RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

I'll just point out, that while I am non-religious, I do believe that if the Jesus from the bible was an actual person that was the son of god etc. That he does have my respect. I was raised on that religion but, once I started questioning stuff about the bible, the priests at the church my family went to started getting really angry since I didn't buy into it. I went to a few other churches and got the same deal.
And knowing it probably started off good (teachings about helping others and being kind) has devolved into brain washing and control. Obviously, not all churches and stuff are like that, but most of the ones I have been too, and people I have met from others, have been more closed minded, and hate things they are told to hate because of it <- again, not all are like that, but those kinds have been the majority of my experiences.

I do my best to follow the core principles of what I was taught during my time there, being nice to others and stuff, and I respect people's right to believe whatever as long as it doesn't harm / cause hate towards others. But, organized religion is definitely not for me.

.   I'll just point out, that while I am non-religious, I do believe that if the Jesus from the bible was an actual person that was the son of god etc. That he does have my respect. 

Yeah it wouldn't be a smart move to diss someone you actually knew was the son of God

Yeah it wouldn't be a smart move to diss someone you actually knew was the son of God

Thanks, Stoat. hahaha, I thought the same thing.

  "I have incontrovertible proof that I am God."

  GET OUTTA HERE, YOU PHONEY.

Love you, Kayos, but that sentence is pretty funny. 

I'm not saying anything about Jesus Christ, the man.

I'm using it the way people have been using forever. "Holy shit!" "What the hell!" "Jesus Christ!"

It'd be like me telling someone to "F off" and them replying with the fact that they're chaste and don't do that kind of thing. It's being pedantic.

Let's say you're invited to a friend/colleagues wedding at a mosque/church/synagogue. What's stopping you from saying "J F*ing C" around that audience and at that venue?

Let's say you're invited to a friend/colleagues wedding at a mosque/church/synagogue. What's stopping you from saying "J F*ing C" around that audience and at that venue?

Are you equating waygook.org with a formal occasion?

And yeah, if I was in a church and the bride came out and looked AMAZING, I might say "Jesus Christ, she looks amazing." Not at the top of my lungs, yelling ANYTHING at the top of my lungs at a wedding would be rude.

And if I were at a Muslim celebration, I might say "By Allah, this is a great night." I did that with my friends in Indonesia and they didn't care. They know I'm not Muslim and they know that I'm saying it in a friendly way. I don't revolve my life making sure that all Christians and Muslims don't get upset.

I would not use the f word, just like I didn't earlier in my posts. Again, waygook is not a formal occasion.  We're all bantering back and forth throughout the day, sometimes I see stuff I couldn't care less about and sometimes I comment and sometimes I don't.

Please respect my personal beliefs by not using my holy leader's name in vain (keeping in mind, I didn't even comment ON Jesus, just used it like most people do) doesn't really fly with me, I'm afraid. Look, if it makes someone upset, I don't revel and relish in that fact, but we're all adults and I really don't think this is the end of the world. Jesus is strong enough not to be super concerned with me blurting out his name once in a while, I would hope.

Saffer decided to make this an issue today. He's a big boy and he can handle it. And if he can't, then that is hardly on me.

Thanks, Stoat. hahaha, I thought the same thing.

  "I have incontrovertible proof that I am God."

  GET OUTTA HERE, YOU PHONEY.

Love you, Kayos, but that sentence is pretty funny. 

I agree

And what is it about religious people that a lot of them have a need to push their religion onto others?
This is not a jab at anyone on here but, during my lunch break today, I decided to end a 4 year friendship with one of my Korean friends over religion.
When I met her she was non-religious, then 2 years back she decided to join a sect of Christianity, we'd be normal with each other but each time she'd ask me to join her religion, I'd politely decline. However, the last couple of months, it had gotten to the point where ALL she'd want to talk about is her religion, and trying really hard to try recruit me.
During my lunch break, she sent me PAGES of bible verses and quotes AND tried to recruit me again.

And, not too long ago, there was a jehova's witness guy that would travel an hour to my house each Sunday, just cause I opened my door 1 time to him. He'd keep trying to invite himself into my apartment, and kept trying to recruit me, even though I respectfully turned him down each time. >.<

I grew up around religion, I already know enough about it to know that it is not for me, I respect other people's views on it; I feel like they can't respect mine >.<

And what is it about religious people that a lot of them have a need to push their religion onto others?

Funny, for me it's 100% the other way around.

Real life, you might get a few people trying to convert you to their church (only speaking from personal experience as it's always been Jehovah's Witnesses etc. never had a Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist try to convert me).

Online, damn! Online is the realm of the, sorry to say, vitriol spewing Atheist (the nice ones you meet in real life).
They'll derail arguments, mock, insult and act like colossal assholes and insist that anyone who doesn't believe what they do is a complete idiot.

Funny, for me it's 100% the other way around.

Real life, you might get a few people trying to convert you to their church (only speaking from personal experience as it's always been Jehovah's Witnesses etc. never had a Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist try to convert me).

Online, damn! Online is the realm of the, sorry to say, vitriol spewing Atheist (the nice ones you meet in real life).
They'll derail arguments, mock, insult and act like colossal assholes and insist that anyone who doesn't believe what they do is a complete idiot.

For me, it's been mostly just been Jehova's, Cathlotics, and other forms of Christianity that have been doing this. In my home town in NZ, all the Christian groups have missionaries that go around town to try recruit people.
And I agree, I've actually never seen like a Jewish, Hindu, or Buddhist try to recruit someone.
And I agree with the online stuff too. I try not to act like that myself online, I say the same thing online as I would say in person: it's just not for me, and respect your choice. Though, I can get this way in a spirited debate about video games that I love/hate. D: Though, I try not to get to that point haha.

Cathlotics

누구 the ****?

누구 the ****?

I think they meant Cat Athletics.

누구 the ****?

Obviously a typo.

ohhhhhhhh yeah cat athletics sounds more like it compared to what i was thinking. anyway, i'm gonna start telling people "im not religious but i was raised cathlotic"

Obviously a typo.

_{yeah i know but its one hell of a typo you got there m8}

ohhhhhhhh yeah cat athletics sounds more like it compared to what i was thinking. anyway, i'm gonna start telling people "im not religious but i was raised cathlotic"
_{yeah i know but its one hell of a typo you got there m8}

Considering I have heart problems that are causing me to not sleep much currently, I'm surprised it's not worse.

  sorry kayos..

Funny, for me it's 100% the other way around.

Real life, you might get a few people trying to convert you to their church (only speaking from personal experience as it's always been Jehovah's Witnesses etc. never had a Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist try to convert me).

Online, damn! Online is the realm of the, sorry to say, vitriol spewing Atheist (the nice ones you meet in real life).
They'll derail arguments, mock, insult and act like colossal assholes and insist that anyone who doesn't believe what they do is a complete idiot.

Have to agree with that. The vast majority of people don’t push their religion on others, but atheists?  They’re like vegetarians. They will tell you.  And they always make the same tired sarcastic argument to show how rational and objective their views are.  Always something along the lines of “yeah, there is a guy with a beard sitting on a cloud that created the world in seven days.”   They seem to be unaware that for a long time now those stories are considered apocryphal by many in the church.  Faith isn’t just George Michael’s best song.  It’s not something you can argue against. 

sorry kayos..

It's all good, but it makes me moody, due to the lack of sleep.
Doctors aren't even sure what is causing it, as all tests so far (and I've had lots) are showing me as very healthy.
But, whenever I try to sleep, I get my heart issue that just keeps me awake for much longer, and wakes me up really early.
Taking Tylenol is making me fall asleep a bit quicker and helping a bit, but I still wake up early and really tired >.<

Atheists and Democrats- Two groups that think because they aren't the other side, they are immune to the impulses of the other side.

"How can I be ignorant and think unscientifically? I'm an atheist and vote Democrat!"

If you believe in science and biology, then you have to essentially accept an "original sin" view of human nature based on evolutionary biology and what our brains are wired to do. The idea that by eliminating organized religion you can eliminate certain human impulses doesn't really have much of a scientific basis.

Incidentally, research has suggested a genetic component to one being conservative or liberal and this likely was something that helped our species survive in its infancy- You needed to have both suspicious people in your tribe as well as people who would reach out. Without one or the other, your tribe is screwed.

I choose to hear it as a prayer.

If you believe in science and biology, then you have to essentially accept an "original sin" view of human nature based on evolutionary biology

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