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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12980 on: June 08, 2021, 07:26:41 am »
all four examples you used are very much used only by teenagers and/or people who still think of themselves as teenagers.
my dude? my man? my guy?

i will add that the hometown thing really gets my goat, too. happened to me a lot in unviersity:
"where u from dude?"
"im from boston"
"oh where in boston?"
"reading"
"...dude that's like a 40 minute train ride away"


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12981 on: June 08, 2021, 07:46:10 am »
my dude? my man? my guy?

i will add that the hometown thing really gets my goat, too. happened to me a lot in unviersity:
"where u from dude?"
"im from boston"
"oh where in boston?"
"reading"
"...dude that's like a 40 minute train ride away"

I suppose, personally, I never ask people what their hometown is. I'm in my 30s and so are they.

 :police: "Where you from?"

 :smiley: Canada

 :police: Oh, nice. Where?

 :smiley: Toronto.

 :police: Oh, nice.

Whenever someone says that's where they're FROM I roll with it and discuss that city with them. Again, my hometown is Hamilton and I have NOTHING to say about it, so............. I lived in Toronto a long time, I went there all the time, I lived on its fringes for a super long time.

Hometown has such a homespun, Midwest sound to it and that's why I never use it. Where you're from is a question I ask because the answers aere usually more interesting. Hometown is a boring question, honestly.

 :police: What's your hometown?

 :smiley: Anchorage.

 :police: Oh, snap! I love Anchorage. Oh, X Y and Z, do you remember the diner in the red cabin? Awww yerah! So good!

 :smiley: I moved from there when I was three.

 :police: Oh................. ..

I suppose I don't really have much to talk about the places where people grew up as children (myself included haha)

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12982 on: June 08, 2021, 07:50:48 am »
i guess its a bit different now, you're right. i would never ask someone where there hometown is lol. but when you're in university it seems like the majority of the people you meet are from 1 place. but also i dont think your hometown is just where you were born? i guess for me its like between your birth and age 18 where did you live the most? but then what if you lived 3 different places for 6 years? do you even have a hometown?


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« Reply #12983 on: June 08, 2021, 07:51:58 am »
Since this is the ranting and venting thread, is Toronto really your hometown?  Hometown being where you were born and raised, not spent a few years as an adult?  Come on now.  It's a pet peeve of mine.  I can't tell you the amount of people I've met here that say they're from Toronto and when I say "me too" and start to talk about where they grew up and what schools they attended, it turns out they're not actually from Toronto.  And this is not a Toronto snobbery thing.  Just an issue of accuracy.

I mean I guess I can see how that'd be annoying, but especially when you move a lot your "hometown" is usually the last place that, well, felt like home. my "hometown" is technically in Kentucky but I haven't lived there for like... 18ish years? if someone from there asked me about what schools i attended etc i wouldnt have shit to say


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« Reply #12984 on: June 08, 2021, 07:55:19 am »
but then what if you lived 3 different places for 6 years? do you even have a hometown?
0-10 Hamilton (as discussed, once I left, it disappeared forever)
11-13 Kingston (I have WAY more memories of this place. I had more autonomy and biked around EVERYWHERE)
14-21 Barrie (From 18 to 21, went to Toronto multiple times a week for concerts)
22 - Midland
22-24 Sudbury
24-28 Toronto
Then, over 8 years, Uiwang, Incheon, Guro-gu, Gunpo, Uiwang

Like............ the hell am I? hahahaha 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12985 on: June 08, 2021, 07:58:36 am »
I suppose, personally, I never ask people what their hometown is. I'm in my 30s and so are they.

 :police: "Where you from?"

 :smiley: Canada

 :police: Oh, nice. Where?

 :smiley: Toronto.

 :police: Oh, nice.

Whenever someone says that's where they're FROM I roll with it and discuss that city with them. Again, my hometown is Hamilton and I have NOTHING to say about it, so............. I lived in Toronto a long time, I went there all the time, I lived on its fringes for a super long time.

Hometown has such a homespun, Midwest sound to it and that's why I never use it. Where you're from is a question I ask because the answers aere usually more interesting. Hometown is a boring question, honestly.

 :police: What's your hometown?

 :smiley: Anchorage.

 :police: Oh, snap! I love Anchorage. Oh, X Y and Z, do you remember the diner in the red cabin? Awww yerah! So good!

 :smiley: I moved from there when I was three.

 :police: Oh................. ..

But...you were the one who used the term hometown in the first place; "it's literally my hometown " is what you said about some place that is literally NOT your hometown.  You brought "hometown" into the discussion.  Now you're trying to disparage the use of the term. 

As a native Torontonian, I often come across people who aren't from Toronto claiming they are, so I like to clarify things.  I just don't think someone who didn't grow up in a place but only spent a few years there should be be trying to present themselves as someone from that city.  And everyone in Toronto, once you move on from high school, asks people where they are from.  It's a point of interest in any big city when so many people come from somewhere else.  Native Torontonians don't consider anyone any less of a Torontonian because they hailed from somewhere else, but it is noted. 

Again, substitute Toronto for any other city in the world that people migrate to.  This discussion just happens to be about Toronto because it was mentioned.  This is not a "Toronto thinks it is the centre of the universe" thing. 


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« Reply #12986 on: June 08, 2021, 08:00:57 am »
But...you were the one who used the term hometown in the first place; "it's literally my hometown " is what you said about some place that is literally NOT your hometown.  You brought "hometown" into the discussion.  Now you're trying to disparage the use of the term. 

I misspoke and I apologise, 형님.  :-[

I suppose I meant culturally to emphasize the anecdote.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12987 on: June 09, 2021, 11:02:39 am »
Here is some sad news:
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“The number of children experiencing myopia, or nearsightedness, is increasing steeply in Korea, where the majority of the population already experience vision problems. Doctors say that it seems to be related to the rise of online classes during the COVID-19 pandemic.”

https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=310162

“It is especially a problem for children as their eyes are still developing.”
________________

In my opinion, it’s not just online classes but also that kids are spending too much time on their phones and with screens in general.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12988 on: June 09, 2021, 12:05:12 pm »
i guess its a bit different now, you're right. i would never ask someone where there hometown is lol. but when you're in university it seems like the majority of the people you meet are from 1 place. but also i dont think your hometown is just where you were born? i guess for me its like between your birth and age 18 where did you live the most? but then what if you lived 3 different places for 6 years? do you even have a hometown?

To me a hometown is the place that you relate most strongly to. I spent the first 11 years of my life in 1 state, that time split between two cities, and the next 10 in a different state, in one city. I would NEVER describe the city I spent the latter ten years in as my hometown. I have zero emotional connection to it, it never felt like home, and I don't care to remember a lot about that time. I moved away from there as soon as I could. I'll always think of the town I lived from 4-11 as my hometown. Those were really happy years for me overall, and my memory of that time is really bright. I guess it felt the most positively formative for me.

Anyhow (not that you were arguing this), nobody is ever going to question where someone says their hometown is. Like I'm never gonna tell someone who relates most strongly to NYC as their hometown that they shouldn't call themselves a New Yorker because they didn't live there until they were 6. Whatever city someone vibes with, that's cool with me 8)


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12989 on: June 09, 2021, 12:21:02 pm »
To me a hometown is the place that you relate most strongly to. I spent the first 11 years of my life in 1 state, that time split between two cities, and the next 10 in a different state, in one city. I would NEVER describe the city I spent the latter ten years in as my hometown. I have zero emotional connection to it, it never felt like home, and I don't care to remember a lot about that time. I moved away from there as soon as I could. I'll always think of the town I lived from 4-11 as my hometown. Those were really happy years for me overall, and my memory of that time is really bright. I guess it felt the most positively formative for me.

Anyhow (not that you were arguing this), nobody is ever going to question where someone says their hometown is. Like I'm never gonna tell someone who relates most strongly to NYC as their hometown that they shouldn't call themselves a New Yorker because they didn't live there until they were 6. Whatever city someone vibes with, that's cool with me 8)

Sure, you can question where someone's hometown is.  I have a friend that moved to Manhattan.  He's a New Yorker.  Lives and works in Manhattan.  No matter what he thinks of NYC he can't claim it as his hometown.  In no way whatsoever.  You may hate your hometown, but hometown does mean something.  You can't just pick any place you like.  That's absurd. 


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« Reply #12990 on: June 09, 2021, 12:25:38 pm »
Sure, you can question where someone's hometown is.  I have a friend that moved to Manhattan.  He's a New Yorker.  Lives and works in Manhattan.  No matter what he thinks of NYC he can't claim it as his hometown.  In no way whatsoever.  You may hate your hometown, but hometown does mean something.  You can't just pick any place you like.  That's absurd.

If hometown objectively means anything it probably carries some association with childhood and growing up there for at least a portion of time.

If someone spent any period of their childhood/growing up/formative years in a specific city, then I think they have a right to identify that place as their hometown. I'm not going to question that.


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« Reply #12991 on: June 09, 2021, 12:39:06 pm »
If hometown objectively means anything it probably carries some association with childhood and growing up there for at least a portion of time.

If someone spent any period of their childhood/growing up/formative years in a specific city, then I think they have a right to identify that place as their hometown. I'm not going to question that.

Exactly.  Hometown is associated with where your formative years from childhood to adolescence as well as your family's roots.  So, you can't just pick any place due to it being higher profile and claim it as your hometown.  I don't know anyone that doesn't eventually ask about someone's hometown when they're getting to know a person overseas.  A normal and expected question would be

"Where are you from?" 
"Canada" 
"Oh, where in Canada?"
"Well, originally I'm from Minden, but was living in Lindsay before I came here"
"Oh, cool, I grew up in Coboconck." 

Now, that's a conversation between Canadians.  You would break it down to hometown.  It would be odd if you didn't ask more details.  If it was an American asking a Canadian you would just leave it at Canada because they're only going to say they've been to Niagara Falls once and beyond that's just snow galore to them. 
 


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« Reply #12992 on: June 09, 2021, 12:43:20 pm »
Exactly.  Hometown is associated with where your formative years from childhood to adolescence as well as your family's roots.  So, you can't just pick any place due to it being higher profile and claim it as your hometown.  I don't know anyone that doesn't eventually ask about someone's hometown when they're getting to know a person overseas.  A normal and expected question would be

"Where are you from?" 
"Canada" 
"Oh, where in Canada?"
"Well, originally I'm from Minden, but was living in Lindsay before I came here"
"Oh, cool, I grew up in Coboconck." 

Now, that's a conversation between Canadians.  You would break it down to hometown.  It would be odd if you didn't ask more details.  If it was an American asking a Canadian you would just leave it at Canada because they're only going to say they've been to Niagara Falls once and beyond that's just snow galore to them. 
 

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« Reply #12993 on: June 09, 2021, 12:52:14 pm »
Exactly.  Hometown is associated with where your formative years from childhood to adolescence as well as your family's roots.  So, you can't just pick any place due to it being higher profile and claim it as your hometown.  I don't know anyone that doesn't eventually ask about someone's hometown when they're getting to know a person overseas.  A normal and expected question would be

"Where are you from?" 
"Canada" 
"Oh, where in Canada?"
"Well, originally I'm from Minden, but was living in Lindsay before I came here"
"Oh, cool, I grew up in Coboconck." 

Now, that's a conversation between Canadians.  You would break it down to hometown.  It would be odd if you didn't ask more details.  If it was an American asking a Canadian you would just leave it at Canada because they're only going to say they've been to Niagara Falls once and beyond that's just snow galore to them. 
 

I don't think I claimed you can pick any place in the world as your hometown regardless of when/how long you lived there.

What I said is that if someone tells me NYC is their hometown, I'm not going to quiz them about it and make sure they pass my own subjective validity test to ensure they meet the standard of whatever it means to call NYC a hometown. I'd just take them at their word if they told me "My hometown is X."

I do agree with your point that asking about someone's hometown is more unusual than just asking where they're from. It's more uncomfortable to me too. The second question is a lot more flexible and lets the person choose without the parameters of childhood, it's more asking about their chosen home and where they consider home as opposed to where their parents raised them.

The older I get, the less I identify with my hometown. I used to have a lot of pride in it, now I don't care that much about it and I don't identify with the social culture of it anymore either. So yeah, it is weird when people ask me specifically where my hometown is, because having to identify as being from X when I don't really feel much like X anymore is a little weird, and kind of unrepresentative of the present-day me. Yeah, I came from there, but it's been years and it's not like I'm pining to go back.
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« Reply #12994 on: June 09, 2021, 01:18:10 pm »
Now, that's a conversation between Canadians.  You would break it down to hometown.  It would be odd if you didn't ask more details.  If it was an American asking a Canadian you would just leave it at Canada because they're only going to say they've been to Niagara Falls once and beyond that's just snow galore to them. 
Ehh, depends on what part of the U.S. they grew up in. They might not have a comprehensive familiarity, but if they regularly went across the border, then they might have some familiarity.


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« Reply #12995 on: June 09, 2021, 11:55:29 pm »
In what country is a public transit bus allowed to pass a site during demolition. In fact, how is ANY vehicle allowed within a full friggin' square block??!

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« Reply #12996 on: June 10, 2021, 07:54:39 am »
I don't really have a hometown myself since my dad was in the military and we got moved around a lot. I don't even claim my city of birth my hometown because my parents didn't actually live there at any time,  I was just born in one of their hospitals because it happened to be the closest one at the time. Only lived in that area for a year anyway.

So I never really know how to answer that question whenever asked. Even the "where are you from" question is a weird one for me to answer if the person asking is looking for more than a country of origin because I've never really lived in one place for too long. If people ask me which state I'm from, I just say Texas because I spent my teenage years there and stuck around for a few years into adulthood.

So it's also possible that other people just toss out an answer whenever asked because it's easier than explaining their travel history.


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« Reply #12997 on: June 11, 2021, 08:20:46 am »
Why isn't there even a single deli in every Korean city?

Because the cheapest hot dog wiener is packaged and sold as locally seen as equivalent.

I guess all kinds of processed meat is carcinogenic. But a salami, pepperoni or kielbasa might be worth the cancer risk. No sausage in this country is.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12998 on: June 11, 2021, 08:25:42 am »
Why isn't there even a single deli in every Korean city?

Because the cheapest hot dog wiener is packaged and sold as locally seen as equivalent.

I guess all kinds of processed meat is carcinogenic. But a salami, pepperoni or kielbasa might be worth the cancer risk. No sausage in this country is.

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