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  • Rye
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13820 on: June 13, 2022, 10:59:26 am »
That's no good Van. I hope it all pans out.
I had an EKG as part of the National Health Service check-up about 5 years ago...not since, so it does happen. My wife and I are the same age (61) but she has never had one. Go figure. I'm up for another full body intrusion before the end of the year, so I'll see if it happens again.


  • hangook77
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13821 on: June 13, 2022, 11:25:38 am »
That's no good Van. I hope it all pans out.
I had an EKG as part of the National Health Service check-up about 5 years ago...not since, so it does happen. My wife and I are the same age (61) but she has never had one. Go figure. I'm up for another full body intrusion before the end of the year, so I'll see if it happens again.

Endoscopy and or colonoscopy?  I had to get the endoscopy for the first time being over 40.  I got the buttscopy at the same time.  I told them to put me out anesthetic cause something jammed down your throat is no fun awake.  Had to pay extra for that.  Woke up with the camera up my butt and inside me.  (that was weird.)  Anyhew, seeing my insides on camera and a couple of pollups removed.  they tested and confirmed non cancerous.  I think it is just recommended as part of the health check?  I have to do another one this year health check, but I am not doing the endoscopy and buttscopy again. 

Funny and lame thing about that is that in Canada you'd have to wait neigh to 2 years to get that done.  Go to doctor, then to specialist, then to hospital appointment.  Plus they don't even give you anesthetic .  Went to a private hospital here on a Tuesday, I went in on the following Saturday and got 'er done.  My cost was 200 bucks.  My US relatives told me that it would cost a few grand there.  Insane!  Both the US and Canada are nuts different reasons.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2022, 11:28:34 am by hangook77 »
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  • Rye
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13822 on: June 13, 2022, 11:33:37 am »
Endoscopy and or colonoscopy?

Full service this time around. I also pay a little extra to get knocked out. The colonoscopy part is no so bad...a little uncomfortable, but the endoscopy, I just can't do awake.


  • hangook77
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13823 on: June 13, 2022, 11:41:15 am »
Full service this time around. I also pay a little extra to get knocked out. The colonoscopy part is no so bad...a little uncomfortable, but the endoscopy, I just can't do awake.

Yeah, that's why my first time when I did both together, I got them to knock me out.  The colonoscopy, I had to get up at 4 AM and drink something every 15 minutes for an hour.  Spent the next two hours flushing things out.  Got there and got a loosening up shot in my left buttocks.  it wasn't so bad.  Supposedly I wasn't suppose to eat but I did later that day after the procedure.  No problems. 
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13824 on: June 13, 2022, 11:44:00 am »
Apparently - if you don't do the endoscopy and colonoscopy when you are scheduled for it, if you later come down with a problem that would have been picked up during the procedure, you will not be covered by medical insurance (in Korea) for any treatment you might then require.  So opting out is not that good an idea. 

Just letting you know.  At least that used to be the case (and probably still is).


  • Kyndo
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13825 on: June 13, 2022, 11:45:32 am »
Funny and lame thing about that is that in Canada you'd have to wait neigh to 2 years to get that done.  Go to doctor, then to specialist, then to hospital appointment.  Plus they don't even give you anesthetic .  Went to a private hospital here on a Tuesday, I went in on the following Saturday and got 'er done.  My cost was 200 bucks.  My US relatives told me that it would cost a few grand there.  Insane!  Both the US and Canada are nuts different reasons.
According to compiled surveys of patients and physicians, average wait time for a colonoscopy in Canada is a bit over 8 weeks, not 2 years.
Of course, this is an *average*: "wait times vary considerably across Canada, with many waiting twice as long as recommended (60 days), ranging from 104 to 151 days."
https://www.thesenior.com.au/story/6291029/bottom-line-on-colonoscopy-wait-times/

Anyway, Korea does get a lot of things right, and one of them is the medical system.
According to some metrics, Korea consistently ranks in the top 5 medical systems of the world.

I can personally vouch that while it is a bit "rough and ready" (ie a bit uncomfortable at times), Korea gets stuff done quickly, effectively, and relatively cheap even for life-threatening conditions.


  • Augustiner
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13826 on: June 13, 2022, 11:48:23 am »
Full service this time around. I also pay a little extra to get knocked out. The colonoscopy part is no so bad...a little uncomfortable, but the endoscopy, I just can't do awake.

I had mine done last year, but not the endoscopy.  They always tell I'm entitled to that but never force it on me.  I wanted the colonoscopy and prostate checked because of family history issues.  The local hospital assigned a translator to go around with me.  It was kind of funny.  She was a younger Korean woman.  English was pretty good.  When I came back for the scheduled test I was saying I was hungry because I hadn't eaten.  She asked why.  I said because they're going to shove a camera up my butt.  She was adamant they wouldn't do that.  So she walked into the room with me and the guy told her something in Korean, and she paused and said "Oh, yeah,  they are going to shove a camera up your butt."  I guess she figured my expression was the correct English jargon.  Probably uses it with other foreigners up to this day. 

That's scary Van, but you're pretty much a teetotaler and eat well.  Is it regular exercise you've been skipping out on?  I think an EKG is probably a good idea at a certain age.  Something I should do. 


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13827 on: June 13, 2022, 12:18:37 pm »
Whenever I get a colonoscopy, I just pretend it's Jake Gyllenhaal.

Makes it much easier.


  • Rye
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13828 on: June 13, 2022, 12:28:46 pm »
Apparently - if you don't do the endoscopy and colonoscopy when you are scheduled for it, if you later come down with a problem that would have been picked up during the procedure, you will not be covered by medical insurance (in Korea) for any treatment you might then require.  So opting out is not that good an idea. 

Just letting you know.  At least that used to be the case (and probably still is).

Still the same Jennifer. If you don't go and then you get cancer or another ailment, you are not covered. Agreed, you must go and get checked out...no options.


  • hangook77
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13829 on: June 13, 2022, 12:43:54 pm »
Still the same Jennifer. If you don't go and then you get cancer or another ailment, you are not covered. Agreed, you must go and get checked out...no options.

I have been told the endoscopy check was voluntary but other checks every two years were mandatory.  I did have one done already before.  I will do again in two years if I am still here.
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  • D.L.Orean
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13830 on: June 13, 2022, 12:46:52 pm »
"I put quite a few pics online and got rated anywhere from 8.2 to 9.6 by lots of chicks. Of course, I can't claim to have the same looks now though Koreans are always saying "handsome" - hangook77


  • Kayos
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13831 on: June 13, 2022, 12:47:01 pm »
According to compiled surveys of patients and physicians, average wait time for a colonoscopy in Canada is a bit over 8 weeks, not 2 years.
Of course, this is an *average*: "wait times vary considerably across Canada, with many waiting twice as long as recommended (60 days), ranging from 104 to 151 days."
https://www.thesenior.com.au/story/6291029/bottom-line-on-colonoscopy-wait-times/

Anyway, Korea does get a lot of things right, and one of them is the medical system.
According to some metrics, Korea consistently ranks in the top 5 medical systems of the world.

I can personally vouch that while it is a bit "rough and ready" (ie a bit uncomfortable at times), Korea gets stuff done quickly, effectively, and relatively cheap even for life-threatening conditions.

The payment stuff for Korea is great, but my experience with hospitals here haven't been the greatest.
I had a heart-attack like event 2 years ago, symptoms of one, without having one. got rushed to the hospital, done tests, and they showed that I was completely healthy.
Got a referral to a big university hospital in Seoul to get better tests and stuff. The doctor didn't believe the doctor I saw and thought I was faking, took going 4 times for them to think, maybe there is a problem. To my insomnia part of my health issues, I was told "Just sleep better." and all the things the doctor suggested, I was already doing. 2.5 years later, my problem is still ongoing, not as bad as the worst parts of it, but it's enough that it's effecting my ability to lesson prep and stuff, doctors haven't been able to figure out my issue, and when I make a suggestion on what it could be (not that I'm a doctor, and would know what it is, it just seems like a logical conclusion based on my situation - basically to do with mold), they won't even humor it, I just get a "it's not that."

The reason I'm heading to NZ this summer is literally to get seen by doctors there, as they tend to take mold stuff more seriously than here, even if I'm wrong, I feel like I'll be listened to more back in NZ


  • hangook77
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13832 on: June 13, 2022, 12:49:38 pm »
According to compiled surveys of patients and physicians, average wait time for a colonoscopy in Canada is a bit over 8 weeks, not 2 years.
Of course, this is an *average*: "wait times vary considerably across Canada, with many waiting twice as long as recommended (60 days), ranging from 104 to 151 days."
https://www.thesenior.com.au/story/6291029/bottom-line-on-colonoscopy-wait-times/

Anyway, Korea does get a lot of things right, and one of them is the medical system.
According to some metrics, Korea consistently ranks in the top 5 medical systems of the world.

I can personally vouch that while it is a bit "rough and ready" (ie a bit uncomfortable at times), Korea gets stuff done quickly, effectively, and relatively cheap even for life-threatening conditions.

From the specialist?  Not necessarily.  First you have to wait a while to get in to see your doctor, then  you have to wait awhile to get into the specialist, then you have to wait awhile to get into the local hospital to get it done.  So, it can be almost a year and a half to 2 years in total, with all the steps factored in.  I wanted to get one, I went to the special hospital on a tuesday and within a few days had it done here.  Much quicker here. 

As for Canada, one girl I know told me this was her experience.  Also, there was no anesthetic offered.  Had to do it awake gagging.  Very awkward. 
Trolls on here are lame and need to get a life.


  • hangook77
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13833 on: June 13, 2022, 12:52:43 pm »
The payment stuff for Korea is great, but my experience with hospitals here haven't been the greatest.
I had a heart-attack like event 2 years ago, symptoms of one, without having one. got rushed to the hospital, done tests, and they showed that I was completely healthy.
Got a referral to a big university hospital in Seoul to get better tests and stuff. The doctor didn't believe the doctor I saw and thought I was faking, took going 4 times for them to think, maybe there is a problem. To my insomnia part of my health issues, I was told "Just sleep better." and all the things the doctor suggested, I was already doing. 2.5 years later, my problem is still ongoing, not as bad as the worst parts of it, but it's enough that it's effecting my ability to lesson prep and stuff, doctors haven't been able to figure out my issue, and when I make a suggestion on what it could be (not that I'm a doctor, and would know what it is, it just seems like a logical conclusion based on my situation - basically to do with mold), they won't even humor it, I just get a "it's not that."

The reason I'm heading to NZ this summer is literally to get seen by doctors there, as they tend to take mold stuff more seriously than here, even if I'm wrong, I feel like I'll be listened to more back in NZ


Korea is run that way where some folks want to avoid doing any work or anything difficult. 
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  • Augustiner
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13834 on: June 13, 2022, 01:05:59 pm »
From the specialist?  Not necessarily.  First you have to wait a while to get in to see your doctor, then  you have to wait awhile to get into the specialist, then you have to wait awhile to get into the local hospital to get it done.  So, it can be almost a year and a half to 2 years in total, with all the steps factored in.  I wanted to get one, I went to the special hospital on a tuesday and within a few days had it done here.  Much quicker here. 

As for Canada, one girl I know told me this was her experience.  Also, there was no anesthetic offered.  Had to do it awake gagging.  Very awkward.

Canada is a pretty big country.  My brother decided to do the prostate thing I did and went in and had it within the week.  Where you live can make a huge difference. 


  • Kyndo
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13835 on: June 13, 2022, 01:07:04 pm »
From the specialist?  Not necessarily.  First you have to wait a while to get in to see your doctor, then  you have to wait awhile to get into the specialist, then you have to wait awhile to get into the local hospital to get it done.  So, it can be almost a year and a half to 2 years in total, with all the steps factored in.  I wanted to get one, I went to the special hospital on a tuesday and within a few days had it done here.  Much quicker here. 

The average wait time is calculated from a positive fecal test,  which, apparently a GP at a walk-in clinic can do. This time includes the referral to a specialist.

According to the national average data, after getting a referral from one's GP, it takes about 60 days to get a colonoscopy.
It varies from province to province, with Newfoundland (surprisingly, being the fastest (with an average of only 33 days)

Rereading my post, I noticed that I cited the wrong link (which directs to Australian wait-times lol). This was the link I meant to include:
https://www.partnershipagainstcancer.ca/topics/colorectal-indicators-2017-2018/indicators/wait-times/

Canada is a pretty big country.  My brother decided to do the prostate thing I did and went in and had it within the week.  Where you live can make a huge difference. 
Totally. Province by province, it makes a huge difference. Average wait time in Newfoundland is 33 days. Average time in Nova Scotia is 86 days. In the Yukon, it takes almost 100 days.
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  • Rye
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13836 on: June 13, 2022, 01:10:43 pm »
I was told "Just sleep better."


Don't you just love that!
Geez, sorry about your troubles Kayos.


Doctor: "Kurt you must lose some weight."
Me: "Okay, what's the best way to tackle it."
Doctor: "Eat less"
Me: Yes, but could you give me some tips."
Doctor: A smaller plate and exercise".
Me: "Sigh, ok."

I never asked again. I figured it out myself.


  • Kayos
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13837 on: June 13, 2022, 01:26:13 pm »
Don't you just love that!
Geez, sorry about your troubles Kayos.


Doctor: "Kurt you must lose some weight."
Me: "Okay, what's the best way to tackle it."
Doctor: "Eat less"
Me: Yes, but could you give me some tips."
Doctor: A smaller plate and exercise".
Me: "Sigh, ok."

I never asked again. I figured it out myself.

Yeah, it was really unprofessional. Luckily, a Korean friend of mine got insomnia, and recommended a sleep clinic where the doctors are Korean, but studied at Harvard. They speak English really well, and after 2 nights of sleep studies, they figured a lot of my insomnia aspect out. Just had another checkup with them over the long weekend, they were surprised that my insomnia hasn't completely gone yet, cause it was a simple fix (the doctor is starting to come around to it being mold herself, though she isn't an expert on anything but sleep - her words).

I had an experience similar to yours during my health check last year too.
Doctor: You need to lose some weight and exercise.
Me: I already mentioned, I weightlift 5 days a week, and do cardio on the exercise bike daily.
Doctor: *marks me down as 0 mins of exercise per week*

Sorry you had to go through that too. D:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13838 on: June 13, 2022, 01:37:30 pm »
I never asked again. I figured it out myself.

r/thanksimcured



  • hangook77
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13839 on: June 14, 2022, 07:57:21 am »
The average wait time is calculated from a positive fecal test,  which, apparently a GP at a walk-in clinic can do. This time includes the referral to a specialist.

According to the national average data, after getting a referral from one's GP, it takes about 60 days to get a colonoscopy.
It varies from province to province, with Newfoundland (surprisingly, being the fastest (with an average of only 33 days)

Rereading my post, I noticed that I cited the wrong link (which directs to Australian wait-times lol). This was the link I meant to include:
https://www.partnershipagainstcancer.ca/topics/colorectal-indicators-2017-2018/indicators/wait-times/
Totally. Province by province, it makes a huge difference. Average wait time in Newfoundland is 33 days. Average time in Nova Scotia is 86 days. In the Yukon, it takes almost 100 days.

Not sure why my friend said it took her nearly a year and a half to get in.  This was a couple of years ago.  But fairly recent.  Strange many are complaining about the wait times then. 
Trolls on here are lame and need to get a life.