RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

I tried that "Twix Top" and it is not good.

I agree. A few people told me it was way better than ordinary Twix, so I tried it, and it was like eating sweet cardboard. Sure, it's not as sweet as regular Twix, but that doesn't suddenly make it better.

Cookie should have been more buttery, chocolate should have been dark, caramel should have been caramel and not glue. THEN it could have been good.

Yeah the Twix Top is edible at best. Definitely not something I'll be picking up again.

So, today my 12-year-old kid learned that a cell phone is not a suitable pry-bar for opening a stuck patio door.

So, today my 12-year-old kid learned that a cell phone is not a suitable pry-bar for opening a stuck patio door.

A valuable lesson!

A valuable lesson!

You spelled “expensive” wrong.

holy shit am i in don hobak's signature? and im in there with KYNDO? that's dope

congrats, you've done better!

holy shit am i in don hobak's signature? and im in there with KYNDO? that's dope

Now imagine how I feel! 

congrats, you've done better!

You could have made the cut too had you just been a little more encouraging to our pal Martin.

holy shit am i in don hobak's signature? and im in there with KYNDO? that's dope

It wasn’t meant to be permanent but now that you’ve drawn attention to it I’ll look like a jerk if I remove it.  But the fact that you posted your comment in the Venting thread makes me dubious of your comment’s sincerity  That and you’re a little too excited to join the likes of Kyndo 

in my excitement, i ignored the spirit of the thread (apologies kyndo)

i've got this kid in my after-school class with literally 0 redeeming qualities. he honestly ruins every class, and has done for months.

today he was already pissing me off by interrupting me, then he started rubbing hand sanitiser on these cardboard dividers we have between the desks. then, about a minute after i told him off, he looked me straight in the eye, and threw some trash over his shoulder onto the floor

i've never gone so apeshit at a kid before. i'm honestly done with him. the manager won't kick him out the class, so i think i'm going to move his desk facing the corner of the room and he can sit there in silence, facing the wall, for the next 3 months (or until he quits). **** it

i've never gone so apeshit at a kid before.

Deets?

Yeah just yelling at him like a nutter. Cathartic though. Also deserved. God, out of the thousands of kids I've taught over 9 years, he may be the worst

Yeah just yelling at him like a nutter. Cathartic though. Also deserved. God, out of the thousands of kids I've taught over 9 years, he may be the worst

It's always said that there are no bad kids, only bad parents. I kind of agree with that but while that may be the case, when you're teaching dozens or hundreds of different students a week, you don't have the time or patience to teach a single kid manners or make accommodations for them when they're acting like a little shit.

My only critique of your approach is that the little bastard is going to take this whole thing as a game. He's going to take it as a challenge to find a way to disrupt your lesson, while sitting in the corner; playing drums on his desk, throwing things etc.

Personally, I'd remind your director that you're only able to teach English, not manners, and if he keeps distributing your lesson, your other students will complain to their parents and they might move to a different hagwon. Better he kicks the little shit out and lose 1 liability as opposed to losing several paying students.

Well I work at a private elementary school. This is the after school bit, so the parents pay extra, but it's optional. My manager said "oh we've never kicked a kid out of the after program before". But the other teachers all agreed it's a mental policy and just makes so many more students drop out instead. I'll keep pushing it if he's bad. Worst comes to worst I'll drop him off at manager's office or HR teacher. Or just refuse to let him in my classroom altogether. I don't care. I'm not putting up with this shit every day for the next 3 months. Life is too short.

But yes, I know he'll start thinking of it as a game, but 3 months of being patient and trying to reason with him, I finally gave up/exploded.

Some kids are objectively terrible. Some kids just can't be taught. Probably only the second kid in 9 years, but... Yep.

I remember being so fed up with a kid during my first year that I picked up his desk — with him in it — and placed it outside my classroom. Looking back I... probably wasn’t a very good teacher and could have handled it better, but maybe not. It’s kind of like berating the customer service representative over the phone. You take it out on them because they’re the ones presented to you, but they’re not the ones writing the corporate policy. Managers have to be responsive to their employees, and parents need to be responsive to their kids (I’m *guessing* it’s not the kid’s desire to be in that class). When they’re not, it’s hell for everyone.

Did you get the kid to crack at all, even for a moment?

yeah i made him cry today by berating him. but then 10 minutes later he acts like it didn't happen and is as happy as larry (and being an annoying shit again). i wonder if he has some kind of undiagnosed condition. but that's not my job to find out - all i want to do is teach my class, which he stops me from doing....every few minutes, every single day

but yes, what am i supposed to do? all the other students are suffering from him being there. feels like the parents/manager/school don't care and that it's my job to just "deal with it". mental

yeah i made him cry today by berating him. but then 10 minutes later he acts like it didn't happen and is as happy as larry (and being an annoying shit again). i wonder if he has some kind of undiagnosed condition. but that's not my job to find out - all i want to do is teach my class, which he stops me from doing....every few minutes, every single day

but yes, what am i supposed to do? all the other students are suffering from him being there. feels like the parents/manager/school don't care and that it's my job to just "deal with it". mental

Either a condition or he's learned that crying is his trump card and he'll always get his way once he turns on the faucet.  You're describing the patron saint of spoilt brats.

I suppose just not allowing him in as an option, but again. You're probably going to find that he's going to start knocking on the door, turning off the lights etc. he seems to thrive on attention. The other issue is that it's against the law to not allow a student into the class or kick them out, apparently, you're robbing them of the opportunity to receive an education. Ridiculous, I know, but there's a chance your manager might simply choose to ignore it, under the circumstances, and do nothing if you don't allow him in. If he does throw the book at you, you could simply feign ignorance so nothing to lose with giving it a shot. Give the kid a wordsearch or worksheet to complete while he's outside, so you can at least say you've given him work to do.

If the kid complains that you wont let him in again, you're bringing to attention a situation that your management is trying to sweep under the rug and putting pressure on them to do something.

I've never had students this bad, but when I do get some really bad attention seekers who constantly interrupt the lesson I'll tell them to stand in front of the class, while I sit down near the students. I'll then tell him (it's always a boy) that since he wants the classes attention he now has it and he can say whatever he feels is so important. I'll stress the point by instructing the class to pay close attention to the student in question... the kid will usually try to say something funny and act the fool for a few seconds and then try to sit down, but I wont let him. I'll make him stand there until he feels really awkward and stupid in front of the whole class. After a minute of standing in front of the class while every student stares at him in silence, not amused, the kid breaks and they sit down feeling pretty embarrassed (or at least appearing so).

It's pretty mean, but I save it for the rare occasions that you get a really annoying attention seeker.
 

The other issue is that it's against the law to not allow a student into the class or kick them out, apparently, you're robbing them of the opportunity to receive an education.
 

well the whole point is it's an after-school class - extra-curricular - not a compulsory one. by not letting him in i just meant dump him with the manager/HR teacher. and i refuse to give him anything fun like a word search because it's 1) extra work for me and 2) unfair on the students who have to study

i've tried similar techniques to what you've said but it doesn't seem to change much. momentary embarrassment but then 15 minutes later, back to normal (ie being a little dickhead). it is weird.

Why are comments on a job posting thread deleted when they are legitimately critical of the job offered?  There is a job up now that is below standard in pay, but the poster tried to couch it in terms that justified the low wage.  People called him on it, and I see now that the multiple comments have been deleted and the ad still stands.  So, is the position now taken by waygook that unsuspecting, inexperienced applicants can be taken advantage of because legitimate critiques exposing the flaws will be summarily deleted?  It would be good to have some clarification on this so people don't waste their time.  Seems like a benefit of having jobs posted here would be that more experienced players could help people out. 

yes this point has been brought up many times before. often, when i post something like you have above, that post would also get deleted