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  • fka
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12680 on: November 12, 2020, 11:21:40 am »
It’s almost always used pejoratively as well, and it’s pretty clear what people are really trying to say when they use the word, which is probably how its use is justified in describing obviously not 시골 areas (or worse, 깡촌!). It annoys me when people (read: my wife!) describe entire states — like say, Wisconsin — as “rural”. Milwaukee is not huge by any means, but it’s obviously not cow pastures either, even if they’re never very far.

I've wondered about this for a while. One of those Korean mysteries I've never cracked. I think Koreans also use it to (perjoratively) describe areas with older, low-rise buildings. I once spoke to a woman who described Yeonnam-dong as "too countryside" and wrinkled her nose, despite the fact that it's literally adjacent to Hongdae. But it has lots of red-brick buildings and few giant apartment complexes.


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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12681 on: November 12, 2020, 11:22:01 am »
Hmmm. How to put this in a way that you hedonistic, slothful, frivolous, superficial, layabout city-slickers would understand?

Ah! If you walk down your driveway from your doorstep to the street and your cup of Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie Iced Vanilla Double-Shot Gingerbread Frappuccino Extra Hot With Foam Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended is no longer warm, then you probably live in a rural area.
ah ok. thanks for explaining in plain english this time


  • OnNut81
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12682 on: November 12, 2020, 11:26:48 am »
I'm guessing anyone who lives in Seoul and tries to look down on some Gyeonggi satellite city like Anyang is from a hick town or deep 'burbs back in their home country.  They're trying to adopt the big city airs they were envious of back home.  Seoul, although interesting in parts, is not a huge wow factor big city.  A lot of Seoul is completely interchangeable with places in Anyang, Seongnam, or Ilsan for example.  Looking down on Suwon, I get, but I always get a kick out of foreigners that live in HBC thinking they are in some chic and sophisticated hipster enclave like Williamsburg in Brooklyn.  A friend lived in some sub-standard apartment for a couple of years and I enjoyed popping up there and getting some food with him, but was always happy I didn't live there.  As long as I'm on the subway line I am happy.  No desire to live in Seoul. 


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12683 on: November 12, 2020, 11:52:20 am »
as someone from the enlightened, bustling, privileged northeast... that's not obvious

The DNC 2020 was going to be our one chance to finally prove ourselves worthy to you sophisticates and we BLEW IT!  :cry:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12684 on: November 12, 2020, 12:03:40 pm »
I went to Anyang once and thought it the definition of urban hell.

All the traffic and distance of a big city and none of the benefits that justify tolerating uber-urban life.

Of course, I'm a small city kind of guy.

I prefer places far away rather than satellite spraw Gyeonggi cities.

Of Korean cities...

1. Busan
2. Jeju City
3. Jinju
4. Jeonju
5. Suncheon
6. Changwon
7. Chuncheon
8. Yeosu
9. Pohang

That said, i have spent my years here living in "towns", as i'd define them, places smaller, more chill, easier to commute, and not far from city shopping for the weekend.

Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong, Seogwipo, Geochang.

My blind spots: I somehow have never been to Ulsan or downtown Incheon (just the airport). They are on my bucket list, along with Cheongju and Naju.






  • Kayos
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12685 on: November 12, 2020, 12:06:11 pm »
Bots bought all, or the majority, of the day 1 PS5s D:


  • fka
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12686 on: November 12, 2020, 12:16:40 pm »
Seoul and Busan justify the annoyances of urban life. Smaller Korean cities are (generally) interchangeable, lacking in interesting culture, food, architecture, social opportunities, etc. They do, however, provide plenty of air pollution, outrageous driving, rude and pushy citizens, crowded transit and littered streets. Never again for me.


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    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12687 on: November 12, 2020, 12:17:49 pm »
I'm guessing anyone who lives in Seoul and tries to look down on some Gyeonggi satellite city like Anyang is from a hick town or deep 'burbs back in their home country.  They're trying to adopt the big city airs they were envious of back home.  Seoul, although interesting in parts, is not a huge wow factor big city.  A lot of Seoul is completely interchangeable with places in Anyang, Seongnam, or Ilsan for example.  Looking down on Suwon, I get, but I always get a kick out of foreigners that live in HBC thinking they are in some chic and sophisticated hipster enclave like Williamsburg in Brooklyn.  A friend lived in some sub-standard apartment for a couple of years and I enjoyed popping up there and getting some food with him, but was always happy I didn't live there.  As long as I'm on the subway line I am happy.  No desire to live in Seoul. 

Most of the views you read online seem to be extolling the virtues of Anyang, Suwon, Bundang et al as superior to central Seoul. It's comparatively rare to see someone write a paragraph about how it's much better to live in Gangnam or Itaewon.


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12688 on: November 12, 2020, 12:18:31 pm »
The DNC 2020 was going to be our one chance to finally prove ourselves worthy to you sophisticates and we BLEW IT!  :cry:
and you blew it... go milk a milkwaukee cow so i can have so cereal

Bots bought all, or the majority, of the day 1 PS5s D:
same with most of the recent graphics cards releases ㅠㅠ
more gg more skill


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    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12689 on: November 12, 2020, 12:26:30 pm »
Seoul and Busan justify the annoyances of urban life. Smaller Korean cities are (generally) interchangeable, lacking in interesting culture, food, architecture, social opportunities, etc. They do, however, provide plenty of air pollution, outrageous driving, rude and pushy citizens, crowded transit and littered streets. Never again for me.

Yeah, personally I've always been a small town guy myself. My college town was a bit of a shithole but me and my friends had a few hangout spots and it was nice going to Hy-Vee and having a pretty good chance of running into a friend or co-worker. There are definitely some benefits to city life (especially for people who are big into nightlife and stuff like that) but frankly I'd rather live out in the sticks and maybe take a weekend trip to Seoul every once in a while.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12690 on: November 12, 2020, 12:29:06 pm »
Bots bought all, or the majority, of the day 1 PS5s D:

Yeah, didn't expect anything less.

This year's been crazy. I wanted an RTX 3080 to build a new PC, sold out everywhere. 6800XT looks like it's going to sell out too.
Ryzen 5 CPUs all sold out. PS5's all sold out.

I'm not watching unboxing videos or anything. I'm pretty sure we'll be able to get something new to game on for the holidays.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12691 on: November 12, 2020, 12:32:24 pm »
same with most of the recent graphics cards releases ㅠㅠ

Bit of a blessing though. 3080 is completely sold out and going by AMD's reluctance to give a straight answer, I'm betting that their ray-tracing performance isn't on the level as Nvidia's. Looks like I'll be waiting for the 3080ti in January.


  • Kayos
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12692 on: November 12, 2020, 12:40:47 pm »
Yeah, didn't expect anything less.

This year's been crazy. I wanted an RTX 3080 to build a new PC, sold out everywhere. 6800XT looks like it's going to sell out too.
Ryzen 5 CPUs all sold out. PS5's all sold out.

I'm not watching unboxing videos or anything. I'm pretty sure we'll be able to get something new to game on for the holidays.

Yeah haha. I'd never had a new console on day 1 before though, so was hoping to grab the ps5 today haha.
Though, I'm hoping I'll have it in my hands before January. I want to get Bugsnax for free from the ps+ haha.

Yeah, I'll also be looking to build a new PC in January. Since I can't really travel, I was gunna upgrade my PC then instead.
Hopefully by then the gfx cards will be back in stock :D (and cheaper)

Did you end up upgrading your PC yet?


  • tylerthegloob
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12693 on: November 12, 2020, 12:43:23 pm »
more gg more skill


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12694 on: November 12, 2020, 12:45:18 pm »
Yeah, personally I've always been a small town guy myself... There are definitely some benefits to city life (especially for people who are big into nightlife and stuff like that) but frankly I'd rather live out in the sticks and maybe take a weekend trip to Seoul every once in a while.
Indeed.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12695 on: November 12, 2020, 12:50:23 pm »
Seoul and Busan justify the annoyances of urban life. Smaller Korean cities are (generally) interchangeable, lacking in interesting culture, food, architecture, social opportunities, etc. They do, however, provide plenty of air pollution, outrageous driving, rude and pushy citizens, crowded transit and littered streets. Never again for me.
By smaller cities if you mean in Gyeonggi province around Seoul, then yeah, I agree. Urban sprawl and satellite communities suuuck!

But there are unique nice benefits to smaller cities like Chuncheon, Pohang, Yeosu, Jeju City, Jeonju.... to name five cities i've visited multiple times and would GLADLY work in!


  • OnNut81
  • The Legend

    • 2012

    • April 01, 2011, 03:01:41 pm
    • Anyang
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12696 on: November 12, 2020, 01:25:38 pm »
I went to Anyang once and thought it the definition of urban hell.

All the traffic and distance of a big city and none of the benefits that justify tolerating uber-urban life.

My blind spots: I somehow have never been to Ulsan or downtown Incheon (just the airport). They are on my bucket list, along with Cheongju and Naju.


For me, I need a specific reason to go to Seoul.  Haircut or some food.  It's got some interesting areas for sure (north of the Han) but there's not enough of a draw that keeps me going back.  It's busy enough down in the Anyang et al region. 

If you didn't like Anyang I don't think downtown Incheon would be of much interest.  If downtown were to be considered the built up area around Incheon bus terminal and going towards either the baseball stadium or City Hall.  Exact kind of area you can find throughout Korea.  However, going out to Incheon station is pretty cool.  You can visit the tacky Wolmido boardwalk area which I think is Korea's answer to  Coney Island or the Jersey boardwalks.  Then going past the largely uninteresting Chinatown you come to a cool area that looks like nowhere else I've seen in this country.  You can see these lovely old buildings from the colonial period like the First Bank of Japan and first post office or something.  in the same area there are these older two storey buildings that are on a closed pedestrian street and are used as galleries.  It was all free and I wandered into one place that was showing nothing but North Korean propaganda materials and another that was some amateur photographer and his photos from B.C. and Alberta.  Keep walking and you feel like you've come into the downtown of a mid-sized Korean city.  It's busy and must cater to sailors with the its shopping and nightlife spots.  Finally, there is an area that has been made up like something from a children's Christmas movie.  It's just part of the city but it has a year round winter motif going.  The rest of Incheon doesn't stand out, unless you're in Songdo which I have mixed feelings about. 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12697 on: November 12, 2020, 01:33:50 pm »
you come to a cool area that looks like nowhere else I've seen in this country.  You can see these lovely old buildings from the colonial period like the First Bank of Japan and first post office or something. 

I stumbled across this and I couldn't believe what was happening. So cool there.
ETA 2day 4hour 45min to next reboot.
DO NOT UNPLUG


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12698 on: November 12, 2020, 01:59:10 pm »
... You can visit the tacky Wolmido boardwalk area which I think is Korea's answer to  Coney Island or the Jersey boardwalks.  Then going past the largely uninteresting Chinatown you come to a cool area that looks like nowhere else I've seen in this country.  You can see these lovely old buildings from the colonial period like the First Bank of Japan and first post office or something.  in the same area there are these older two storey buildings that are on a closed pedestrian street and are used as galleries.  It was all free and I wandered into one place that was showing nothing but North Korean propaganda materials and another that was some amateur photographer and his photos from B.C. and Alberta.  Keep walking and you feel like you've come into the downtown of a mid-sized Korean city.  It's busy and must cater to sailors with the its shopping and nightlife spots.  Finally, there is an area that has been made up like something from a children's Christmas movie.  It's just part of the city but it has a year round winter motif going.
Thanks for that.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12699 on: November 12, 2020, 07:38:14 pm »
Though, I'm hoping I'll have it in my hands before January. I want to get Bugsnax for free from the ps+ haha.

In case you didn't know, you can add free ps+ games to your account for all the Sony consoles remotely when you log in through your browser. I tested it just now and was able to add bugsnax to my library for when I get a PS5.