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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12920 on: May 07, 2021, 10:49:03 am »
More people in Korea die from air pollution than from coronavirus. Around the world it kills more (and weakens immune systems, increasing likelihood of death from coronavirus) ... but not a lot is being said / done about that.


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12921 on: May 07, 2021, 10:49:22 am »
 
Coronavirus isn’t that dangerous. Only if you are very weak can it kill you. Exceptionally healthy people almost certainly will feel nothing.

this is some mega-bullshit dude. several olympic athletes died of coronavirus. a few of them weren't even that old
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12922 on: May 07, 2021, 10:49:38 am »
Yes. It’s been working. But do you want to live that way forever?

No. And, as I've mentioned before, I am frustrated by the lack of vaccines available here. Hopefully, the vast majority of people can be vaccinated by the end of the year. And if that is the case, I would look back on this and continue to think being in Korea was a better option.
"in real life I have a Mensa level IQ. That’s the opposite of mentally retarded. People have told me I’m the smartest person they’ve ever met. Has anyone said that to you? Probably not."


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12923 on: May 07, 2021, 10:53:51 am »
Restrictions reduce deaths while in place. Vaccinations allow the lifting of restrictions. Social isolation is unhealthy. It’s a bad way to live long term. Let’s hope we can get vaccinated soon.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12924 on: May 07, 2021, 11:00:04 am »
this is some mega-bullshit dude. several olympic athletes died of coronavirus. a few of them weren't even that old

Um, no, you mean former athletes, people who haven’t competed in decades. The youngest I could find - late 50s. Is that young?

Black people need more sunlight to get sufficient vitamin d. That’s a problem that is weakening immune systems.

If you have dark skin, get enough sunlight.

If you’re obese, lose weight.

Exercise.

Eat good food.

Nothing to worry about, especially if you’re young.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12925 on: May 07, 2021, 11:05:50 am »
What are the statistical odds of dying from coronavirus? If you’re under 50 and/or not obese, virtually zero.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12926 on: May 07, 2021, 11:28:32 am »
Risk of death from coronavirus if infected without vaccination by age:
25: 1/10,000
35: 1/2,700
45: 1/800
55: 1/240
65: 1/70

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210126/how-dangerous-is-coronavirus-to-the-middle-aged
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Most people don’t live healthy lives, and yet most people don’t die from it. Very few do, proportionally speaking.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12927 on: May 07, 2021, 11:35:55 am »
People under 60 who have died from coronavirus are anomalies. Not common at all. Even people over 60 who die from it are anomalies. Almost all survive.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12928 on: May 07, 2021, 06:33:35 pm »
People under 60 who have died from coronavirus are anomalies. Not common at all. Even people over 60 who die from it are anomalies. Almost all survive.

That statement does not align with the stats you posted.

1/240 is not an anomaly.
1/800 is not an anomaly.

This is a significant and preventable risk.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12929 on: May 07, 2021, 08:54:24 pm »
Those are slim odds. Most people aren't dying from the virus upon infection. It's quite rare.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12930 on: May 07, 2021, 10:02:37 pm »
Those are slim odds. Most people aren't dying from the virus upon infection. It's quite rare.

Most people are really bad at risk assessment.

“Slim odds” is quite different than “most” and “rare”.

Risk is probably times consequence.

1/250 chance of winning a door prize at a convention… I assume I will not win and have no consequences in my life. I might give my ticket to someone on the way out if I don’t want to hang around.

1/250 chance of death… I don’t roll those dice if I can prevent it by getting  vaccines, washing hands, wearing masks, and limiting personal contact.

For comparison, nuclear plant owners draw “don’t worry about it” lines at about 10^-8.

That is 1 in 100,000,000.





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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12931 on: May 07, 2021, 10:09:46 pm »
It's those odds if you catch the virus... and are 55. But the average 55 year old is seriously unfit. Most are overweight (in the West). Aim for better than average. (It's a low bar.) Also, get a vaccine and do all that other stuff.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12932 on: May 10, 2021, 07:39:59 am »
Most people are really bad at risk assessment.

“Slim odds” is quite different than “most” and “rare”.

Risk is probably times consequence.

1/250 chance of winning a door prize at a convention… I assume I will not win and have no consequences in my life. I might give my ticket to someone on the way out if I don’t want to hang around.

1/250 chance of death… I don’t roll those dice if I can prevent it by getting  vaccines, washing hands, wearing masks, and limiting personal contact.

For comparison, nuclear plant owners draw “don’t worry about it” lines at about 10^-8.

That is 1 in 100,000,000.
i find this stuff really interesting. i read thinking fast and slow by daniel kahneman a few years ago and also a few of nassim taleb's books (so, barely scratching the surface... but still). they really changed the way i see risk (among other things). so yeah even a 1/10,000 chance is pretty spooky considering i have very little to gain (not wearing a mask, maybe taking a trip i'll probably be able to take anyway in a year or two) and everything to lose. so will i spin the 1/10,000 russian roulette gun for a small prize? nahhhh im good
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12933 on: May 10, 2021, 07:48:40 am »
But that’s a 1/10,000 risk IF you catch coronavirus, which probably won’t happen, mask or not,

Not worth worrying about. Ain’t gonna die unless below average health (which many are). And even then the risk is small.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12934 on: May 10, 2021, 08:10:32 am »
But that’s a 1/10,000 risk IF you catch coronavirus, which probably won’t happen, mask or not,

Not worth worrying about. Ain’t gonna die unless below average health (which many are). And even then the risk is small.


Ain't *Most likely* ain't gonna die unless below average health.
Also, "which many are" is a drastic understatement. Did you know that about *3.95 billion* people are in below average health?  :huh: :huh:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12935 on: May 10, 2021, 08:23:48 am »
Strive to be above average. Make a goal be in the upper 50%. You can do it! 화이팅!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12936 on: May 10, 2021, 01:09:33 pm »
Not worth worrying about. Ain’t gonna die unless below average health (which many are). And even then the risk is small.

Yep, tell that to the relatives of the 3.3 million that have died so far. You speak with the authority of a medical expert, just wondering what you medical credentials are? Perhaps you can publish them for us.

Statements like you are making are disrespectful to the victims and their families.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12937 on: May 10, 2021, 01:28:55 pm »
The people who died were old and/or out of shape.

When I say virtually no young people die from coronavirus I’m correct.

Keeping one’s immune system strong is important because it reduces the amount of time one can be contagious.

The world population is just under eight billion.

One one thousandth would be just under eight million.
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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12938 on: May 10, 2021, 01:31:19 pm »
Above poster, you’re almost 70, so yes you have to worry. And I’d be sad if you died. Exercise, get sunlight, eat healthy food, and avoid second hand smoke.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12939 on: May 10, 2021, 01:38:18 pm »
4 out of 5 Americans hospitalized for coronavirus were overweight. Over half were obese. Almost everyone who dies from coronavirus is old and/or overweight. Usually both. And deficient in vitamin D from not enough sunlight. Gotta get outside regularly for optimal health.