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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13000 on: June 11, 2021, 09:07:38 am »
Is it Gimchi or Kimchi?

According to the Korean government romanization rules it's Gimchi. https://www.korean.go.kr/front_eng/roman/roman_01.do

Literally no one on earth spells it Gimchi.

So why make the rules in the first place if you're just gonna ignore them and do what you want in the world's most intelligent and scientific language.  :rolleyes:


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13001 on: June 11, 2021, 09:12:36 am »
Korean national curriculum textbooks use gimchi and Mr. Gim. But outside of that I’ve never seen this.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13002 on: June 11, 2021, 09:22:53 am »
Is it Gimchi or Kimchi?

According to the Korean government romanization rules it's Gimchi. https://www.korean.go.kr/front_eng/roman/roman_01.do

Literally no one on earth spells it Gimchi.

So why make the rules in the first place if you're just gonna ignore them and do what you want in the world's most intelligent and scientific language.  :rolleyes:




This is one of those established name things that can't/shouldn't be changed at this point.

Park is SUPER incorrect if you're gonna try to romanise the word 박. Bak would be the obvious go to here.

Park? What's that? 팔크? 파르크? Some words have been so commonly used in English over time that it doesn't make sense to "properly" romanise them, like staple foods (Kimchi being THE prime example) and, especially, family names. 이 should not be romanised to I at this point.

I will make exceptions for egregiously stupid romanisations like topokki. Man, that spelling makes NO sense. 토포키?

Even romanising it as talkbowkey would be better even though it looks unwieldy and insane. 


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13003 on: June 11, 2021, 09:25:21 am »
Better question, is it pork or fork????


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13004 on: June 11, 2021, 09:49:01 am »
Better question, is it pork or fork????

Yonks ago, I had a HS student label a favorite food as "folk lips".

I was flummoxed at first, but now it's so obvious that that's pork ribs.

Romanizing Korean is terrible, and Hangeulizing English just as bad.  I insist co-teachers not do with a handful of examples.  Just teach phonics.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13005 on: June 11, 2021, 10:24:28 am »
Yonks ago, I had a HS student label a favorite food as "folk lips".

I was flummoxed at first, but now it's so obvious that that's pork ribs.

Romanizing Korean is terrible, and Hangeulizing English just as bad.  I insist co-teachers not do with a handful of examples.  Just teach phonics.

I had a student write, "I had crap for dinner."  (crab)  I hand her a dictionary and waited for her response, I wasn't disappointed. :D


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13006 on: June 11, 2021, 10:39:45 am »
I say just go by the common spelling


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13007 on: June 11, 2021, 10:58:58 am »
I say just go by the common spelling

You're a disgrace to the profession!

That sort of attitude is how you get an entire population stopping in the middle of roundabouts yielding to oncoming traffic.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13008 on: June 11, 2021, 11:12:31 am »


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13009 on: June 11, 2021, 11:25:20 am »
Actually, in that picture, the pink car meant to turn off into the eastermost road, but missed the turn so decided to throw it into reverse and just back up a few metres. Of course, the yellow car is now just parked there and leaning on the horn. Car A has stopped to watch the drama unfold, and B has decided to stop because there's a chance that the yellow car will get out of the way, and the pink car will bomb down the rotunda backwards and slam into him before stopping and heading forward again.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13010 on: June 11, 2021, 01:26:14 pm »
Is it Gimchi or Kimchi?

According to the Korean government romanization rules it's Gimchi. https://www.korean.go.kr/front_eng/roman/roman_01.do

Literally no one on earth spells it Gimchi.

So why make the rules in the first place if you're just gonna ignore them and do what you want in the world's most intelligent and scientific language.  :rolleyes:
I also have to point out, that well, its not really the fault of hangul that the romanization is that way.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13011 on: June 11, 2021, 02:51:09 pm »
It became an English word decades ago when the spelling was "kimchi". So it remains as such until native English speaking societies start to do otherwise.

"Hyundai" is the old spelling, too. And "taekwondo".


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13012 on: June 11, 2021, 02:53:09 pm »
And "taekwondo".
This one is pretty damn close. It's just the g/k


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13013 on: June 12, 2021, 07:52:02 am »
“Teenagers are especially conscious of how their peers view them. That’s a major trait of adolescence in general. When they see their friends buy luxury products, it’s hard for them to resist imitating them, even if it’s financially burdensome.”

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2021/04/06/culture/features/luxury-gucci-chanel/20210406161000445.html

“The public used to not recognize K-pop idols as real musicians and didn’t take them seriously. Their image was not high-end enough for luxury brands. But now the status of idols has changed. Their popularity reaches global audiences and wields immense influence on their fans, who are mostly teenagers. Teen fans will buy a product solely because their favorite idol promotes it."


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13014 on: June 18, 2021, 03:18:22 pm »
F me sideways, my school has teacher's clubs (that's normal, we all do) but GOOD GOD, there is a club that is a band. The male teachers.

They practice in the room above my office every Friday and they know ONE SONG. I think they wrote it, which is cool, but I hear it 15 times in a row EVERY Friday. F me.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13015 on: June 18, 2021, 03:20:12 pm »
ask them if you can record it and share it with your friends and then post it here


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13016 on: June 29, 2021, 04:14:01 pm »
“Unless the right interventions are undertaken, Korea is too under-vaccinated to withstand the inevitable new variant.”

Overall, 29 percent of Korea’s 51 million people received one dose of a vaccine, while just 9 percent are fully vaccinated.


http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20210627000152

After the second dose, the AstraZeneca vaccine -- the most widely administered kind in Korea -- gave 60 percent protection against delta, compared with 66 percent against alpha. The effectiveness of both doses of the Pfizer vaccine was 88 percent against delta and 93 percent against alpha.

 :cry: TL;DR- AstraZeneca, the kind most got, doesn't work as well as Pfizer. And the percentage of Koreans fully vaccinated is in the single digits. :cry:

Younger than 60, the more socially active cohort, have to wait at least a couple of months before they become eligible for vaccination.

Nooooooooooooo!

Earlier this year, South Africa suspended the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine after a study found it was only 10 percent protective against mild and moderate infections from the beta variant prevalent there.

Only 10%? Yikes!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13017 on: June 29, 2021, 04:40:55 pm »
A bit unsettling, yeah.  :sad:
But, on the bright side, Korea is getting something like 10 million doses shipped in during July (of various brands), so that should up the percentages.
Their schedule is to hit 70% by September, and have full herd immunity by November.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/skorea-mix-and-match-covid-19-vaccine-doses-760000-people-2021-06-18/


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13018 on: June 30, 2021, 07:33:30 pm »
Social distancing rules were set to be relaxed starting July 1st… but it was announced this isn’t going to happen due to cases rising. ㅠ ㅠ


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #13019 on: June 30, 2021, 08:39:30 pm »
Social distancing rules were set to be relaxed starting July 1st… but it was announced this isn’t going to happen due to cases rising. ㅠ ㅠ

Yeah, but I still get to go mask-free on my walk to work tomorrow morning, so ...