RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

i agree with all your points but this is what galled me the most. i was trying to explain this to my wife (who was dealing with the mums) and she just goes back to the point of "yes but this is korea", like that's some kind of answer or normal explanation

i actually really like the kids and the class pays insanely well, so i want to keep it going. that's why i usually give my wife 25% of the money i get from the class because i feel bad she has to deal with the BS from the parents (they are also her old students, so they all know each other, and that's kind of how i got the job)

but jesus christ

Actually he has nothing to do with it.

Actually he has nothing to do with it.

Did you quote him and italicise  it and bold it simply to tell him Jesus didn't cause the mother to be like that?

Jesus Christ............. .......

Did you quote him and italicise  it and bold it simply to tell him Jesus didn't cause the mother to be like that?

Jesus Christ............. .......

Jesus died for our sins and yet oglop shows no respect and blames him for these mothers' petty complaints

Jesus died for our sins and yet oglop shows no respect and blames him for these mothers' petty complaints

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Did you quote him and italicise  it and bold it simply to tell him Jesus didn't cause the mother to be like that?

Jesus Christ............. .......

I think you are intelligent enough to know my true meaning. In case you missed it, I was objecting to using Jesus' name like this. It is unnecessary and disrespectful to those who follow the Christian faith.

Did you quote him and italicise  it and bold it simply to tell him Jesus didn't cause the mother to be like that?

Jesus Christ............. .......

I think you are intelligent enough to know my true meaning. In case you missed it, I was objecting to using Jesus' name like this. It is unnecessary and disrespectful to those who follow the Christian faith.

Jesus died for our sins and yet oglop shows no respect and blames him for these mothers' petty complaints

That's if JC was even real. :O

I think you are intelligent enough to know my true meaning. In case you missed it, I was objecting to using Jesus' name like this. It is unnecessary and disrespectful to those who follow the Christian faith.

Well, I find it disrespectful that you believe in something that says I'll be burned for eternity for not believing the stories that you believe in.

I think most of us can agree on who is being more respectful here. You know, the guy who doesn't think you'll be tortured for all eternity?

Just my thoughts on the matter. Jesus Christ.

Well, I find it disrespectful that you believe in something that says I'll be burned for eternity for not believing the stories that you believe in.

I think most of us can agree on who is being more respectful here. You know, the guy who doesn't think you'll be tortured for all eternity?

Just my thoughts on the matter. Jesus Christ.

You know I don't happen to believe in the Islamic faith or Buddha etc, but I have enough respect for them not to use their God's name in a way that offends them.  It is called respect.

You have a right to believe what you want, but just be a little more respectful to those who have different beliefs. By the way your definition of God is so way off.  Anyway, I don't want to get into a flame war, I am just asking for a little respect. Not so hard actually.

I could not care less, actually. I'll keep using Jesus as a pejorative, so............. you can deal with that or you can whine about it every time someone says it. Balls in your court.

That's if JC was even real. :O

.Actually there is quite a lot of secular evidence that He did exist, Google is your friend there.

You both have fair points and shortcomings in your arguments.

Confusedsaffa, Isa bin Maryam (Jesus) was a Great Prophet and I have the utmost respect for him. That said, his status has already been decreed by God. Us mortals can't do or say a thing to change the status of any of God's Prophets. There's absolutely no point in defending Christ's honour from mere words.

CO2, You have every right to express your views. That said, there comes a point when it's not about expressing views, but rather taking joy in pushing people's buttons. Confused shouldn't be so sensitive, I agree, but you're not really articulating how being disrespectful to another's Faith is some kind of necessity to your beliefs (unless you're really just trying to be a massive assh*le).
Going off what Confused said, you could be the best Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist or Atheist while respecting the beliefs of others. It's not an issue of Religion, CO2, it's a simple issue of etiquette. 

CO2, You have every right to express your views. That said, there comes a point when it's not about expressing views, but rather taking joy in pushing people's buttons.

I'm not saying anything about Jesus Christ, the man.

I'm using it the way people have been using forever. "Holy shit!" "What the hell!" "Jesus Christ!"

If it offends someone, then so be it. I don't care. It's like when someone stubs their toe and they say fukk and instead of asking how their toe is, they say "Language!"

You're religious? Go nuts. Doesn't matter to me (although, I will debate the merits of different religions if asked. Always fun to debate, I'm no stranger to that).

But I'm not here to make sure you're comfortable. Confused came in here knowing that "JC" is an exclamation of surprise/annoyance and became super-pedantic about it. "ACKSHUALLY, HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT."

It'd be like me telling someone to "F off" and them replying with the fact that they're chaste and don't do that kind of thing. It's being pedantic.

what in christ's name is going on here

.Actually there is quite a lot of secular evidence that He did exist, Google is your friend there.

I tend to disagree. And googling for evidence says: There is no evidence he actually existed.
Chances are, there was a guy named Jesus who existed in that time period but, can you show me tangible proof that he truly was the son of god, that he actually performed miracles, etc. 'cause ATM, google is proving the opposite of what you are claiming.

I tend to disagree. And googling for evidence says: There is no evidence he actually existed.
Chances are, there was a guy named Jesus who existed in that time period but, can you show me tangible proof that he truly was the son of god, that he actually performed miracles, etc. 'cause ATM, google is proving the opposite of what you are claiming.

Yeah, the fact that there was a Jesus walking around and talking to people would say nothing of his being born of a virgin, or that he healed the sick with his palm, or that he was the son of god. None of that is proven, nor CAN it be proven.

We have records of taxes and what King's names were and their policies in written history and we believe them to be true because they're not incredible claims. If I see tax forms from Babylon and they say "The local tax collector got 5 gold pieces from Mr. X on June 28th," I'm inclined to beleieve it because it's so low stakes. And we STILL collect taxes to this day and write down how much.

With Jesus we're being asked to believe the extraordinary. And none of these events are replicable, nor have they happened since.

I'll grant you that it would possible to track the pregnancy of the woman Mary who's mentioned about three times in the Bible and to show there was no male intervention in her life at all but yet she delivered herself of a healthy baby boy. I can say— I don't say that's impossible. Parthenogenesis is not completely unthinkable. It does not prove that his paternity is divine and it wouldn't prove that any of his moral teachings were thereby correct. Nor, if I was to see him executed one day and see him walking the streets the next, would that show that his father was God or his mother was a virgin or that his teachings were true, especially given the commonplace nature of resurrection at that time and place. After all, Lazarus was raised, never said a word about it. The was raised, didn't say a thing about what she'd been through. And the Gospels tell us that at the time of the crucifixion all the graves in Jerusalem opened and their occupants wandered around the streets to greet people. So it seems resurrection was something of a banality at the time. Not all of those people clearly were divinely conceived. So I'll give you all the miracles and you'll still be left exactly where you are now, holding an empty sack.

Hitchens is a smart, well-spoken man and I agree with him, I don't worship the man.

I'll just point out, that while I am non-religious, I do believe that if the Jesus from the bible was an actual person that was the son of god etc. That he does have my respect. I was raised on that religion but, once I started questioning stuff about the bible, the priests at the church my family went to started getting really angry since I didn't buy into it. I went to a few other churches and got the same deal.
And knowing it probably started off good (teachings about helping others and being kind) has devolved into brain washing and control. Obviously, not all churches and stuff are like that, but most of the ones I have been too, and people I have met from others, have been more closed minded, and hate things they are told to hate because of it <- again, not all are like that, but those kinds have been the majority of my experiences.

I do my best to follow the core principles of what I was taught during my time there, being nice to others and stuff, and I respect people's right to believe whatever as long as it doesn't harm / cause hate towards others. But, organized religion is definitely not for me.

.   I'll just point out, that while I am non-religious, I do believe that if the Jesus from the bible was an actual person that was the son of god etc. That he does have my respect. 

Yeah it wouldn't be a smart move to diss someone you actually knew was the son of God

Yeah it wouldn't be a smart move to diss someone you actually knew was the son of God

Thanks, Stoat. hahaha, I thought the same thing.

  "I have incontrovertible proof that I am God."

  GET OUTTA HERE, YOU PHONEY.

Love you, Kayos, but that sentence is pretty funny. 

I'm not saying anything about Jesus Christ, the man.

I'm using it the way people have been using forever. "Holy shit!" "What the hell!" "Jesus Christ!"

It'd be like me telling someone to "F off" and them replying with the fact that they're chaste and don't do that kind of thing. It's being pedantic.

Let's say you're invited to a friend/colleagues wedding at a mosque/church/synagogue. What's stopping you from saying "J F*ing C" around that audience and at that venue?