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  • nightninja
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13040 on: July 01, 2021, 03:33:22 pm »
Likely comes down to numbers. How many English teachers are there in Gyeonggi? How many people at say, a big Korean megachurch or in Shincheonji?

There is likely a point at which it is feasible and which it isn't.

It's not like they profiled ALL foreigners, as some have erroneously claimed.

I live in a building with a shincheonji training center and they have not been allowed back into their space yet by the gov and the landlord


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13041 on: July 01, 2021, 04:50:43 pm »
I live in a building with a shincheonji training center and they have not been allowed back into their space yet by the gov and the landlord
Clearly this is because the government only singles out foreigners and the Korean public hasn't gone after any other groups that showed a spike in infections.

At some point you have to recognize reality: We are in a group that 1) Is going to be high-profile due to our contact with children and 2) DOES tend to cluster.

We have to balance safety and equality.


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    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13042 on: July 02, 2021, 09:58:18 am »
Lee JaeMyeong has announced his presidential bid.

This is the man behind the Great Gyeonggi Wayg Corona Test Caper of recent months.

:(


  • OnNut81
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    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13043 on: July 02, 2021, 10:44:30 am »
Only had two classes this morning and am facing a long afternoon.  I'll probably plop down on my yoga map and do my "stretching" for an hour but that's probably all I'll be able to do.  My first time co-teacher is young and gets nervous having to discuss basic things with me.  I'm considering popping in next door and telling her that I've fallen head over heels in love with her over the last months and just needed to get that off my chest to see how that shakes up the afternoon.  I am in a committed relationship, so would also have to explain the concept of unrequited love before summing it up with "Just thought you should know, have a great weekend."  Down sides?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13044 on: July 02, 2021, 10:45:53 am »
Only had two classes this morning and am facing a long afternoon.  I'll probably plop down on my yoga map and do my "stretching" for an hour but that's probably all I'll be able to do.  My first time co-teacher is young and gets nervous having to discuss basic things with me.  I'm considering popping in next door and telling her that I've fallen head over heels in love with her over the last months and just needed to get that off my chest to see how that shakes up the afternoon.  I am in a committed relationship, so would also have to explain the concept of unrequited love before summing it up with "Just thought you should know, have a great weekend."  Down sides?

Soooo, is there some kind of backstory behind this, or is it because of your long afternoon, lol?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13045 on: July 02, 2021, 10:47:04 am »
My first time co-teacher is young and gets nervous having to discuss basic things with me. 

Ask her if she knows any good clubs in Hongdae that you don't need to QR code sign-in for.


  • OnNut81
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13046 on: July 02, 2021, 10:56:36 am »
Soooo, is there some kind of backstory behind this, or is it because of your long afternoon, lol?

Just my long afternoon.  I saw her hemming and hawing in the hallway and just had the random thought that if she gets flustered over finding a pencil on the floor, how she'd react if I told her I was in love with her.  I don't actually have any amorous feelings for her.  It's just where your mind goes when you've been done for the day since 10:25 and the rest of the semester is planned out.  I'll probably end up back on booking.com and Google street view planning for that summer vacation in Austria and Germany I'm not taking . 


  • Lazio
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    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13047 on: July 02, 2021, 11:24:59 am »
Hmm, did she ever smile while talking to you? That would surely mean she is into you.

You could ask her if she listens to BTS. I heard that's a great pick up line.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13048 on: July 02, 2021, 11:38:05 am »
I saw her hemming and hawing in the hallway and just had the random thought that if she gets flustered over finding a pencil on the floor, how she'd react if I told her I was in love with her.

Kdramas have prepared her for that, if you really want to throw her off, share edgy memes about Korea with her but with zero context.


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13049 on: July 02, 2021, 11:46:09 am »
share edgy memes about Korea with her but with zero context.
I have some, if anyone needs them.


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13050 on: July 02, 2021, 11:54:31 am »
Where’s the meme(s) about waygook.org?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13051 on: July 02, 2021, 12:37:48 pm »
Bill Maher: NEW RULE!

If you have a website that lets you book bus/train tickets, then you let the user select the destination FIRST. THEN when I bring up the list of departure stations, you ONLY show me the stations that have routes departing from them TO MY SPECIFIC destination.

The KTX booking is HORRIBLE for this. I'm going to Gwangju. That is the given. I don't want to sort through all the stations in the system, pick one that is close to my house and then get a "Route not found." JUST show me the ones I can depart from, you idiots.


  • Savant
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13052 on: July 02, 2021, 01:55:46 pm »
Bill Maher: NEW RULE!

If you have a website that lets you book bus/train tickets, then you let the user select the destination FIRST. THEN when I bring up the list of departure stations, you ONLY show me the stations that have routes departing from them TO MY SPECIFIC destination.

The KTX booking is HORRIBLE for this. I'm going to Gwangju. That is the given. I don't want to sort through all the stations in the system, pick one that is close to my house and then get a "Route not found." JUST show me the ones I can depart from, you idiots.

Sums up Korea: Great Mobile Apps but generally shit websites.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13053 on: July 02, 2021, 03:08:49 pm »
Will there ever come a day where public schools are allowed to get rid of all the old, useless sh*t that just takes up space?

While looking for camp materials at the back of the English room I found a huge stash of audio cassette tapes, a Windows 98 CD case and of course a library of books that have never been used since they're too advanced.

On a related note, I was scratching for craft materials for a Rube Goldberg camp activity I'm planning. My CT is way too eager to just buy new materials every year, for every activity, instead of seeing what's available to be used again. The fun and creativity behind designing a Rube Goldberg machine is to use what's available, not buy because it's not your money and you can't be bothered to do a bit of rummaging. For God's sake, this woman wants to buy sticks for one of the activities instead of getting the students to spend less than 5min gathering them from the school garden.

How can someone be that wasteful and oblivious?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13054 on: July 02, 2021, 03:13:19 pm »
gathering them from the school garden.

오, 더티.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13055 on: July 02, 2021, 05:53:51 pm »
How can someone be that wasteful and oblivious?
Rule #1 of government spending: Spend it or lose it in next year's budget.

It's true the world over and is unavoidable.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13056 on: July 02, 2021, 06:54:26 pm »
Rule #1 of government spending: Spend it or lose it in next year's budget.

It's true the world over and is unavoidable.

If you would've resisted the urge to defend any hint of criticism against anything Korean you might've stopped to gather some more information before pouncing to that conclusion.

I'm trying to spend as much of the limited camp budget on dictionaries that can be used by all the students, year round. We have no dictionaries and my CT with 12yrs experience and an MA
seems to think I'm being a bit odd by making the students use picture dictionaries to learn new words by themselves instead of asking us "How do you spell chicken?" or "What is '똥' in English?"
50X a day.

Anyway....even after spending the entire budget on dictionaries we wont have half as many as I'd like. Other than the dictionaries there's very little funds to buy other camp material and I'm fine with that as planning a kick ass camp simply requires creativity and know how, not money.

So, no, she's just wasteful and it's something I've noticed with most of the CTs I've worked with. For one sports activity, during winter camp, I just wanted a few old blankets or sheets so the students could have a kind of blanket sled race off the slippery floors in the hall (the loved it). My
CT new exactly what I was going to be using the blankets for and instead of spending a bit of effort to find an old blanket, she orders brand new blankets, online, from that cost over 150k!

Stay off the internet if you're that terrified of having Korea criticised.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13057 on: July 02, 2021, 07:51:03 pm »
Why does everything have to be so overly complicated here?

I go to Innisfree. I get some masks, what have you. I got a member card a while back. Saved up some points, which are essentially ₩. I go to pay.

1) I give her my physical membership card.
2)  :police: 포인트 사용해주세요 (it's 2600₩ over the last year. Perfectly covers the cost of 2 masks. Nice)
3) "Ah, Kevin. I need the pass number that is being texted to your phone."
 :police: Oh, that's weird. But okay. "It's 487735."
4) "Hmmmm, Kevin, there's a problem."
5) she phones Innisfree support.
F me, I just wanted some masks and I LITERALLY HAVE THE CARD. I'M KEVIN. IT'S ME. YOU SAW MY NAME IN THE SYSTEM.
6) "Ah, Kevin something, something (keep in mind, this is in Korean) Naver account Amore Pacific."
7)  :police: 정말 몰라요.
8) phones Innisfree again
9) "Kevin, the woman I was speaking to is on dinner break now."
10) JESUS F CHRIST

It's 2 bucks fifty worth of membership points. I have the card, you know the account holders name, you knew how many points I had. Just bloody well use them.

I thought that the text message code to give her was stupid, it only got worse. How fukking difficult is it to just USE THE POINTS I'VE ACCUMULATED.

I'm not trying to use hundreds of dollars with a different person's account. I'm not trying to sell Korean bank bonds to a foreign governemnt.

Why?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13058 on: July 03, 2021, 10:07:53 am »
If you would've resisted the urge to defend any hint of criticism against anything Korean you might've stopped to gather some more information before pouncing to that conclusion.

I'm trying to spend as much of the limited camp budget on dictionaries that can be used by all the students, year round. We have no dictionaries and my CT with 12yrs experience and an MA
seems to think I'm being a bit odd by making the students use picture dictionaries to learn new words by themselves instead of asking us "How do you spell chicken?" or "What is '똥' in English?"
50X a day.

Anyway....even after spending the entire budget on dictionaries we wont have half as many as I'd like. Other than the dictionaries there's very little funds to buy other camp material and I'm fine with that as planning a kick ass camp simply requires creativity and know how, not money.

So, no, she's just wasteful and it's something I've noticed with most of the CTs I've worked with. For one sports activity, during winter camp, I just wanted a few old blankets or sheets so the students could have a kind of blanket sled race off the slippery floors in the hall (the loved it). My
CT new exactly what I was going to be using the blankets for and instead of spending a bit of effort to find an old blanket, she orders brand new blankets, online, from that cost over 150k!

Stay off the internet if you're that terrified of having Korea criticised.
Dude, usually you're pretty good at taking it if you dish it out. Not this time.
 Two things can be true at the same time: your criticism OF YOUR COTEACHER (Not Korea) AND the reality that if you don't spend it, you lose it. My post explains, it doesn't excuse.

Anyways, if we're talking wasteful spending, the utility of photocopiable picture dictionaries, purchased in bulk, in the digital age, could also draw some scrutiny.

Look, I assume you're talking Oxford Picture Dictionary? Those are great books. I have used them too. But I also recognize that it is 2021 and maybe 20 of them might be a dated approach.

I mean, if you really want to go old-school, buy 20 copies of Minjung's Essence. Pictures are just a poor substitute for imagination and critical thinking, right?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13059 on: July 03, 2021, 09:53:51 pm »
Dude, usually you're pretty good at taking it if you dish it out. Not this time.
 Two things can be true at the same time: your criticism OF YOUR COTEACHER (Not Korea) AND the reality that if you don't spend it, you lose it. My post explains, it doesn't excuse.

I've lived in Korea for a long time and I have the right to have an opinion on the people I work with and the culture I experience.
You assumed and you assumed wrong, own up or don't comment.

Anyways, if we're talking wasteful spending, the utility of photocopiable picture dictionaries, purchased in bulk, in the digital age, could also draw some scrutiny.

Maybe all your students use iPads/tablets in class. Mine don't. By your logic, we should remove all library books, have a book burning and stop writing, period.
Stop trying to find ways to force your argument, you're wrong.

Look, I assume you're talking Oxford Picture Dictionary? Those are great books. I have used them too. But I also recognize that it is 2021 and maybe 20 of them might be a dated approach.

I mean, if you really want to go old-school, buy 20 copies of Minjung's Essence. Pictures are just a poor substitute for imagination and critical thinking, right?

Old school? No, my friend, I'm talking pedagogical strategies that are being used, right now, around the world.

From a Structuralist approach, which I'm a proponent of, learners rely on MKOs to learn with the Zone of Proximal Development.
MKOs need not be a person, particularly as I only have around 40min per week per class, I have minimal one on one time with learners.
Picture dictionaries are accessible , convenient and pragmatic MKOs for learners in an ESL class, even in 2021:

- They free up the teacher's time
- They work in both a low and high affective filter environments/learners
- They encourage a proactive approach and learner-learner centred language development, which should make up around 80% of activities, according to the Communicative Approach, which I adopt where possible in this broken excuse of a curriculum.

Furthermore, I've been regularly using these dictionaries at my other schools, in a variety of ways, since the beginning of the year. The results have been fantastic.

If you're up for discussing how and why using age-appropriate dictionaries in my ESL classrooms would be detrimental to the learning process then I'm all ears, as long
as you back up your opinion with relevant research. Not trying to posture, but I've just spent the last 2yrs studying this stuff so if you've come across something that myself, a hundred other
PGCE students and my lecturers haven't then by all means, share the knowledge. I won't entertain anything less, so your patented brand of anecdotal evidence and BS simply isn't going to
interest me.