a couple years ago I started getting "womanly", but now I'm just getting fat. Starting for the first time is also freaking hard.

Talking about gyms ...

I don't know about anybody elses gym but in mine the Koreans do f**k all! Literally walk on the treadmill slower than you would walk normally? Lift weights that literally take no effort what so ever. I'm not sure what most of them think they are achieving from their workouts. Most of their time is spent flicking between channels on the tele. I see some ridiculous stuff, like playing games on their phones in between sets. Seriously can you just not play the game for an hour or so haha!

Saying that though, the older generation here seme a lot more active than the one back home in U.K. most people hit 55 and thats it become a cabbage. Here, I see them out hiking, walking (sometimes backwards, I thought I was seeing life in rewind when I first saw this), stretching and there are a lot more public exercise equipment in parks etc than back home. Although I fail to see the point of a lot of the machines you see, kind of just swing your body around  haha but I suppose it's something!

Perhaps you need to look in the mirror.

Not sure why you take issue with my post.

Not everyone here knows how to be professional or understands what is appropriate behavior inside and outside of the classroom.

Some are better, some are worse, either way, I have seen my share of "crazy" here since '95.

You are probably too young or too new, but they used to hire folks with fake degrees, criminal records, and substance abuse problems when the demand for EFL was at its peak.

Again, I didn't say "all" or "most", I said "some", OK?

BTW, I'm not Korean, so I rarely look in the mirror.

I wouldn't want our children (if we had any) to ever be alone with some of the folks brought over here to "teach".  It's frightening.

because having your child alone with a korean teacher who frequents room salons, gets blasted on soju every night, never comes prepared for class because they're 'SO BUSY', and might well end up sexually assaulting your child (i think everyone is aware of the preference a vast number of korean men have for children) is a much more appealing prospect?

Hold up!

Koby, don't get it twisted.  There is NEVER a time when any student should be ALONE with any "teacher" or teacher.

That is covered in great detail when completing one's teacher certification.

Door open.  Have a colleague or another student in the room, etc.  One needs to protect themselves from any perceived impropriety.

When I have my after school class, and only one student shows up, we do the class in the teachers' office, where other teachers are.

Got it?

BTW, I totally agree with your comments about Korean teachers.

Are you joking?

Do the other teachers look at you like you're mental when you're having your class in the middle of their office?

Do they take it out of your salary each month or take it out of your actual bank account?

I suppose they could have helped you to set up a direct debit for school lunches but how could they have taken money for the school trip directly from your bank account?  A bit worrying 

Mine does the same thing, but it's usually like 10,000 so I don't worry about it, but come to think of it, yeah how is that possible?  They also occasionally give me odd sums of money and I have no idea why.

Arm,

I'm NOT joking.

These are students who don't know phonics/the alphabet/etc., so the group is really small, like four or five.  However, sometimes only one student shows up.

When that happens we have our lesson in the office at the conference table.

By your response, it's obvious you have never had any formal training, because if you had, you would know that even a false accusation can destroy one's career and life.  Therefore, it is always best to err on the side of caution.

I suppose I should parrot your question back to you, "Are you mental?"

I wouldn't want our children (if we had any) to ever be alone with some of the folks brought over here to "teach".  It's frightening.

because having your child alone with a korean teacher who frequents room salons, gets blasted on soju every night, never comes prepared for class because they're 'SO BUSY', and might well end up sexually assaulting your child (i think everyone is aware of the preference a vast number of korean men have for children) is a much more appealing prospect?

Hold up!

Koby, don't get it twisted.  There is NEVER a time when any student should be ALONE with any "teacher" or teacher.

That is covered in great detail when completing one's teacher certification.

Door open.  Have a colleague or another student in the room, etc.  One needs to protect themselves from any perceived impropriety.

When I have my after school class, and only one student shows up, we do the class in the teachers' office, where other teachers are.

Got it?

BTW, I totally agree with your comments about Korean teachers.

Are you joking?

Do the other teachers look at you like you're mental when you're having your class in the middle of their office?

Probably not, because they wouldn't want him to be alone with the kid. It's common knowledge for Korean teachers as well, that you should not be alone with the kids.

Yeah, they do have a couple of women's only gyms around here, but they're really out of the way for me and don't have all of the types of machines I like to use.

I have thought about checking the gym later at night but was kind of afraid that's when all of the meatheads would be there hogging all of the machines and aggressively staring me down to move on when I've only just gotten started on my first set. xD I know this gym has them, but they don't appear to come in the morning or in the early evening.

I won't know until I give it a go throughout the week, though. I'm just going to have to experiment.

@ everything else: Yeah, it's frustrating having to start from the ground up, especially if you know what you used to be capable of.

This is a site for "teachers", yet some think it's appropriate to be alone with a student...

I sure hope you are trolls and not being sincere.

Arm,

I'm NOT joking.

These are students who don't know phonics/the alphabet/etc., so the group is really small, like four or five.  However, sometimes only one student shows up.

When that happens we have our lesson in the office at the conference table.

By your response, it's obvious you have never had any formal training, because if you had, you would know that even a false accusation can destroy one's career and life.  Therefore, it is always best to err on the side of caution.

I suppose I should parrot your question back to you, "Are you mental?"

Probably not, because they wouldn't want him to be alone with the kid. It's common knowledge for Korean teachers as well, that you should not be alone with the kids.

This is a site for "teachers", yet some think it's appropriate to be alone with a student...

I sure hope you are trolls and not being sincere.

I regularly have to teach a one on one class without a CT at school and I've never thought twice about it.

Should I march into the principal's office and ask him to put a stop to this madness